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I knew it! I absolutely knew it. Thank you.
No one who has read the play would refer to the vengeance of "Greek gods." And if she's ever read a single Greek tragedy, it's hard to be stunned by what happens in the end. I can easily think of worse outcomes . . .
She is incapable of reading and critically engaging with a text. That this has earned her such high marks does not bode well for the universities and people who have allowed this person to continue in her delusion.
I have literally caught Covid for a second time and was only half watching the video and I could see the dead fly shown at 8:42! How can she not see that while filming and editing?? Does it not even bother her??
I knew it! I absolutely knew it. Thank you.
No one who has read the play would refer to the vengeance of "Greek gods." And if she's ever read a single Greek tragedy, it's hard to be stunned by what happens in the end. I can easily think of worse outcomes . . .
She is incapable of reading and critically engaging with a text. That this has earned her such high marks does not bode well for the universities and people who have allowed this person to continue in her delusion.
It's such a short book too. Honestly kind of shocking that she can't even read it in its entirety and has to resort to SparkNotes.
In high school we spent the last year reading, translating and analyzing a play in Ancient Greek class and our teacher chose Bacchae for us, so I learnt it extensively and I had it memorized at one point. I think that if you read it as is, without in depth knowledge of Ancient Greek mythology and culture and without diving into critiques and commentary from scholars, it's pretty boring and a lot of it will go over your head. There are other plays that are better to read for fun.
It's such a short book too. Honestly kind of shocking that she can't even read it in its entirety and has to resort to SparkNotes.
In high school we spent the last year reading, translating and analyzing a play in Ancient Greek class and our teacher chose Bacchae for us, so I learnt it extensively and I had it memorized at one point. I think that if you read it as is, without in depth knowledge of Ancient Greek mythology and culture and without diving into critiques and commentary from scholars, it's pretty boring and a lot of it will go over your head. There are other plays that are better to read for fun.
I'm impressed you could translate The Bacchae in high school! It's difficult because of the vocabulary and Doric/Epic forms used in the choral portions. Amazing. I didn't take Greek until university, as my school didn't offer it. I did have a fantastic cultural studies teacher in high school, and we read The Bacchae in translation. We used an annotated version and she gave us a lot of background reading. All of this was part of a semester-long unit on Greek history and literature, and honestly, I doubt students would have understood it well without all of the accompaniments. I can't understand reading it without having acquired some of this context, but maybe that's just me.
I'm puzzled about Ruby's focus on Victorian girlhood but her utter silence on gender as it is portrayed in other literature. Some people scoff at gender studies, but themes of sex and gender play huge roles in ancient literature. The more you read about historically sex-segregated secret rituals, the more intense and eerie The Bacchae is. I can't look it up now bc I'm walking, but isn't this also one of the plays that allegedly caused riots or mass hysteria when performed in the modern period? Many such reports were probably exaggerated to get press for the play, but still . . .
her body looks twelve which is sad. I wouldn’t speculate on her fertility health though but she’s so thin for her age and her body type still looks pre-pubescent
I'm impressed you could translate The Bacchae in high school! It's difficult because of the vocabulary and Doric/Epic forms used in the choral portions. Amazing. I didn't take Greek until university, as my school didn't offer it. I did have a fantastic cultural studies teacher in high school, and we read The Bacchae in translation. We used an annotated version and she gave us a lot of background reading. All of this was part of a semester-long unit on Greek history and literature, and honestly, I doubt students would have understood it well without all of the accompaniments. I can't understand reading it without having acquired some of this context, but maybe that's just me.
The high school I went to in Italy focused on Latin and Greek (and the humanities in general), so when we approached Bacchae we had a 4 year background in Ancient Greek. Our version was also annotated but it was in the original Greek. We spent the year working on it and at our final high school exam (along with all the other subjects topics we could be tested on) the teacher opened the book at random and we had to translate and analyze whatever passage she landed on, without a vocabulary. It was quite difficult lol.
The high school I went to in Italy focused on Latin and Greek (and the humanities in general), so when we approached Bacchae we had a 4 year background in Ancient Greek. Our version was also annotated but it was in the original Greek. We spent the year working on it and at our final high school exam (along with all the other subjects topics we could be tested on) the teacher opened the book at random and we had to translate and analyze whatever passage she landed on, without a vocabulary. It was quite difficult lol.
This makes so much sense! (I didn't doubt you at all, was just impressed.) That method of quizzing at random was used by a Homer professor I had. Nerve-wracking - and I was a post-grad. You and your classmates were tough for getting through that! I hope you celebrated appropriately after that course ended.
