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PaddyDomino

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i honestly think they adopted him specifically to abuse him. You don’t go from quasi normal (albeit angry and intolerant) parenting to sexual abuse within 4 months. They fooled everyone - the agency, the social worker, their friend and family, the panel. Every single person and authority who were supposed to safeguard failed Preston. As other people said, my heart is breaking for his family and his foster family.
I think everyone was giving them the major benefit of the doubt, despite Varley "telling" on himself so much, he admitted having dark thoughts about suffocating Preston, which is exactly what ended up happening.
He admitted suicidal thoughts.
He called poor Preston all sorts, including a "joke" about murdering him.
He foreshadowed so much.
However, his three colleagues/friends did notice that he'd told them all different versions of how Preston had broken his arm and one colleague did ask for a welfare check to be done.
The welfare check was done by the headteacher of the school, not by social services, so it seems to me that the welfare check was on Varley, so to speak, to see if he was coping, and not on Preston?
Personally, I think when poor Preston's arm was broken was when he should have been removed from them.
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Varley always seemed to have an answer for everything, for example, inappropriate photos of Preston in the bath say, were "for the doctor".
 
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Rubyroo160

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A longer 6 minute video
JV’s behaviour is so melodramatic and fake here. Interesting how they don’t really communicate at all, walk down the corridor seperately and then neither try to comfort each other when they’re outside, one sitting the other pacing
 
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So varley got into shower and conditioned his hair but arrived at the hospital with blown dry hair hmmmmmmmm !!! Ok surely if he wasn't breathing after he took him out the bath and took him straight to hospital they would both still have wet hair? Did he blow dry his hair and style it to put on his performance at the hospital? Absolute clown
 
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I just dont get how he thinks its ok to prop his phone up in bathroom and video preston in the bath unsupervised with water and its probably iced cold to get a kick out of it, and leaving him to whimper and slipping as he wanted to see how he reacts being left alone... why the bath?!?!? Why not playpen, jumperoo, cot why a bath the cruelty in that alone is enough to know intentions to harm him was there!
 
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Nelly's mum

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V seems to think his fake wailing will fool the hospital into not alerting the authorities. He is used to getting attention and sympathy when he goes all dramatic and it worked up to this point, classic DARVO moves.
I'm sure JV was completely freaking out at the hospital - he knows what he did to Preston, that he will found out and that his life will never be the same again - he was upset for himself, but JMF actually seemed to feel more shock and grief for Preston, JV didn't even want to go to him or hold his hand when he was dying.

JV was waffling on about getting his pjs and his pj top but he was vague or 'no comment ' at other times - he was focussing on an irrelevant detail to avoid saying what he actually did to Preston.

@PaddyDomino made an interesting comment about killers mentioning baths and showers, I'd not picked up on this before but a few cases come to mind - psychologically, I guess it is a killer 'cleansing' themselves and 'washing away' their guilt 🙁
 
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nothinonyou

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I had a look on Facebook and found this, JV has lost loads of weight and has the bleached blond hair mentioned in the podcast:

Omg the state of him.

I'm confused why he was arrested in 2023 and again last year? Was he released into the community for two years? Bet they thought they had gotten away with it!

Also the long blonde hair is definitely because his picture was released after arrest and he's afraid of getting recognised
 
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flippinpancakes

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Sorry if I’ve missed this but what was their reason for the fractured arm at the hospital? I’m as shocked and saddened by this case as everyone else reading this. He’s been in my thought everyday. Sending my love to everyone following this thread as it’s a hard read.
 
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Spidey2020

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I can imagine them saying the foster carer is being pushy and not letting them form their relationship with Preston as an excuse for not seeing them. Given how fawning the professionals have been of them the SW probably would have accepted that without question and dismissed the FC concerns.
 
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Tobodee

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The doctor says she sucked what looked like milky vomit from the baby’s throat, however she does not recall any water being removed. There was no fluid or vomit suctioned from his lungs, she adds.


Is this what I think it is :(
you know, I’ve become quite desensitised over the past few years, but my God, this has made me feel faint. It’s just too much to comprehend, fucking sick sick perverted c*#+ts.
 
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TheMiceInTheShed

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Sorry I'm posting so much in here but this case is taking over my mind, it honestly has me tormented. But I've a possible theory, perhaps its tinfoil hat but I've read all the details and spent an unhealthy amount of time thinking about it all.

JV made a lot, and I mean a lot of comments to people about how he was struggling. I want to put him in the field of cows, he's dead, he's spoilt, the foster parents spoiled him, I'm struggling with dark thoughts blabla. It doesn't really couple well with someone trying to hide the abuse that theyre committing. So it made me think there must be a reason why he was saying all that so openly, he is a tactical psychopath by all accounts so I think everything he said was for a reason..

I think maybe they planned to get a baby to abuse when it was small and non verbal, but not keep. I think he was setting up the backstory for the adoption to fail, so he could discard that poor child before he became too dangerous to abuse. A year off work to fulfill his sick desires and then return to sympathy and back pats. Loads of photos as a memory 🤢😭💔 until he took it so far he killed him. Thoughts?
Hadn't occurred to me, but you could well be right.

Terribly sad - we tried so hard - he was just too damaged when he came to us - he needed a specialist placement - it's breaking our hearts to part with him, but we know he needs so much more than we can offer him - darling Elijah, we'll never forget him, he will be forever in our hearts - give us a few months and we'll have another one please.

