The difference in the two interviews is staggering, the first one all soft spoken and contributing, I'd say he thought he'd give his false account and then police would disappear. He's extremely pissed off two years later when the whole thing hasn't gone away he's so passive aggressive rolling his eyes and yawning. Don't think I've ever seen such a narcissist, sick, demented pig in all my life
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When they're asking him these questions I'm pretty sure they know the answers, it's just to see what he'll say , will he admit to anything.
Wonder why the hot tub was a sensitive subject for him , going no comment and almost sounding subdued at the memory. Also a baby in a hot tub sounds wild to me, the water is so high, I know they were probably holding him but even if you accidentally let him go that's so dangerous, it's not like a bath or a paddling pool
I was confused by this too, but my teacher friend told me that a lot of their heads of years aren't actually PGCE qualified. So they can't teach a class, but can do a head of year / SENCO type role as they are more pastoral. To teach a class, you do your PGCE.
old enough to rummage their privates (none of mine really did that though I’m aware it’s not uncommon for little boys and they had taken videos of Preston doing it, the sickos).
self is often a form of self-soothing for very young children. Boys in particular, because their privates are more obvious and easier to access tend to do it more obviously than girls.* It' can be a way of providing themselves with comfort and reassurance if they are in distress, or just the sort of comfort as they are (say) nodding off to sleep, that might otherwise be provided by a dummy. It isn't sexual as it would be in an older child. Most children do it at one time or another, even the most loved and cared-for ones.
It can even be an aid to concentration - young children may touch their genitals while they're concentrating on something else. It's just a pleasurable sensation and most grow out of it as they become more physically active (and back into it as they become pubescent).
I think it's likely that Preston used it as a way of trying to provide himself with safety and comfort. While most children of his age, in his situation, would likely be cuddled and hugged to sleep in a strange place, Preston was left to cope as best he could. (It wouldn't surprise me if he was left alone in a bare cot, with all of the toys "tidied away".)
*Little girls will often sit and rock.
Up until now I could give JMF enough reasonable doubt but hearing he stayed with JV after all of this has come out, I just cannot see how anyone could do that and not be AT LEAST complicit or knowing what was going on. I presume he would have heard all this information or would this be his first time hearing it?
When they're asking him these questions I'm pretty sure they know the answers
At the risk of sounding flippant, I can tell you that a lifetime of watching "Rumple of the Bailey" and "Cavanagh QC" has taught me that a barrister doesn't ask any question that they don't know the answer to. (Or very rarely). It is toorisky as they may then get a response that haven't prepared for - their cases are built layer by layer with known facts and possible responses (and how to build upon/ counter them). Questioning the accused, as you say, allows any lies to be revealed, and (possibly even more importantly) allows the jury to see what sort of person this is - are they open and honest, arrogant and dismissive, sly, cocky, frightened etc.
Re: the hot tub - I've been in hot tubs (twice - I didn't like them) and apart from the obvious dangers of deep, chlorinated water and slippery babies, surely the temperature is too hot for the comfort of a small child? (Just thinking back to years of testing bathwater with my elbow, here).
Doesn’t exactly scream innocence does it. He’s forgetting there’s a baby at the centre of all this that’s died one way or another. Most people would be distraught and would sit up straight and treat it all with a little respect. He thinks he’s being victimised here, the guy is an utter disgrace and a danger to society.
are the jury seeing all these interviews on video or just seeing transcripts? I ask because I did jury service a few years ago (on an historical child abuse case). The initial interviews with the accused were just transcripts and some of the jury were not sure he had done it. When we saw later interviews his attitude and body language were very telling and they were convinced
I've just clocked what the police were getting at with their questioning in that latest podcast and then moving to the broken arm.
The bruises. Think about how a baby's face might be bruised if it were repeatedly banged against the structure of a cot, think about how forcefully a movement would have to be to break an elbow and then think about the cot picture we know exists.
I felt sick even writing that.
The bruises. Think about how a baby's face might be bruised if it were repeatedly banged against the structure of a cot, think about how forcefully a movement would have to be to break an elbow and then think about the cot picture we know exists.
I felt sick even writing that.
Sounds like Preston has bruises to his forehead almost constantly. Yes, babies of that age very occasionally bang their heads hard enough to bruise, but the sight of Preston with new bruises appearing on his head all the time should have rang alarm bells. JV’s mother saw him a lot - what on earth did she think?
Her comment at the hospital suggested she had fears that he was being mistreated.
Her comment at the hospital suggested she had fears that he was being mistreated.
Children under 5 shouldn't be in hot tubs at all due to risk of overheating, dehydration and the chemicals they use. Surely checking that is basic childcare.
And how many bumps/ bruises does a child of that age accumulate? Mostly they are playing in a comparatively protected environment - they may accidentally bump themselves on a cot bar or a table leg but most parents keep a close watch, move anything that could hurt them if they hit it, keep them off hard surfaces and away from sharp objects etc.
Preston had FORTY BRUISES on his head alone. Including behind his ear - that isn't an "easily knocked" place. I don't even want to think what these f*ckers have been doing to him.
they’re just utter monsters the pair of themI can't remember my daughter having more than the odd bruise at that age and the only ones on her head were from banging into other children/getting hit on the head at nursery.
I feel like today is going to be bad for the both of them. How do they explain away bruising in the back of the throat that couldn't have occurred when he arrested.
JMF I was on the fence but if he stayed with JV after everything that happened, I cant see how he wouldnt know what had been going on.
JMF I was on the fence but if he stayed with JV after everything that happened, I cant see how he wouldnt know what had been going on.
So the doctor who performed the post mortem has confirmed that the bruising could not have been caused by medical intervention. In order for bruising to develop, a person must have a pulse and sufficient blood pressure to allow blood to leak into the surrounding tissues.
When he arrived at hospital, he had no pulse. Although doctors were able to restore circulation briefly, she has stated it was not long enough for bruising to form.
I hope this helps reassure the jury that those bruises were caused at home and not at the hospital
When he arrived at hospital, he had no pulse. Although doctors were able to restore circulation briefly, she has stated it was not long enough for bruising to form.
I hope this helps reassure the jury that those bruises were caused at home and not at the hospital
I’ve also just had a thought that neither men have appeared emotional in court so far. Nor was JV emotional in police interviews, he was dismissive if anything. If I was innocent and being accused of these horrendous things I’d be devastated. I’d be devastated hearing all the injuries to my (adoptive) baby. They’re both very cold
The Pathogist is now on the stand. (Updates via M.E.N). Absolutely harrowing. Poor baby 
Given the regularity of bruises I'm giving JVs mum the side eye too..... as a more mature woman I expected more of her & when she looks back on those dreadful 4 months she must have had concerns & did absolutely nothing! I hope it haunts her.
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