I know that Italian and Greek high schools still prioritize Latin and Greek classics - but I didn't know that before talking to people from those countries. It's awesome that you had such a thorough classics education in high school - what an absolute dream that is! I'm so curious but I won't be too nosy. I'm sure you were all extremely talented students.
I think the opportunity to learn Latin or ancient Greek in high school should be more widely available in English-speaking countries, but sadly I don't see that happening anytime soon. German-speaking countries typically offer Latin at gymnasia but Greek is becoming rarer.
There's a fair few comments on the latest video asking what the deal is with the leather bag and leather letter case since she's vegan. One of her die-hard fans has leapt to Ruby's defence to proclaim that it's clearly all vegan leather and how dare any bullying trolls assume that she'd buy real leather.
Why assume, when 30 seconds of research will confirm that Beara Beara don't sell vegan leather bags. And if that's not good enough, you can have Ruby herself can confirm that it's leather (and gifted, too):
And a quick bit of Googling reveals that the letter organiser case is also leather:
So there's her leather case and this leather bag that she dug out of her closet to pretend to use, her black Doc Martens bag (they don't make a black vegan leather one), and the multiple pairs of Doc Martens that she herself confirmed are also leather:
Not to mention the regular trips to Five Guys, the beeswax lip balms, the pearl jewellery, the wool clothing, the Chanel No. 5, etc., etc..
Nobody would give a tit if she didn't make a perpetual habit out of proclaiming that OFFCWOARSE she's VARRY MOCH THE MOSTEST VEEEGAAANNN HYOO AVVER DECLOINED TYOO EAT AYY DOLPHIN SAMWICH.
I suppose that her so-called veganism isn't so much any of our business because it's not so much the central focus of her content (despite being a recurring theme). It seems to be just another part of her teenage persona she's afraid to change, despite almost being 25. She has changed things before. She never used to drink coffee and now she seems to like it. No problem with that, imo.
Problem is, getting into why she's no longer calling herself vegan would require her to get into why she called herself that in the first place, and why she kept it going so long.
One wonders/worries that the reason she keeps plant based is an eating disorder thing. Which, given evidence compiled by the good people of these threads, it seems to be. It would also explain the jumpers. People starving themselves get cold.
There's also the fact that "no longer vegan" backlash does tend to hit people HARD if they're not the right person to take it (like senyai grubs). It can get nasty out in those trenches.
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Lots of really nasty bullying, and the usual sort of jingoism, classism, ableism and xenophobia that you get in many books of that era. I say this as a huge fan and collector of 20th Century schoolgirl literature - Blyton’s books are terrible and aren’t good examples of the genre. I honestly believe that Ruby hasn’t really read the original Malory Towers books with any degree of scrutiny or an adult view-point, and is basing her ‘love’ of the books on the recent BBC children’s TV series which gives the impression that the dorms were decorated in Cath Kidston and the school was a happy place filled with happy pupils of all colours and abilities. It’s a total misrepresentation of Blyton’s books and it gives them a legitimacy that they don’t deserve. I am not a fan of Blyton and think that she and her books should be cancelled, not sanitised.
Not to get too far off topic, but any you'd recommend? More of the reading age of Blyton, as I've read an Angela Brazil one and it was a little bit juvenile for my taste (though ultimately very enjoyable).
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her body looks twelve which is sad. I wouldn’t speculate on her fertility health though but she’s so thin for her age and her body type still looks pre-pubescent
She lost a lot of weight over university (I was genuinely shocked when I picked her content back up after I finished, as I couldn't find time to watch it while I was there). Not saying anything though, I'm not her doctor.
This was always the most embarrassing thing about the "I read x number of books in one day!" readathon vlogs she used to do.
She intentionally chose a reading list that was unchallenging and would be easy to get through in a single day for someone with as much free time as her. She picked incredibly short children's books and picture books, she skim-read books, she chose books that she'd already read part of prior to the video, considered anthologies/essay collections finished if she'd read just one short story or essay.
But even with those shortcuts in her favour making it an incredibly easy feat, the entire thing was always faked anyway and obviously filmed across multiple days, with no sign that actually even read what little she claimed. I've never seen anyone so eager to proclaim their love of reading at every turn have so little interest in reading anything at all.
I’m surprised by the comment that she looks “so thin” in this thread. Don’t get me wrong, there have absolutely been points where she looked unwell. But recently, particularly her time at Oxford, I think she’s looked healthy (obviously EDs are not about how someone looks!).
But I do hope it’s a sign that she’s taking care of herself. I just hope she doesn’t slip into whatever unhealthy habits from before her Masters...including making any content that fits in with that narrative.
