I lurk on Jack Monroe threads so I think this is triangulation so a poster says something that might id themselves due to info they dropped. Another poster couldn't find the actual red triangle hazard sign and so the water melon came forth.What does the water melon signify? I'm not clued up on the jargon
Time was amazing. I still think about it so often. Especially that scene with BernardMy phobia is going to prison. I could not cope. I'm still scarred from "the marigolds/margarine scene" in Bad Girls. Not sure how true it was, but absolutely loved the TV show with Sean Bean and Stephen Graham in it - Time, I think it was called?
In the pub again? Sure you're not Irish?Sorry ive just snorted my drink out of my nose.
Thats hillarious
And the prisoners food is still better than hers. With or without an inexplicable eggI lurk on Jack Monroe threads
Ah, have to take advantage when I can. Only thing is, I think Guiness is the work of satan, so not sure I could beIn the pub again? Sure you're not Irish?
They hate me when I’m in a mood and do AFC’s/LBB and they’ve got multiple kettles on their side. Only supposed to have one prison issue kettle and they can have one they’ve brought themselves. However, if I see loads of “smelly kettles” (with laundry conditioner in to mask the smell of weed) or “cooking kettles” (self explanatory) I swiftly remove them or give them a warning to get ridNot caught up yet but on tiktok I’ve seen someone make an extension cord out of match sticks which is amazing. The kettle cooking is impressive too.
Bolts, bars and how much shite have you got in hereThey hate me when I’m in a mood and do AFC’s/LBB and they’ve got multiple kettles on their side. Only supposed to have one prison issue kettle and they can have one they’ve brought themselves. However, if I see loads of “smelly kettles” (with laundry conditioner in to mask the smell of weed) or “cooking kettles” (self explanatory) I swiftly remove them or give them a warning to get ridwe all know they cook in kettles but it trips the electric and then next thing you know you’ve got multiple prisoners complaining they’ve got no power!! Pain in the ass lol
I swear some of them could open a bloody shop!!! It’s ridiculous… always the ones that don’t order things from canteen either, they just run the wing & everyone pays them in canteenBolts, bars and how much shite have you got in here
And it keeps the peace. And makes your job easier as they deal with the minor day to day issues.I swear some of them could open a bloody shop!!! It’s ridiculous… always the ones that don’t order things from canteen either, they just run the wing & everyone pays them in canteen
Bish can't cook, man. I would rather be served institution food rather than her cosyplay workhouse cattlefeed.And the prisoners food is still better than hers. With or without an inexplicable egg
Then they get the lad who’s hooked on spice to give him a few digs in order for a free bit of spice paperAnd it keeps the peace. And makes your job easier as they deal with the minor day to day issues.
Until someone doesnt pay
You still got that?! Our joints have them tested for it now!Then they get the lad who’s hooked on spice to give him a few digs in order for a free bit of spice paper
The Uk womens prison i was in I was escorted by someone called DarrenDo women's prisons onnly have female officers? and vice verse? And in your respective work places, eggfriedrice (you're making me hungry) and stunrw, do you have any trans prisoners and how is that managed?
(I'm not trans btw I'm just interested because it's quite current).
Wow@TikToc you are so lovely...you all are. And you're all right, I should believe in myself more. What I'm about to say is related to prisons so I'm honestly not trying to drop a sob story!
Although I'm alot better than I was, I still lack confidence due to the people that have come through my life. 2 abusive relationships...the 1st was in 2003 and he went to prison for GBH with intent. the second relationship in 2019-2020 was more mental and emotional and I didn't have the courage to press charges and I dropped them(so angry with myself) . I found out after i finally left him for good in October 2020 and the Police used Clares Law to try and help me come to terms with none of it being my fault. I blamed myself for letting him do and say the things he did, and I found out through Clares Law that he'd been in and out of prison for violence, coercive control etc. I dropped the charges because I 100% beleieved (and still believe) he will come for me. Even for the police going to his door because of me. He hasn't found me yet and hopefully never will, although the anti-molestation order has now come to an end.
It's not the place for me to drop anchor any further on all of that, but they're my experiences with the law and prisons (and why I am the way I am).
It was the ex from 2003 I visited in prison (Sutton in Surrey, and then Winchester). However he was just a friend at that point and as far as anyone knew he went down for ABH on a night out when it was actually ABH on his ex. It's a very long story how he kept it covered up and the timeline it all happened so I'll spare you, but I went into the relationship with him after he was released....after I had visited him in Sutton and Winchester. He then went back to Winchester on the GBH with intent charge against me. I remember the prison in Sutton seemed much better and well run and cleaner where as Winchester was an absolute shit hole
Just wondering why two prisons, both in the South of England and not a million miles apart, can be so different ?
