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I’m I parenting wrong, my daughter is older then E
She has no boyfriends (but likes people at school) no false eyelashes or nails or doesn’t slap make up on, certainly no boyfriends in her bedroom.
Hasn’t moved schools since she started.

do I need to buy Rach’s book for some help 😂
 
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Im actually with J on this one. Why are there kids in your house while your own kids aren’t there? And sleeping in their siblings rooms? Nah. That’s not on. Boundaries.
Totally agree! But why let it get this far? She won his boys over from a young age by letting them do what other parents wouldn’t to be the cool Mum, and he allowed it🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ I mean she says she warned them about vapes, underage/ illegal activities yet doesn’t ban these from the house! He’s an ex officer so knows the consequences better then most. Mental!!! Why make it ‘easy’??! I mean most teens would go without the vape a bit longer if it meant going out in the cold/ rain?
 
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I just caught up on that last video! And it looks like J is also saying they are staying over and it’s a free for all! He says clearly people staying and being in rooms they shouldn’t! Like they have 2 minors and a bunch of teens in the house plus who they bring?!?🤯🤯🤯
 
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Ive said it before but that house is the one all the kids love and their parents hate. I had a friend with a mum like this and the friend ended up many issues as she grew older and wondered why her mum didnt care enough about her to put the boundaries in place. So sad for the kids
 
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Rachel, there is a very big difference between being your children's “best friend” and actually being their parent. Unfortunately, I think you've confused the two.

You seem to take pride in being the cool, parent who lets the children do what they want, gives them very little privacy or accountability, and puts being liked by them above actually parenting them. But children aren't around you because you're some incredibly progressive, boundary-free parent. They're around you because there are essentially no boundaries.

And then, when those children inevitably behave as though there are no boundaries, the responsibility gets passed somewhere else.

The example of Lula bringing 14 people into your home, including people you don't know, to eat, sleep, drink and party, while your home is treated with complete disrespect, says everything. Then blaming the cleaner for “letting” it happen is frankly astonishing. The cleaner didn't create that situation. Lula didn't suddenly discover that house rules existed and decide to ignore them. There were no meaningful boundaries in place in the first place.

If a teenager knows they can invite 14 people into their parent's home without permission, without supervision, without appropriate safety measures and without any meaningful consequence, that's not a flex. That's a parenting failure.

And this is where the constant criticism of schools becomes particularly frustrating.

I work in SEN school. I see children every day whose parents genuinely work with the school, listen to professionals, reinforce expectations at home and understand that supporting a child doesn't mean excusing everything they do. I also see the opposite: parents who insist that their child is misunderstood, that every teacher is at fault, that the school is failing them and that society simply doesn't understand their child, while refusing to acknowledge the role they have in establishing expectations at home.

Of course the education system has problems. Of course children with additional needs can require enormous amounts of support. An EHCP/ diagnosis (even if it's paid for) can provide important provision and accountability. None of that, however, means that a parent gets to abdicate responsibility for teaching their child boundaries, respect, personal responsibility and basic social expectations.

Children need adults who are prepared to be functioning adults who contribute to society in a postive way.

They need someone who will tell them that something isn't acceptable, even when they don't like hearing it. Someone who will say no. Someone who will impose consequences. Someone who will protect them when they aren't capable of protecting themselves. Someone who understands that allowing absolutely everything isn't freedom, sometimes it's simply a failure to parent.

Children are not stupid. They know exactly which parents they can manipulate. They know which rules exist, which don't, which consequences will never materialise and which parent will eventually blame somebody else. They talk about it. They take the piss out of it. What the parent sees as proof of being “close” or “cool”, the children can see as an opportunity to get away with whatever they want.

That's not a healthy parent-child dynamic. It's an abdication of parental authority.

There is also a tendency to confuse explaining behaviour with excusing it. Trauma, divorce, domestic violence, substance misuse and other adverse childhood experiences can have profound effects on children. They deserve understanding and appropriate support. But understanding why a child behaves badly does not mean removing every boundary around that behaviour.

Actually, children who have experienced instability often need more consistency, not less. They need adults who are predictable. They need clear expectations. They need to know where the lines are and what happens when those lines are crossed.

You cannot simultaneously remove every boundary, refuse to hold your children accountable, allow them enormous freedoms without appropriate safeguards, and then pretend to act shocked when they behave as though there are no rules. And you certainly cannot blame the cleaner when your teenager does exactly what you've taught them they can do.

