”dedicated” coconut in round shape, how very unique
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A first in the UK is 70%, 60% is a 2:1 or Upper Second ClassThe fact that a first in the UK is 60%…. A first seems like the best grade right? In my country 60% is barely a pass
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A first is a 70 (pass/third 40, 2:2 50, 2:1 60, first 70) which is not necessarily a raw percentage as in some subjects it is curved to account for difficulty.The fact that a first in the UK is 60%…. A first seems like the best grade right? In my country 60% is barely a pass
The scale is adjusted so almost no-one gets over a 90 (for instance, for a dissertation you would have to write something original and genuinely publishable) very few get over an 80 (for a dissertation it would have to have some publishable qualities, but would require retooling and further development) and the top so many percent get 70-80. This used to be a small sliver of the student populace, the top 10% maybe, but with grade inflation this is more like 30-40% at most top unis nowadays. The same inflation hasn't happened to the 80s and 90s grades. At presitigious universities, the bulk of students get a 2:1 and very few get 2:2s. It would be hard for Ruby to not get at least a 2:1.
It's like, maybe 1 out of 100 students get over an 80, and maybe 1 in 1000 get over a 90.
It can’t be ‘very unique’. It’s either unique or it’s not.
Well, knowing they’re made of ‘dedicated‘ coconut has sold those to me. I personally refuse to eat any snack unless I know the ingredients were totally committed to being a part of it.
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a first in the uk is 70%+, most students achieving firsts will normally come away with grades between 70-78%. From experience it is very very difficult to get anything over 80% in coursework (for my degree anyway) as coursework grades of this percentage and over typically fall into the 'publishable with a few tweaks' category. However, I studied Biomedical Science so obviously couldn't comment on whether English Literature is the same, although I assume English Lit is probably essay-based whereas my degree was split between essays and exams.. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.The fact that a first in the UK is 60%…. A first seems like the best grade right? In my country 60% is barely a pass
my apologies, I've just read what FolderDuvet posted above and my post echos entirely what they have said. Glad to know it's quite generalised over the English University system.
It takes over 55% to get the worst passing grade and over 90% to get the top grade in my country. These threads have really disillusioned me about theThe fact that a first in the UK is 60%…. A first seems like the best grade right? In my country 60% is barely a pass
prestigious education in UK.That and Holly - the Cambridge biology graduate, looking up female anatomy diagrams online to find were her tina is so she can insert her menstrual cup.
I mean...percentages are awarded for different reasons and aren't comparable. Someone getting 100% on a maths test is a different calibre to someone getting 100% on an English essay, so you wouldn't compare them directly there without context. Just because 90% is achievable in your country doesn't mean that getting 80% in the UK isn't an incredibly impressive feat. There are plenty of problems with the UK's education system, but this is comparing apples to oranges and judging them because they're not identical.It takes over 55% to get the worst passing grade and over 90% to get the top grade in my country. These threads have really disillusioned me about the
You don't sound too bright. In some subjects in the UK such as medicine or nursing, 90% is the lowest passing grade for many exams. By your logic, your 90% top grade in your country is just a crappy barely-passing grade compared to them. You can't judge totally different education systems and totally different subjects by the same criteria.It takes over 55% to get the worst passing grade and over 90% to get the top grade in my country. These threads have really disillusioned me about the
Open University awards are different to traditional unis, as an example. A first at OU is generally 85+ because OU actually use the full scale from 0-100, whereas 90-100 is so rarely awarded in undergraduate essay subjects at unis like Exeter that it almost isn't there, if that makes sense? So it's just different benchmarks. An 80 in the UK might be awarded a 70 or 95 in other places depending on the grading system.It takes over 55% to get the worst passing grade and over 90% to get the top grade in my country. These threads have really disillusioned me about the
That and Holly - the Cambridge biology graduate, looking up female anatomy diagrams online to find were her tina is so she can insert her menstrual cup.
This. To a certain extent, over 70% in the UK is more-or-less similar to 100% in some other countries. When I went to uni (admittedly this was a while ago) we were literally told that you would have to work hard to get over 70% and that it was practically impossible to get over 80% in essay-based subjects unless you’d written something that could almost be taken and published as is. It’s always a bit of a shock for students coming to uni from school and who have been used to getting high numerical grades in their A-Levels to suddenly find themselves struggling to get over 60%, and also for them to see that 60% plus is actually a good mark.
I think it does differ across subject areas a bit though as when I did a stats module I got over 90% because it was all a bit more binary, but the highest mark I ever got in an essay was 86%, and that was a timed essay under exam conditions so I think the higher marking reflected that the expectations were possibly a bit lower! I don’t say that to boast as it’s not and never has been at all relevant, but just to illustrate that I think in some more STEM-like subjects (assuming an aptitude!) it’s possibly easier to get higher marks than in the arts and humanities. Possibly …
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