Is anyone else finding this harrowing to read and feels like they should stop reading yet somehow feels compelled to carry on?
that poor poor boy
that poor poor boy
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1000%. I’ve got 2 boys who are constantly play fighting, playing football, getting knocks and bruises etc and often have a bruise or two. My Mum always asks them what they’ve done. So the fact a non-walking baby had multiple bruises (at the same time) and over such a short time period, you would hope she questioned it! Especially the ones to his face.
Poor baby
I suspect most people in JVs life walked on egg shells around him. The drama, the victimhood, constant chaos etc. So many people were given a decent hint that things weren’t what they seemed - his mum, colleagues, even social workers. Not that this in anyway excuses that these people close to him chose to turn a blind eye to inconsistencies in Preston’s life with them.1000%. I’ve got 2 boys who are constantly play fighting, playing football, getting knocks and bruises etc and often have a bruise or two. My Mum always asks them what they’ve done. So the fact a non-walking baby had multiple bruises (at the same time) and over such a short time period, you would hope she questioned it! Especially the ones to his face.
Poor baby
Totally agree . I hope they are haunted for the rest of their lives.
Its absolutely heartbreaking to think he was left with these 2 sick vile rats! Brusies to the back of throat, lips and all the bruises on his head even his bottom i cant even imagine the pain and trauma he experienced in his little life going from a warm loving foster home to then subject to this level of abuse its gut wrenching !
The fact he is so stone cold in his interviews no emotion towards the baby even thinking a nap in the car is wrong the resentment and signs are there! Evil twisted sick. Now is the time to bring back the death penalty. Preston was let down by everyone and I swear we are all going to need therapy after this i cant get the images out of my head of what he must have went through. I have a 2 year old and I just couldn't never imagine a baby experiencing this type of abuse ever !!!! Please praying to God these get what is coming to them !! As for his mum no way she didnt see all these bruises she was bathing and changing him surely she seen trauma to his bum i have no words for her other than she should be guilty aswell!
The fact he is so stone cold in his interviews no emotion towards the baby even thinking a nap in the car is wrong the resentment and signs are there! Evil twisted sick. Now is the time to bring back the death penalty. Preston was let down by everyone and I swear we are all going to need therapy after this i cant get the images out of my head of what he must have went through. I have a 2 year old and I just couldn't never imagine a baby experiencing this type of abuse ever !!!! Please praying to God these get what is coming to them !! As for his mum no way she didnt see all these bruises she was bathing and changing him surely she seen trauma to his bum i have no words for her other than she should be guilty aswell!
Anyone who even does the most basic level 1 safeguarding course is told that bruises on non walking babies are rarer than toddlers and that some places are very unusual for bruising or injuries in a child of any age. So soft places like tummy and bum cheeks, head, ear and neck and clusters on arms or thighs. Cheeks and mouths are also rare places for accidentally injury.
With a baby that you dress, bath and change nappies you tend to be aware of any bruises and know how they happened. Because you see their little bodies as you do everything for them. Of course he knew there were bruises but pretending he doesn't means he doesn't have to make up and remember another lie.
How often was Preston's social worker visiting?
My heart just breaks the more is revealed. I also think about the kids that JV taught. This must be so shocking for them too. He seems to have been very possessive of "his" year 11s and I imagine they were very shaken by what happened. Their arrests were public and will have been talked about locally
With a baby that you dress, bath and change nappies you tend to be aware of any bruises and know how they happened. Because you see their little bodies as you do everything for them. Of course he knew there were bruises but pretending he doesn't means he doesn't have to make up and remember another lie.
How often was Preston's social worker visiting?
My heart just breaks the more is revealed. I also think about the kids that JV taught. This must be so shocking for them too. He seems to have been very possessive of "his" year 11s and I imagine they were very shaken by what happened. Their arrests were public and will have been talked about locally
The only way I can follow this trial at all is to be quite clinical and detached. Whenever I stop and think about what they really did to him, and the pain and terror he would have felt… I can’t actually bear it.I got really upset this morning driving to work just thinking about how scared he must have been and not being able to get awaythey’re just utter monsters the pair of them
I have been feeling the same. I also felt that way reading the trial updates regarding Star Hobson, Arthur Labinjo- Hughes…Sebastian Kalinowski.
All those precious children who should have felt love and safety.
It really hurts and really affects me; but I feel like if this children had to LIVE it and experience it then I should
Be able to
Stomach reading it.
I’d be interested to know if JV’s mum is in court supporting him or not.
Does anybody know if the jury will be shown pictures of the bruising or is it just being described to them?
It IS harrowing @stickytoffeepud and I do ask myself whether it’s wrong to get in too deep to child abuse trials like this.