Being your children's friend is easy. Being their parent isn't. A parent isn't there to win popularity contests. A parent is there to provide the boundaries, guidance, safety and accountability that children aren't developmentally equipped to provide for themselves.

So please, please don't write a book about parenting teenagers. The last thing parents of teenagers need is a manual on boundaries, accountability and raising emotionally healthy young adults from someone who appears to have demonstrated absolutely no understanding of any of those things in practice.

Before giving the world a parenting manual, perhaps master the basics yourself.

Because if the same problems keep appearing, across the same family, year after year, eventually you have to stop asking, “Why does everyone else keep getting this wrong?” and start asking, “What am I consistently failing to put in place?”
 
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Just seen this reply from R on her post (I'm actually surprised most opinions haven't been deleted)

Anyway, it's getting boring now. Just because she had a tit childhood doesn't mean she needs to parent her kids like she does 🤷‍♀️
God she's boring with this narrative.

I'm no saint and my childhood wasn't the best, I did drugs and danced at raves. My parents were out working and me and my sibling looked after ourselves the majority of the time. One of my parents had childhood trauma and could not be emotional but tried their best to be a parent. I have 4 children, none of them are like R's, I've been honest and they always come to me about everything but I still parent. You can be your child's friend but you still need to put boundaries in place and parent them.

Always someone else's fault with R. She needs to grow the duck up.
 
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Just seen this reply from R on her post (I'm actually surprised most opinions haven't been deleted)

Anyway, it's getting boring now. Just because she had a tit childhood doesn't mean she needs to parent her kids like she does 🤷‍♀️
*Did* she have a tit childhood though? Or did she just not get her own way and that's why she treats her kids the way she does. We've seen plenty of accounts over the years from people who grew up with her saying she was a bully and her childhood was nothing like she portrays (book burner step sister), and we all know about the infamous smashing up the phonebox when she didn't get the trainers she demanded incident.
 
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But she doesn't actually parent though. She's didn't need a friend she needed a parent, consistency and boundaries which she never got. Change the bloody record Rach. Just look at how Betsey is doing as far away from you as possible. Lets hope the others run too.
 
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Just seen this reply from R on her post (I'm actually surprised most opinions haven't been deleted)

Anyway, it's getting boring now. Just because she had a tit childhood doesn't mean she needs to parent her kids like she does 🤷‍♀️
She needed a house where the parents didn't give a tit and looked the other way at illegal/unwise activities? I don't think she bleeping did, did she? Because from the sound of it, that's exactly what she had and why she kept making bad decisions with no boundaries or advice from adults who were actually interested in being a parental figure to her.

She doesn't half talk absolute balls.
 
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Yes! Betsy is a prime example of a teen who had little boundaries, who has gone out and is actually living her life. I actually think she has thrived since she went. Could it have gone the other way, yes! But she is doing well without her mother smothering her.
Lulu is spoilt rotten
 
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I wonder how the parents of her children's friends feel about her opinions of their parenting.

Insinuating she has created a safe house for all the broken babies where she allows underage drinking, drug use, sex and god know what else (all by her own admission) and that its so needed as these children have no safe space at home.

J comes across as quite strict, but it almost seems like hes given up even trying so just does what he wants now.

Considering there are four biological parents involved in this shitshow could one of them do something about it?
 
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She needed a house where the parents didn't give a tit and looked the other way at illegal/unwise activities? I don't think she bleeping did, did she? Because from the sound of it, that's exactly what she had and why she kept making bad decisions with no boundaries or advice from adults who were actually interested in being a parental figure to her.

She doesn't half talk absolute balls.
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There’s being the ‘fun’ house and then there’s just a bleeping free for all. Her and Josh are absolute trash. The other kids parents must be just as bad or if they don’t know they need to get a grip of their kids and keep them out of Myra Hindleys way - she’s one creepy woman - no one should care this much about teens thinking she’s cool and probably hopes she’s seen as a MILF too. Safeguarding nightmare personified
 
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Yes! Betsy is a prime example of a teen who had little boundaries, who has gone out and is actually living her life. I actually think she has thrived since she went. Could it have gone the other way, yes! But she is doing well without her mother smothering her.
Lulu is spoilt rotten
I feel awful saying this but I cringe every time Lula opens her mouth 😬
 
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I bet if/when Betsy has children of her own they’ll be kept firmly off social media. Can only hope that the others eventually follow her lead, but poor Edie and Wilby have never known a life without intrusion and complete invasion of privacy.
 
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Oh Josh on a troll hunt because someone pointed out that their latest video is cringingly controlling.
 
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