I’m surprised by the comment that she looks “so thin” in this thread. Don’t get me wrong, there have absolutely been points where she looked unwell. But recently, particularly her time at Oxford, I think she’s looked healthy (obviously EDs are not about how someone looks!).
But I do hope it’s a sign that she’s taking care of herself. I just hope she doesn’t slip into whatever unhealthy habits from before her Masters...including making any content that fits in with that narrative.
I agree, also I think she looks her age. She’s just petite and short, but she does look 24. I don’t think her body looks prepubescent…she was a lottt thinner in 2021 (in a concerning way)
Not to get too far off topic, but any you'd recommend? More of the reading age of Blyton, as I've read an Angela Brazil one and it was a little bit juvenile for my taste (though ultimately very enjoyable).
If you’re up for a looooooong series, then try the Chalet School. The series has its quirks and the books can be patchy, but the first dozen or so are classics of the genre. I can also highly recommend Antonia Forest’s Kingscote series (the first is Autumn Term). Again, they are of a certain period but they are good. For more ’family’ type school stories, Gwendoline Courtney. Her books are are harder to find but very enjoyable. For something more modern, Anne Digby’s Trebizon series. Some of Brazil’s books are better than others but if you don’t mind earlier school stories then Josephine Elder is widely regarded as one of the better authors. There are also lots of ‘grown up’ school stories - Furrowed Middlebrow has a fabulous list which you can find if you Google. Not all are easy to find but most are interesting.
I suppose that her so-called veganism isn't so much any of our business because it's not so much the central focus of her content (despite being a recurring theme). It seems to be just another part of her teenage persona she's afraid to change, despite almost being 25. She has changed things before. She never used to drink coffee and now she seems to like it. No problem with that, imo.
Problem is, getting into why she's no longer calling herself vegan would require her to get into why she called herself that in the first place, and why she kept it going so long.
One wonders/worries that the reason she keeps plant based is an eating disorder thing. Which, given evidence compiled by the good people of these threads, it seems to be. It would also explain the jumpers. People starving themselves get cold.
There's also the fact that "no longer vegan" backlash does tend to hit people HARD if they're not the right person to take it (like senyai grubs). It can get nasty out in those trenches.
I think this is one of the major drawbacks of her insistence on always having to be the most and the loudest about things she's only pretending to do.
There'd be a valid argument for her that it's nobody's business if she never talked about it. But instead she shoehorns mention of how SYO VARRY VEGAN she is into the majority of her content. Every vlog has a comment of some kind where she bemoans the lack of vegan options for her to buy or mentions that "OFFCWOARSE" she got the vegan option of whatever food she bought. She clearly wants people to think of veganism as a core part of her makeshift identity and make the natural assumption that OF COARSE if she does something, she'll be KEEPING IT VEGAN™ which leaves her wide open for questions and criticism when she clearly doesn't.
If she didn't insist on mentioning it constantly, I doubt anyone would realise or care and she'd be in a much better position to have simply phased veganism out on-camera if she wanted to. I don't doubt there's a toxic backlash to be expected for people who go from being vegan to jumping back on the meat/animal product train, but I think Ruby would've been largely insulated from that if she'd stopped talking about it, given how fervently her fanbase twist logic to defend anything she does.
Much like most of the personality traits and affectations she's stitched together to make up her online personality, she shouts a lot about how she's VARRY MOCH [BLANK] but shows the opposite, which puts a spotlight on the lie and underlines how fake her persona and her content is. It's the same with all the core elements of the "Ruby Granger" persona.
Sustainability, kindness, charity, productivity, curiosity, LAHRRNING FWORE LAHHRNING'S SAKE - she shouts about them all a lot, but then takes a blowtorch to the environment, advertises fast fashion every 5 minutes, pushes toxic, dangerous productivity ideals and habits onto children, bilks money from every charity she can, lies about all the VARRY PRODOCKTIVE WAAHRK she does and actively avoids doing any reading or learning of her own. She'd dilute much of the criticism if she learned to stop assigning herself personality labels and shouting from the rooftops about how she's the best at them.
Her pivot to being a coffee drinker seems just as fake. She often shows herself having to choke down coffee drinks or cuts away as soon as she takes a sip. It seems like another personality trait she fully adopted around the time she claimed to have become obsessed with Gilmore Girls (yet, no surprise, having watched the first episode at most while pretending to have watched it all) because she'd seem other people talk about Rory Gilmore and her eyes lit up that she had another gifted girl to imitate.