It's a horrendous thought, but very p[lausible. You might well be on to something there.

There are no words to describe what I think of these POS. Like yourself, I'm consumed with the horror of it.
 
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Emsie

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My profile picture used to be my dogs - then it was Becky jones - from back in the lock down days when the threads were really quite fun. I had breast cancer and went through a hard time and didn’t post for a long time. And tbh - there’s not many threads I do post on now…. But anyway, I never really got round to changing it. I probably should tbh.
But again- I understand your point of view. There are lots of disappointing sw out there and I can see why you’d make a judgement on me. All I can say is - I work tirelessly for and with the families assigned to me and I’m very good at my job. I’m sorry if your experience hasn’t been positive. ❤
No judgement - have whoever you want as your profile picture. It's people like, profile pic and all, that have made my family a success story.
Keep posting on threads ♥
 
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maytoseptember

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The number of parents or guardians who believe they can talk their way out of these situations, convinced they’re far cleverer than everyone else, is staggering.
I keep going back to JV’s account of Preston drowning in the bath. Did he really think the doctors would just accept this, that there would be no post mortem, let alone no searches of the house or checking of his phone?

He did fool enough people during the lead up though, so maybe he got too confident.

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I mean this nonsense about a wide awake Preston jumping in his cot, holding onto JV’s arms standing opposite him? 13 month olds can’t jump. Preston wasn’t even walking at this point.
 
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Square Peg

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If the photo of his red sore bottom was to send to the doctor, I’m sure that must be in Preston’s medical records and the GP could verify it. Another photo which was pixelated showed Preston’s private part erect, that’s what Jamie sent to John saying “that’s our boy”. I did believe both of these were innocent last week, but reading the cruelty, spite and vindictiveness of Jamie has changed my mind. I can’t believe they had him 3 months and tortured him so much, It’s beyond comprehension 😓
 
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stickytoffeepud

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I feel sick

the pathologist has just said that the I Josie’s indicate an object was put into his mouth but due to the lack of injuries to the gums and teeth it is likely it was not a hard object
 
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Padparadascha

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The lack of compassion isnt a male thing. My baby was colicky from birth for the first 3 months and would only stop screaming with pain about 30 mins before his next feed was due. Because I had a section, my husband would spend literal hours rocking the baby while I snatched some sleep in between breastfeeding stints. Neither of us got much sleep in those days.

I believe they planned to abuse the baby boy they would get.
 
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Lolly505

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I feel sick

the pathologist has just said that the I Josie’s indicate an object was put into his mouth but due to the lack of injuries to the gums and teeth it is likely it was not a hard object
Unfortunately I've been feeling like all the info put out from the start has already been trying to suggest that the actual cause of death was suffocation/choking due to an oral sexual assault. Because that would then make sense as to why JV would claim Preston slipped underwater in the bath even though all he was obviously dry, when there'd be far more plausible cover stories ... unless he somehow needed to alert doctors that Preston had choked on or inhaled some kind of liquid (even if his own saliva) to get him the right emergency treatment.

Though I'd really love to be wrong for the sake of that poor baby 😞
 
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MaineCoonMama

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I’m a cp social worker and I can tell you it amazes me when people discuss these cases and vehemently deny that there can be any preferences given to adopters and anyone involved with SS, as there are legal processes that must be adhered to by everyone.
It amazes me how people can be so naive.
The processes are only as good as the people implementing them.
The social worker involved in this case without a doubt is not following procedure and I suspect her line manager and the team throughout have poor monitoring of their staff.
Thank you for the insight. I have next to no knowledge of how things like adoption work but I understand that people are going to slip and let their natural biases through on occasion.
 
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frankiejoehoe

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How many baths did this child have a day!! I don't really want to know but it's like he was always in the bath!!
I don't think poor Preston had a second bath, his grandma bathed him and that was it. The bath story was that disgusting monsters excuse for Prestons collapse, I guess he had to think of any excuse but as has been said by the witnesses, Preston was dry, it was only meant to be about 10 minutes after apparently being found in the bath that he was at a&e so he would've still been wet from the bath if he had been in the bath.
 
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And now he just so happens to go in the room and point out brusies to his head and leg and then randomly lift up his lip and ask what are these thats new... he knew exactly what they where and covering it up !! Its making me sick 😫
 
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Rayne

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Ya know what i dont get is the level of abuse he done to him knowing hes causing seizures, bruises etc hes still under social care and likely they would question him about bruises and stuff. How did he think he was getting away with it. Why would he film him and have photos knowing the likelihood of him being caught is very high.... I mean I dont undertsand a mind like his but if I was adopting a child purely to do these things why would I film him knowing I would be caught.... I cant belive I have just wrote that but did part of him want to be caught ? Did he think he was smart enough to get away with it... would the outcome of him being arrested have been any different if he didnt film this stuff and I question if john was deleting stuff on his phone outside the hospital aswell. Pair of scumbags !
He’s clearly a narcissist and he will have believed he was untouchable which would have contributed towards it.

He’s also a sadist who would have wanted memories of the abuse through pictures and videos.

He may have also had plans to share the images and videos in future. I would hope the police investigation would have found out if he had been sharing pics and videos of Preston on Snapchat during the abuse.
 
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