I’ve been reading this thread with interest as I had a friend in high school who was obsessed with RB and ended up in Camden a lot of times, and she was only 14 at the time but looked a LOT older. I have been wondering if she’s ok as I’m pretty certain something may have happened as she suddenly never spoke about him again after one time she went to Camden.The Camden scene in general I mean, lots of men who liked to take advantage of woman who were drunk, high or both, lots of hangers ons with people like Amy Winehouse or Pete Doherty etc (whatever you think of them, the amount of people who would try to worm their way into getting close to them just because they thought they deserved it or were the best fans). There was a lot of sleeze, indie boy band wannabes who would go around pretending to be something they weren't just to get girls (or guys), which might sound like a common thing. It does happen everywhere yes, but Camden was where we all went for the obscure and weird and wonderful.
There was an influx of these people who didn't even know any indie bands and just went there to do this stuff (even spiking drinks) just because they wanted to say they'd been with someone alternative. Like it was for point scoring with their mates. Obviously there was Brand who had a massive entourage of woman and he was absolutely vile. He didn't care who knew it and he would actively encourage other guys to do the same, behave like he did towards woman. He disguised his behaviour as comedy or used his big words to deliberately confuse or make like he was joking
His fans lapped it up. Some of them were barely 16, which we tried to control. We tried to steer these girls away from him but some of those girls I don't think realised how horrific he was being.
Back then, there was a ladette culture going on too. If you can't beat them join them vibe. Or when girls would go along with male banter, which actually degraded woman, so they wouldn't be seen as not being able to take a joke. Brand absolutely zoned in on that. Same way he zoned in on younger fans who would be more vulnerable to him. But some of the girls were obsessed (I am in no way blaming them whatsoever, I simply mean it was harder to steer them away because they wanted to be around him so much). He made himself accessible to them deliberately. He was called the pied piper of Camden, but it would be a line of woman behind him. And so many men would copy his approach.
I cannot be a hypocrite about drug use at all, despite being clean now without relapse so far (15 years clean), drug use was absolutely rife. Camden is the place to go for drugs. It always has been. Back then they were absolutely flowing in a free for all. And nobody knew what they were cut with. Nobody cared either. Parties would go on for hours and afters carried on long into the following day. Then you'd go out that evening and carry on. People would barely come down before they went back out. And there would be scummy men who would do all kinds and blame the drugs, even though they didn't take much, if any, at all, so they could get away with their behaviour. Stuff like that went on so much back then.
So much was happening at the time there with music, comedy, entertainment, boosh, bands like libs, razor light etc. of course Amy, and obviously Brand, so much new talent was happening, fans would flock there and many would end up getting taken advantage of. I don't know, I have such fond memories of that time, I loved so much of my time there. But I cannot ignore the horrible stuff and awful things that happened either. Camden holds some of the best and worst times of my life and I know there are many, many others from that scene who feel the same.
Edited - sorry for how long this turned out to be, I didn't intend to write a damn novel.
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Did she mention him often before? Like she knew him well?
She did. It was all very bizarre. Even at the time, it was clear something wasn’t right from an outside point of view. But she was completely obsessed with him and would have done absolutely anything to spend time with him.
Copied from instagram.
This isn’t something to joke about but it now appears his reputation precedes him in the US.
This isn’t something to joke about but it now appears his reputation precedes him in the US.
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Is this the 'Global Defender of Freedom' award? Is that a joke meme or is Trump giving out awards to people who commit sexual assault? I'm so confused by the world today!
Hi Dotty,
I read this a a micky take.
If you get the connections on Instagram items making a fool out of Trump are commonplace. This post then makes a points about Trumps FIFA ‘peace prize’ and being blatant about Brand’s reputation.
If it helps, you are not alone in your confusion.
I read this a a micky take.
If you get the connections on Instagram items making a fool out of Trump are commonplace. This post then makes a points about Trumps FIFA ‘peace prize’ and being blatant about Brand’s reputation.
If it helps, you are not alone in your confusion.
Trump is one confused human being and this works for the MAGA cult's modus operandi.Is this the 'Global Defender of Freedom' award? Is that a joke meme or is Trump giving out awards to people who commit sexual assault? I'm so confused by the world today!
Let him loose on the media to ramble on and see what he comes up with. Control by speculation. If he wasn't the POTUS his rants would be met with eye rolls and indifference and his family would humour him and move on.
He looks so scrawny these days.
I think he'll turn up in a loincloth dragging a Crucifix.
Should be Westminster Magistrates court tomorrow? (I can't check, courtserve isn't recognising my user name.
whens he up then?Should be Westminster Magistrates court tomorrow? (I can't check, courtserve isn't recognising my user name.
(joke! he's a comedian, he'll get it, wont he..? )
BBC website says 20th January,so should be tomorrow.
Ta Frumpy. Gahhh, I bet he doesn't do his shirt up even if it snows.
Honestly you should write a book, this stuff is very interesting and you clearly have a very good handle on it. I was part of a similar scene in my youth, funny how these things tend to work, the fun starting, than the kids showing up, and the predators right in their heels.Edited - sorry for how long this turned out to be, I didn't intend to write a damn novel.
Not to derail the convo here, just wanted to say thanks for sharing all this, and congrats on your sobriety!
'Russell Brand appears in court this afternoon to face two new sexual offence charges involving two additional women.' See you here later tattlers!