She also presumably saw on social media that coffee is stereotypically associated with get-up-and-go productive girlbosses and DARK MACADAMIA characters toiling away on essays through the night, fueled by coffee, so naturally she rushed to add it to the repertoire. And, again, it only got her in trouble; if she hadn't tossed another phony affectation onto the pile and been loudly insisting that she goes to PRAT two dozen times a day, she wouldn't have been dragged on social media for proudly supporting a boycotted brand.
Keeping a mostly vegan diet definitely seems like it's little more than a convenient excuse to restrict her eating. Beyond that, I don't think there's any real effort to maintain a vegan lifestyle other than for the camera.
I imagine she's also clinging desperately to the label because in her mind, it's yet another way she can pretend to be superior to others. It also vaguely fits the #BEKIND narrative she build for herself where she's just a gifted, conscientious widdle garl troiying tyoo be koind in a waahrl of bollies, which clearly couldn't be further from the truth.
I think this is one of the major drawbacks of her insistence on always having to be the most and the loudest about things she's only pretending to do.
There'd be a valid argument for her that it's nobody's business if she never talked about it. But instead she shoehorns mention of how SYO VARRY VEGAN she is into the majority of her content. Every vlog has a comment of some kind where she bemoans the lack of vegan options for her to buy or mentions that "OFFCWOARSE" she got the vegan option of whatever food she bought. She clearly wants people to think of veganism as a core part of her makeshift identity and make the natural assumption that OF COARSE if she does something, she'll be KEEPING IT VEGAN™ which leaves her wide open for questions and criticism when she clearly doesn't.
If she didn't insist on mentioning it constantly, I doubt anyone would realise or care and she'd be in a much better position to have simply phased veganism out on-camera if she wanted to. I don't doubt there's a toxic backlash to be expected for people who go from being vegan to jumping back on the meat/animal product train, but I think Ruby would've been largely insulated from that if she'd stopped talking about it, given how fervently her fanbase twist logic to defend anything she does.
Much like most of the personality traits and affectations she's stitched together to make up her online personality, she shouts a lot about how she's VARRY MOCH [BLANK] but shows the opposite, which puts a spotlight on the lie and underlines how fake her persona and her content is. It's the same with all the core elements of the "Ruby Granger" persona.
Sustainability, kindness, charity, productivity, curiosity, LAHRRNING FWORE LAHHRNING'S SAKE - she shouts about them all a lot, but then takes a blowtorch to the environment, advertises fast fashion every 5 minutes, pushes toxic, dangerous productivity ideals and habits onto children, bilks money from every charity she can, lies about all the VARRY PRODOCKTIVE WAAHRK she does and actively avoids doing any reading or learning of her own. She'd dilute much of the criticism if she learned to stop assigning herself personality labels and shouting from the rooftops about how she's the best at them.
Her pivot to being a coffee drinker seems just as fake. She often shows herself having to choke down coffee drinks or cuts away as soon as she takes a sip. It seems like another personality trait she fully adopted around the time she claimed to have become obsessed with Gilmore Girls (yet, no surprise, having watched the first episode at most while pretending to have watched it all) because she'd seem other people talk about Rory Gilmore and her eyes lit up that she had another gifted girl to imitate.
She also presumably saw on social media that coffee is stereotypically associated with get-up-and-go productive girlbosses and DARK MACADAMIA characters toiling away on essays through the night, fueled by coffee, so naturally she rushed to add it to the repertoire. And, again, it only got her in trouble; if she hadn't tossed another phony affectation onto the pile and been loudly insisting that she goes to PRAT two dozen times a day, she wouldn't have been dragged on social media for proudly supporting a boycotted brand.
Keeping a mostly vegan diet definitely seems like it's little more than a convenient excuse to restrict her eating. Beyond that, I don't think there's any real effort to maintain a vegan lifestyle other than for the camera.
I imagine she's also clinging desperately to the label because in her mind, it's yet another way she can pretend to be superior to others. It also vaguely fits the #BEKIND narrative she build for herself where she's just a gifted, conscientious widdle garl troiying tyoo be koind in a waahrl of bollies, which clearly couldn't be further from the truth.
The Rory Gilmore obsession is only here because she realised that Hermione was no longer that loved - especially after JKR problems- by the public, plus she was the young version of Hermione, not the grown up. So, Rory offers an alternative more of her age to exploit.
We saw her trying to love coffee, to visit some places in USA, to change her style a little bit... Still Granger, but with a Rory side.
Remember when Ruby did her stint at Emily Dickinson's home? You, too, can be an amazing writer (cough, cough) like Rubbish Granger! For several hundred dollars you can buy your ticket and pretend to be Emily Dickinson for an hour or two. Great for YouTube content. Just be careful where you point the camera since staff is watching you!!
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