I meant to say 18 or over at public gigs. It's all on record on his DVDs...Before this when on drugs I doubt whether he was so specific. I hope Chip Somers who treated him as an outpatient at Focus 12 will be called to testify at the trial.He's a manipulative b and I agree that he's trying to set the narrative, dismissing all his past behaviour re young girls he hoped were actually 16 or over and not jailbait. Of course he fell short of asking for their actual birth certificates and when on drugs may have been less selective and more aggressively "persuasive" to satiate his sex addiction.