SacconeJolys #66 Because of the ugly green coat, we have to exploit our child to stay afloat

[Just-opinion]

Welcome all and congratulations to amyrebecca for the thread suggestion!

Quickest recap I've ever done because this is seriously all that's happened to fill up a thread

-Jonathan has outed Eduardo as transgender and is now clickbaiting it like they've had a new baby (announcement video, Anna did a "how I feel" video, they released a lantern for Eduardo saying goodbye to that name and their next video will be a new name reveal). Eduardo seems less excited about now being able to identify "as his true self" and more excited about getting a party dedicated to the name reveal.

If we could just use pronouns as we individually see fit and not question why someone else is using different pronouns for Eduardo that'd be great. We don't know what is real, what is pushed by Jono and what is being featured for clicks.

 

[SnowBird]

Also...don't forget... he is throwing around that Emila is having mental health issues...and the kids having no life in Covid lockdowns...No holidays and hotels!! Excuse me?? The world, and all it's people have mental problems to some sort of degree (How could we not?) from the last two years with what has happened...Read lately about all the lies we've all been told?? Mental Health has come up in the news daily, so he has to use that one as well, as a future storyline for his older daughter...waiting to see what else he comes up with for the "Babies"... Not babies!!....These two Nutbars need to get a life before they totally ruin their family....( They won't ) To bad it's all about the money, and how much they can make...you are training your kids to be circus monkeys, while you crack the whip Jonathan...Anna being a witch with that cackle tells me allot about her...she is exactly what she portrays...( I'd love to pinch her.... just one good one, on the end of her boobs that hang out all the time, and hope it hurts like hell, just like she does to her kids arms ) I hope your kids grow up to know just exactly what you have done to them...Such a sad existence....and it's only going to get worse, unless this dog and pony show is stopped...

 

[Eileen_2019]

The last video is worrying for many reasons, but especially since Eduardo seems to have no clue what is going on.
The kid did not know about the witch story Jonathan refers to 'you used to tell us that a witch turned you from a girl into a boy'.
Eduardo did not know what the 'beautiful new name' was, but when prompted managed to say that it was shorter, and easier to spell, and that was somehow the most important thing.
Seemed more interested in a cake with the new name and balloons for the actual 'new name reveal' video.
When asked 'when did you know you were a girl', mentioned that mum 'and somebody else' asked the question. And then talked more about dressing up clothes and doing videos with dad.
The line at the end, thanking 'Eduardo for looking after me, but I am now ready to move on to my new self' was obviously thought up by daddy dearest.

Now, I don't claim to know everything there is to know about being transgender, but if this video was meant to convince the audience that Eduardo is a transgender girl..... it failed. We finally heard from Eduardo, for the first time since August when he said he's a boy, and only wants to dress up as a girl so he can twirl in the sparkly dresses, and it seems that that hasn't changed.

 

[Nutsymom]

Father - Non binary
2nd child- trans.
The mother figure has a new identity - hobosexual. Because she is too lazy to move out with her children and actually work for a job.

 

[HilaryC]

If Eduardo had grown up with a big brother instead of Emilia, would they be in this situation now? Say he was exposed and played more with “traditional boy toys” than Emilia’s princesses and dresses. From a toddler Eduardo always wanted to be with and around Emilia and mimic what she did because she got SO MUCH attention from her parents. Maybe if he thought he was more like her he would get attention to? Then the other two kids came along and he’s a middle child lost in between star Emilia and the newest youngest content for his parents to vlog. This poor kid is going to need years of therapy to undue what Anna and Jonathan have done to him (and not done for him).

 

[Eileen_2019]

Oh, and about Emilia's supposed depression during lockdown.....

Maybe if the family had actually taken the opportunity to do some activities instead of staying literally at home, indoors, all day every day...... They have a huge garden, they have local parks they could have gone to for daily exercise. They could have learned about the wildlife in their garden, they could have had sports day -type activities every day, done arts and crafts, learned new skills.
There was opportunty to teach their dogs some cool tricks, have some one-on-one time with all 4 kids, go for daily walks and discover what's around them.