Thankyou, unfortunately it HAS defined me and I have no one in my life now apart from my family as so called friends have been shitty as well. It sounds ridiculous but some of the people I have "met" on Tattle are some of the loveliest people who I'd love to have as real friends.WowThank you for sharing that as I can imagine it was hard
Depends on a number of things:
The management structure for a start. There is ultimately whats called a Governing Governor (you’ll have maybe seen me say No1). They are in in overall charge of the jail. Then there are a number of governors below who manage different departments - so security, operations, equailty…all sorts of shite.ad made up job titles Below them there are what are (I think still) called Custodial Managers who are the most senior uniform grade who run the day to day stuff. SO’s (Senior Officers) then report to them and they are responsible for the teams of officers.
If the person at the top of the tree is crap then it filters down to everyone else. AND the Uk prison estate was built in the 19th century. So its falling to bits. Then the government forget to spend money, morale of the staff goes, outcomes for prisoners get worse. Vicious circle
Thank you for all your replies (not just to me). You sound like you are brilliant at your job and I would say the prisoners are lucky to have you (whether they realise that at the time or not lol).I can’t comment on every prison just mine however it doesn’t happen very often, that gets reported anyway.
I’ve caught two guys giving each other head in the showers but it was consensual. Also caught two guys in a double pad having sex but again consensual. There has been allegations of sexual assault but it’s usually by the LGBTQ+ prisoners and when investigated they turn out to be untrue/over exaggerated as to what has actually happened.
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen though because it does.. I’ve just not came across that in my career..
I wouldn’t say pull out of the assessment - but I would say declare absolutely everything when they ask.
I have a half brother (met him a handful of times) who is constantly in and out of prison which I declared when I started as it would be a conflict of interest if I ever went to a prison he was in. I don’t have anythjng
Thank you so much
Honestly I’m not going to lie, when I first started I was shit scared! I still going into situations now & my belly goes all funny with the anticipation of what’s going to happen because things can kick off in an instant, but you’ve just gotta fake it until you make it! They pick up on EVERYTHING.. they know if you’re scared & will play on that. My first shift as an officer I was in kit doing a planned removal (so moving a prisoner from his cell to the seg) and I was so nervousI was with officers that had loads of experience and here’s little old me (well I was 22 at the time) kitted up in riot gear, facing a prisoner who had 2 weapons who was ready to fight anyone, and just had to get on with it!
In terms of confrontation - yes. I get it absolutely every day. It wouldn’t be a day in the prison without an argument with one of them. But as weird as it sounds, I work with these prisoners day in, day out.. I can have a major argument with one of them and then 9 times out of 10 go in the next day and it all be fine or a lot of the times they do apologise to me.
We had a lad the other day who missed his video call for his parole, never been an issue on the wing, good as gold enhanced prisoner - he came down to get his lunch meal & just started swearing in my face telling me to fuck off and we’re all useless blah blah, got him back to his cell and then when he came down to his evening meal he apologised and just said he shouldn’t have taken his frustrations out on me but tbh it is what it is.. I get moody sometimes if I’m in a bad mood and the smallest things piss me off and they’re all like “ah you’re in a mood today”
But yeah, you’ll always get confrontation. (Unless you’re a yes man who lets them get away with anything, unfortunately that isn’t me & whilst I have banter with them, they know not to cross the line with me)
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Hahahah, imagine!!
Oh bless you. You shouldn't let anyone other than you define your life but i understand why as it sounds awful.Thankyou, unfortunately it HAS defined me and I have no one in my life now apart from my family as so called friends have been shitty as well. It sounds ridiculous but some of the people I have "met" on Tattle are some of the loveliest people who I'd love to have as real friends.
Thank you for the insight into your job as well, I have been DYING to ask you about your job, but there's a time and a place and the SB thread isn't it. I actually thought you were a solicitor/barrister at one point but then other bits you mentioned swayed me away from that. Your role sounds so interesting.
That's exactly what Winchester looked like...old and falling apart...this was back in 2003 though so no idea what it's like now. I also remember there being litter absolutely everywhere, and the waiting room floor was plastered in mud...weird the things we remember!...the visit itself doesn't really stand out in my mind, just the actual state of the place
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