Real Life Crime and Murder #21

[maytoseptember]

The Mail's continued coverage of the families of the Nottingham victims is getting really uncomfortable for me, anyone else? It's like the poor relatives are being encouraged to remain trapped in the worst stage of their grief so the Mail can be enabled to push their agenda. It's pretty sick to see people being obviously exploited but too emotionally damaged themselves to realise.

I always feel sad for the family of Ian Coates, who has been virtually forgotten because he wasn’t a young person with his whole life ahead of him. Even in the initial coverage of the murders he felt like an afterthought.

 

[Bima6694]

None of them should have been named. 12 year olds are children, even the most horrific ones.

Na I'm sorry, they lost their innocent 12 yr old status when they started running round like road men carrying machetes. Play adult games win adult prizes, pieces of shit

 

[CabalofBolorneaise]

Emma Webber 'thought about dying' and reflects on year of hell after attacks

Emma spoke of the 'dark' moments with her own mental health and anger at the justice system a year on from the devastating Nottingham attacks

www.nottinghampost.com

Interview with Barnaby Webber's mother. She talks about the letter that the Calocane family have written, she says that Ian Coates' son and the Kumars have read it, and the Calocanes blame the authorities and don't take any responsibility.

They don’t need to take responsibility for it. They didn’t do it.

She’s angry at the wrong people - even blaming them for having moved to the UK.

Her anger would be far better focused on campaigning to improve MH services and getting them to take appeals for help from people’s families more seriously.

 

[lilyannrose]

Anne Sacoolas STILL shirks responsibility for killing Harry Dunn

The US government employee described herself as a 'safe driver' in comments made during a voluntary police interview following the death, which have now been revealed in court.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I always wonder how she can sleep at night. She was driving again very soon after the boy's death. I could never. In fact, I am so scared of the potential for hurting or killing someone I never took up driving in the first place, though I realise that is very extreme on my part. Still, she has only ever shown worry for avoiding jail and the UK than worry for what she did. I remember she tried offering money to make it all go away at one point.

Awful spoilt person.

 

[CabalofBolorneaise]

I watched the news earlier and they were speaking to his Dad and he kept referring to him as a monster and he would never forgive him or his family. I'm sure the family won't forgive themselves but I don't like the whole "they moved here" that's not fair. I know they are angry and they should be, but be angry at the government for lack of funding.

The bit about them moving to the UK honestly makes her just sound massively racist. Grieving or not, that’s not in any way an acceptable thing to say.

They had every right to move here and his mental illness wasn’t caused by them moving here. Even if it had been a stone cold killing, which it wasn’t, it had fuck all to do with him moving here as a teenager.

 

[maytoseptember]

I noticed someone on Twitter trying to justify what the police did by saying “what if it caused a terrible car pile up?” and “what if it hurt a group of children?”

It was 9 o’clock at night. It didn’t do any of those things. The police were stupid, lazy and cruel. They wouldn’t have done it to a horse or a dog. When those loose horses were galloping through central London, I didn’t see anyone suggesting that the police should have rammed them with cars to get it over more quickly.

 

[thegirlscout]

I’ve seen hardly any reporting of this

2 French boys are accused of raping a 12-year-old Jewish girl in an act of antisemitism

French authorities say two adolescent boys have been given preliminary charges of raping a 12-year-old girl and religion-motivated violence

abcnews.go.com

French reports have said one of the rapists was her boyfriend who was angry she had hid her Jewish identity and they found anti semitic abuse on his phone. They allegedly vaginally and anally raped her, forced her to perform oral sex and hurled antisemitic abuse at her whilst doing so. They then threatened to kill her if she went to the police. Some reports have said they referenced Palestine during the rapes.

 

[Octopies]

Woman's beautiful life after tragedy snatched away by one man's selfish choice

Alice Birchall had overcome adversity for her own future, but that was torn apart by Jonathon Hopkinson's selfish choices

www.leeds-live.co.uk

Rich kid drives Audi at 100MPH on 30MPH residential street and kills innocent young woman driving home from work, plus injures his 8 year old daughter.

Waste of space and only got 8 years. Was caught speeding again mere months after this incident. From a wealthy family (sister is an influencer) clearly thinks there are no consequences to his actions.

Disgusting

 

[Lynn’ssnazzycardigan]

I can’t believe the Mail have named and pictured the lady who was the driver in the Wimbledon crash. It has already been determined she wasn’t at fault so why should she be shamed in this way?