Instead, dad was busy 'writing his book' and doing daily Tiktoks with Eduardo, mum tried to homeschool but failed, and the only time the kids got out the door was when the nanny took all four of them out. The kids kept hearing their parents complain about all of them being at home, and Emilia was often told to look after her younger siblings. On top of that, mum regularly 'forgot' her lamda lessons, and the piano lessons with mum turned out to be a disaster. So yeah, I can imagine that lockdown was not all that great for the SJ kids.

But to say their 9 year old was/is depressed....?

 

[JustSad123]

So I found tattle the day the dipstick got that fugly domdie tattoo. I googled it to see if it stood for anything and a tattle thread was the first result. I promised myself that I wouldn’t make an account but that changed very quickly today, 3.08 mins into the latest offering.

Who in the hell taught E2 the ahegao face?

Not only is it incredibly racist it’s also linked to child pornography.

If it was Jonathan, he needs to be arrested and every hard drive he has ever owned thoroughly checked over immediately.

Every little indiscretion is starting to add up, he has to be catering to an unsavoury audience as a side gig.

 

[five_cats]

I think they did do a lot of different activities during lockdown, WHICH YOU SHOULD"VE CONTINUED TO DO FOR FUN AND FOR CONTENT YOU STUPID ASS I AM TALKING TO YOU JONATHAN!!!!

I hope Emilia is actually learning stuff as it seems like the stuff on her computer is not something obviously from Jonathan. Reminds me of me, always seeking out how to do things and learn new things. Will be better for her to do that and she will be fine if she doesn't get tramatized.

Apart from a mental issue or being seriously dumb i can't really understand jeopardizing your whole brand and livelyhood for something that could get lots of views, etc but is so risky instead of playing it safe and doing popular trends. I mean the kids love Pringles. How about a "We tried every Pringle flavor we can find!" video like the other YouTubers do and I am sure it will get more views than the trans stuff. Like I don't get it

 

[Lunarly]

How can you report someone to social services? Do you have to live in the same area!
does anyone know any social workers who have online accounts giving advice etc I would love to hear a professionals perspective on these videos and the words that Jonathan and Eduardo use.

 

[Jellybb]

How have I only come across these lunatics now!? omg

 

[Eileen_2019]

How have I only come across these lunatics now!? omg

Because they are nowhere near as famous as they think they are.

 

[Jellybb]

Because they are nowhere near as famous as they think they are.

I figured! Just seen them featured on some documentary and saw the thread! I’ve a lot of catching up to do on these threads his Instagram page is absolutely nuts they are hands down, the biggest weirdoes I have ever come across!

 

[Margo_Channing]

Thought I'd check the comments on the latest money making scheme video and saw this....

 

[sunnysideup]

I caved and watched the latest video. It is so problematic. Eduardo associates being a girl with wearing dresses, having long hair and pierced ears?! You can do all of this and be a boy. This family have such a messed up way of understanding gender.

And for something as monumental as saying goodbye to his boy name, big sister is on on her computer and mum is in bed drinking cocoa?! Wtf.

And if Eduardo genuinely wants to be a girl then broadcasting his navigation of this on the internet for all to see is just so wrong. He doesn’t understand the implications. When he is talking about having babies he sounds so young. He doesn’t know what it will really mean.

Jonathan needs to be stopped. Eduardo needs help and time to explore his identity and work out who he is, girl, boy, whatever. If my daughter was expressing that she felt like she wanted to be a boy I would be getting appropriate help and support, making sure I was doing my best to support her. Not putting her private life all over YouTube!

 

[d100000]

Thought I'd check the comments on the latest money making scheme video and saw this....
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He’s deleting comments or someone is pretty quick! I used to be a huge fan.. then jonathan behaviour took a weird turn and my mum turned to me and said after the Stacey Dooley episode there’s something not right with him! I just commented how sick I think he is.. not getting into the trans argument I’m a big supporter of the LGBTQIA comunity and think there’s some amazing trans representatives out there! HOWEVER this isn’t that this him being a complete sick twisted bastard! He’s doing it for gain and publicity it makes me feel I’ll I don’t truly believe this Eduardo’s choice at all and they should get him to talk to counsellor and seek help without Jonathan being there! It won’t happen because he can’t control every word then but Eduardo looks abused and sick! And not happy anymore it’s sad very sad! My comment was gone in less the 5mins flat

 

[MattB]

From the video it seems clear to me that Eduardo is not definitely Transgender. It appears that he is going through normal developmental stages albeit these are being destroyed for money by his evil father. Now I may be wrong but that is what I gained from the video.

