A few weeks ago I went out to the wheelie bin and the door blew shut. My two kids were inside asleep in bed. I had to call my dad who lives 5 mins away to come with a key. For those ten minutes I was beside myself they would wake up and be like where is mummy the thought made me really distressed. I could have sat in my car right outside the door but I sat on my knees in the cold rain with the letterbox open so I could hear. What the bleeping duck is wrong with you that you can leave your children home alone like that?! And not be anxious or worried they would wake up and wonder where you are. Let alone what happens if there’s a fire. I despair of people I really do.
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I did the same thing with my firstborn. Thankfully it was summer and I had the kitchen window open. But I dragged the bin to the gate, hopped (toppled?) over and the proceed to squeeze myself through the window, breaking the blinds and knocking over all the dishes on the countertop. Baby didn’t even stir from all the noise.
I hope the mother didn’t leave the children because she was at work and couldn‘t get/afford childcare. It’s easier to pour scorn on her if she left them to because of selfish reasons than her making an incredibly stupid decision because she had no other options.
I'm wondering if she had to work too. Obviously not excusable to leave four very young kids at home alone but she was a single parent and if it is a choice between work but leave your children or don't work and don't get paid maybe she felt she didn't have a choice. She has paid the ultimate price in loosing her babies. So very heartbreaking.
Very sad to read about those poor little twins in Sutton. I think either the mum has taken a (very ill advised) risk of leaving them at home for a short time to nip to the shops or something, or has been let down by childcare at the last minute and left them alone because she had to work - the report I read said she was a carer so clearly not well paid, and not turning up for a shift could have risked losing her job. Or possibly had thought another family member was going to mind them and left for work assuming they were on their way but they never turned up.
I left my eldest at home in his cot once early one morning (this is over 20 years ago now!) to run to the shop at the end of the road. 5 min round trip. I remember switching absolutely everything off before I went, ran there and back and when I got home he was still sound asleep. I know that's more of a risk than many would take.
Equally (and without wanting to rehash old ground) the McCanns left their children unattended in a holiday apartment and weren't charged with neglect (though arguably should have been).
I left my eldest at home in his cot once early one morning (this is over 20 years ago now!) to run to the shop at the end of the road. 5 min round trip. I remember switching absolutely everything off before I went, ran there and back and when I got home he was still sound asleep. I know that's more of a risk than many would take.
Equally (and without wanting to rehash old ground) the McCanns left their children unattended in a holiday apartment and weren't charged with neglect (though arguably should have been).
the government and its benefits cuts and the absolute disregard for child poverty. But that’s a whole can of worms. Horrendous situation all round
I also thought work could be why she left the house.
yep, damn right, where are the neglect charges against the McCanns who went away from three babies to stuff their faces and booze?
yep, damn right, where are the neglect charges against the McCanns who went away from three babies to stuff their faces and booze?
She was shopping at sainsburys apparently and the Christmas lights on the front door caught fire 
I really hoped the boys might have been in bed but one was still wearing his school coat. Terrifying for them.
I really hoped the boys might have been in bed but one was still wearing his school coat. Terrifying for them.With regards to David Fuller…..
I’ve just read the judge’s sentencing remarks…..53 counts of necrophilia/porn (2 years max sentence for necrophilia) and he got between 3 months and 6 months for each charge….which totalled just over 12 years…..I’m outraged…..12 years for defiling all those females. They are concurrent to his life sentences for murder too…..that must feel like such a kick in the teeth for the families of the deceased. The law really needs to change on sentencing.
I’ve just read the judge’s sentencing remarks…..53 counts of necrophilia/porn (2 years max sentence for necrophilia) and he got between 3 months and 6 months for each charge….which totalled just over 12 years…..I’m outraged…..12 years for defiling all those females. They are concurrent to his life sentences for murder too…..that must feel like such a kick in the teeth for the families of the deceased. The law really needs to change on sentencing.
There's no excuse. Not even where work is concerned should kids that age be left in their own.
Where did you see this?She was shopping at sainsburys apparently and the Christmas lights on the front door caught fire
Oh my god! How has necrophilia only a 2 years max sentence! That is abhorrent!
Here..
London: Mum was 'shopping at Sainsbury's' as Sutton fire killed twins
Kyson, Bryson, Leyton, and Logan, were home alone in Sutton when the blaze ripped through the entire ground floor just before 7pm last night.
metro.co.uk
So if this article is correct, she didn’t just pop out to the shops to grab a pint a milk. She was gone for nearly two hours?! I assumed she was a single mother - no one to help out daily - but it says she and her partner were well known in the neighbourhood. So if she needed to go out she could have waited or had him go to Sainsburys on the way home. Poor poor children. Even if a fire hadn’t claimed them, they were left alone, at night, for hours. I wonder if SS had them on their radar.
It also says she showed no emotion when she returned and saw what had happened which is weird. Especially as they otherwise seemed well loved and taken care of and neighbours said the parents were well liked.
Yes, seems that way and look how close the sainsburys is to the house, seems a long time to be gone really when it’s less than a 5 min walk. I’m not sure if the father lived with her or he was just around often enough for the neighbours to know who he was. I’m sure taking 4 kids of that age to the supermarket isn’t the easiest of tasks but they were far too young to be left alone. Rather the agg than the risk of the multiple things that could have happened and did happen.
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Shock? Hope this wasn’t deliberate.
Yeah I was thinking it might have been down to shock.
I wonder how long those poor boys were left on their own, I could understand if their mother had left them for 5 mins while she popped out for a pint of milk while they were asleep but to leave them for hours is incomprehensible. In the age of Deliveroo and Uber eats there is no issue getting groceries etc delivered really quickly... so I just can't understand her need to leave and to be gone hours while they all died 
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