But on the other hand, we kind of owe it to these kids to acknowledge that this kind of abuse does go on. It’s easy to turn away and say you don’t want to even think about it.
I genuinely think that if more people knew, really knew, the horrors that some abused children go through, maybe as a society we would be less inclined to “not get involved” and turn a blind eye. How often do we hear about neighbours not speaking up?
But on the other hand, we kind of owe it to these kids to acknowledge that this kind of abuse does go on. It’s easy to turn away and say you don’t want to even think about it.
I genuinely think that if more people knew, really knew, the horrors that some abused children go through, maybe as a society we would be less inclined to “not get involved” and turn a blind eye. How often do we hear about neighbours not speaking up?
Yes, I felt the same about Logan Mwangi and Star Hobson. But I feel like I have to read the details, because the way those innocent kids lost their lives needs to be remembered.
I feel sick
the pathologist has just said that the I Josie’s indicate an object was put into his mouth but due to the lack of injuries to the gums and teeth it is likely it was not a hard object
I feel for the poor jury, I imagine at the end the judge will tell them they are excused for life, but it's bad enough for us reading about it, I can't imagine how horrifying it must be to sit there and see those two perverted monsters while hearing about all the hideous abuse they subjected poor little Preston to
I’m pretty sure they are shown photographs of the bruising visible on his body 🥲
The pelvic organ injuries 
That poor jury!
I keep thinking this is all too much, but we have to remember that poor Preston had to endure all of this. The least we can do is listen and acknowledge that this happened to him. He deserves that at the very least, not to be ignored because it upsets us
That poor jury!
I keep thinking this is all too much, but we have to remember that poor Preston had to endure all of this. The least we can do is listen and acknowledge that this happened to him. He deserves that at the very least, not to be ignored because it upsets us
This is how i feel and why I continue to read about it. Poor boy lived it, the least I can do is hear about it and think about him.The pelvic organ injuries
That poor jury!
I keep thinking this is all too much, but we have to remember that poor Preston had to endure all of this. The least we can do is listen and acknowledge that this happened to him. He deserves that at the very least, not to be ignored because it upsets us
For me I try to detach from the details and emotions too much. I find the psychological aspect interesting. How people act when their lying, the tell tale signs and leaks they give away.
Overarching that is the bigger safeguarding picture. How many time do we have to hear, "multi agency approach", "joined up working" and all the other rubbish until professionals actually start speaking to each other and sharing information.
Some nurses at the hospital raised safeguarding concerns of non accidental bruising. Police and safeguarding were alerted but it seems the Dr thought the parents were lovely and off they went.
The school teachers and head teacher. Did non of them think to speak to the social workers, even to see if they were receiving adequate support? Given some of his concerning statements.
The social worker comes across as non really listening to anyone except JV and his version of events.
The neighbours not reporting concerns, his mum.
The picture built up with all the information is hugely concerning way before he died. If anyone had that full picture things may have been different for Preston like so many others before.
That's why it's important, everyone needs to realise that speaking out about something that concerns you could save a child from these horrors.
So I hope these monsters never see the light of day again but I also hope for change to protect future children.
Overarching that is the bigger safeguarding picture. How many time do we have to hear, "multi agency approach", "joined up working" and all the other rubbish until professionals actually start speaking to each other and sharing information.
Some nurses at the hospital raised safeguarding concerns of non accidental bruising. Police and safeguarding were alerted but it seems the Dr thought the parents were lovely and off they went.
The school teachers and head teacher. Did non of them think to speak to the social workers, even to see if they were receiving adequate support? Given some of his concerning statements.
The social worker comes across as non really listening to anyone except JV and his version of events.
The neighbours not reporting concerns, his mum.
The picture built up with all the information is hugely concerning way before he died. If anyone had that full picture things may have been different for Preston like so many others before.
That's why it's important, everyone needs to realise that speaking out about something that concerns you could save a child from these horrors.
So I hope these monsters never see the light of day again but I also hope for change to protect future children.
She said she had never seen injuries to a babies throat like that... Really puts in perspective what was done is actually really rare and unusual even for child abusers
Unfortunately I've been feeling like all the info put out from the start has already been trying to suggest that the actual cause of death was suffocation/choking due to an oral sexual assault. Because that would then make sense as to why JV would claim Preston slipped underwater in the bath even though all he was obviously dry, when there'd be far more plausible cover stories ... unless he somehow needed to alert doctors that Preston had choked on or inhaled some kind of liquid (even if his own saliva) to get him the right emergency treatment.
Though I'd really love to be wrong for the sake of that poor baby
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