 

[Zoombeeni2245]

How
Is this not child exploitation?

 

[Vee6]

Eduardo did not know what the 'beautiful new name' was, but when prompted managed to say that it was shorter, and easier to spell, and that was somehow the most important thing.

Trying to think of a silver lining to cope with it

 

[JS12350]

There were so many red flags in one video that someone kindly picked up on in the last thread. Here’s what I also noticed that were strange and also agrees with the other person’s comment in the last thread

1. E2 not knowing her new name properly
2. No Anna in the videos (sat upstairs drinking hot chocolate instead of actually joining in with a very important event.
3. A1 and A2 having no idea and just seem confused
4. E2 associating trans with watching Frozen and dressing in Disney costumes. Can’t boys not like Disney princesses?
5. Jonathan associating girls with long hair, wearing dresses and having their ears pierced. What about Jason Momoa who has long hair or Kit Harington at one point with many others with long hair? There’s also plenty of boys who have their ears pierced
6. E1 would rather be on her computer than also join in with the big occasion
7. The witch comment, just inappropriate
8. Asking your 7 year old about their sexuality when they have plenty of years to decide. I had one “boyfriend” when I started school and that of course didn’t last and didn’t show interest in boys until high school, after.
9.The “I’m going to have kids and then throw my partner out and keep the kids” comment from E2
10. E2 showing more enthusiasm at the thought of having a party with cake than her actual gender identity.

 

[sweetbutsalty]

I'm going to give maybe a bit of a different perspective on this fiasco. I used to watch the sacconejolys fairly regularly for a few years from when Emilia was born until they whole cold shower incident. Up until then, my impression was always that Jonathan was pretty unintelligent, clueless, and rough around the edges, but loved his kids. He often seemed like he was doing the brunt of the care giving and just seemed to enjoy being a father.

I know a lot of people and also reaction videos have said that Anna looks like a hostage in the videos that she and Jono have done together but tbh I feel that Anna is the mastermind behind this whole thing. I think that she is much more savvy when it comes to trends, social media and is more fame hungry, whereas from the start I think Jonothan has wanted to make money to provide for his family and maybe to heal the wounds of his childhood eg. give his kids what he didnt have.

Now I am NOT saying he is innocent, but he seems like he is so clueless about so many things I really think Anna convinced him that they should "explore" Eduardo's feminine side, make money and then he would probably just grow out of it and they could say "turns out he actually is a boy!"

I think that Jonathan had some mental trauma in childhood that had him question himself and Anna saw this as an opportunity get more fame by playing the nonbinary and trans card at a very convenient time in social media. She was even so proud and laughing that SHE was the one who suggested to Jonathon that he is nonbinary, it seem like he didn't even know what that was.

When Anna does her own videos about this topic and others she is all bubbly and happy about it but when she does one with Johnathon it's like she's trying to make him look like a weirdo, rolling her yes, laughing at him, contradicting what he is saying.

She stopped posting to her own channel because she couldn't handle the negativity but is happy to parade her child for the world to tear apart.

Eduardo is named after her father and I personally don't feel that Jonathan would be pushing for a name change becuase thie would be a very sensitive subject given the death of her father. Plus Anna has often had tantrums or lost her tit at him when he would do something without reading her mind first, or if he was oblivious about it. I personally think Anna said I don't give an F, we'll change his name and later just go back to using his real name. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if they have told Eduardo that if he wants he can just do this temporarliy, it will be soooo fun, and later he can make a big video if he changes his mind with a big party to celebrate that as well.

I think Anna has always thought that Jonathan was beneath her, she has always said she is better looking, more intelligent and I think this is just another example of her being above him, sipping hot cocoa while he makes a fool out of himself.

Hey Anna! You picked him so who's really the idiot here?

On a sidenote: Does anyone know what ever happened to her sister Erika? Seems like she is not making anymore youtube videos.