 

[Violetroselily]

Anne Sacoolas STILL shirks responsibility for killing Harry Dunn

The US government employee described herself as a 'safe driver' in comments made during a voluntary police interview following the death, which have now been revealed in court.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I always wonder how she can sleep at night. She was driving again very soon after the boy's death. I could never. In fact, I am so scared of the potential for hurting or killing someone I never took up driving in the first place, though I realise that is very extreme on my part. Still, she has only ever shown worry for avoiding jail and the UK than worry for what she did. I remember she tried offering money to make it all go away at one point.

Awful spoilt person.

The way she has acted since day one is just despicable. No humanity or humility whatsoever, only interested in saving her own skin. I can't imagine the frustration and anger that Harry's family have felt all this time.

 

[GeminiMoon]

How many centuries of agriculture and livestock rearing in this country have we had and ramming a frightened animal with a vehicle is chosen as the best method in 2024. Wtf.

 

[LouBug19]

That poor calf, it wasn't even a fully grown cow - it is between the calf and fully grown stage. It might not have left its mother that long ago. I grew up on a farm and sometimes animals escaped and were in our back garden just chilling (I woke up to some outside my bedroom window once) and get some food you were sorted. I am sure other farmers would have help, shake a bucket they will come. It was probably absolutely petrified being away from its herd and it charging was a defence mechanism. There are so many ways to deal with animals, dart it, get it somewhere quieter, not bloody run it over TWICE and injure it. What absolute twats.

 

[YeahBrackie]

So we are to believe there was a boat full of people including the girls mum and he was able to continue to do that without being stopped. Incredible that Daily Mail managed to find a story like this.

Are you saying you don't believe the story on the basis that the people on the boat would have intervened? A woman was raped at 8am on a train on the London underground in front of other passengers, who all did nothing. It's unfortunately not as unbelievable as people may think.

Man who raped woman in front of other passengers on London Underground jailed

Ryan Johnston sexually assaulted and then raped a 20-year-old woman, who was returning home from an evening out with friends, on a Piccadilly Line train.

www.google.com

 

[thegirlscout]

Does anyone know what happened to those students from the agricultural college who were expelled? They were involved in the death of a sheep if I remember correctly
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I feel disgusted with the police in W London and what they did to that poor cow. There was no need to use so much force. As a Hindu it absolutely sickens me. The fail has the video TW

supposedly the cow has a huge cut to its leg but looking the video I wouldn’t be surprised if it has suffered more.

I can’t believe that police took 2 hours to try and secure the cow and decided that hitting it with their reinforced van was a sensible idea. In that time they could have called a farmer, a police unit that deals with animals etc, anything.
I live rurally and if we rammed every loose farm animal that had wandered into a local town or village there would be no live stock left!

 

[HaloGirl]

I feel disgusted with the police in W London and what they did to that poor cow. There was no need to use so much force. As a Hindu it absolutely sickens me. The fail has the video TW

supposedly the cow has a huge cut to its leg but looking the video I wouldn’t be surprised if it has suffered more.

 

[SaLou]

What the fuck have I just read?!

Girl 'strangled to death while being raped on sinking migrant boat'

Survivors claimed the man carried out the unspeakable attack after seeing his wife and daughter drown, Italian media reports, 'venting' his fury on the helpless girl in front of her mother.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Melian]

Two 12 year old boys found guilty of murder - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles...type=owned&at_format=link&at_ptr_name=twitter

 

[InTheDollsHouse]

The farming community will always step in when help is needed. Even if it’s not their animal.

I cannot believe the option they chose was to ram it. They clearly didn’t contact a vet until after it was injured.

 

[GlitterFluff]

It's bloody awful. Regardless of how you feel about your own dog they are an animal. I don't even allow my dog and cats to interact without supervision and without an escape for the cats just in case.
I adore my dog and am 99% certain he wouldn't do anything ever but all it takes is one trigger and he could flip completely.

People do not take dogs seriously. Thr amount of times a toddler has come up to stroke my dog whilst I've been out walking him and the parents just laugh and giggle like it is nothing.
It makes me so angry.

I’ve never not had dogs. My current ones are decently trained working breeds and are friendy, socialised and content. They’ve never shown an iota of aggression.

Would I leave any of them unattended with a child of any age? Absolutely not!!! A) they’re animals with animal instincts and b) children can’t always read the warning signs when a dog is upset.

I will happily tell children and parents not to touch my/any dogs without permission. Most of them don’t care though

 

[Justhereforthedrama]

What the fuck have I just read?!

Girl 'strangled to death while being raped on sinking migrant boat'

Survivors claimed the man carried out the unspeakable attack after seeing his wife and daughter drown, Italian media reports, 'venting' his fury on the helpless girl in front of her mother.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Ah yes because the normal instinct to seeing your kid and wife drown is to want to rape and murder someone else. And no one stopped him? Fucking hell. Some people!