Positive covid antibody test

[Scubasf]

People who think they had it in November or December - I’m pretty sure you can’t have had it then. There was a nasty flu virus doing the rounds but Covid was not in the U.K. then. If you look at the death statistics chart for the U.K. for 2019 and 2020 (all deaths, not just Covid deaths), it clearly shows that deaths were following the normal curve right up until
March when they rapidly went sky high. In fact, they were slightly below the curve which shows that there were less deaths than average. If Covid had been here before the end of January other than the odd isolated case, there would have been a massive spike of deaths showing in January of February but there isn’t even a tiny rise before March.

I think we forget how bad flu can be. I was horribly ill with a high temperature, shortness of breath, awful cough and feeling dreadful - classic Covid symptoms...but it was in 2018 so Covid didn’t even exist then.

 

[Casperron]

People who think they had it in November or December - I’m pretty sure you can’t have had it then. There was a nasty flu virus doing the rounds but Covid was not in the U.K. then. If you look at the death statistics chart for the U.K. for 2019 and 2020 (all deaths, not just Covid deaths), it clearly shows that deaths were following the normal curve right up until
March when they rapidly went sky high. In fact, they were slightly below the curve which shows that there were less deaths than average. If Covid had been here before the end of January other than the odd isolated case, there would have been a massive spike of deaths showing in January of February but there isn’t even a tiny rise before March.

I think we forget how bad flu can be. I was horribly ill with a high temperature, shortness of breath, awful cough and feeling dreadful - classic Covid symptoms...but it was in 2018 so Covid didn’t even exist then.

Glad someone said it! The flu is really common, even if you have had the flu jab (20-50% protection rate) everyone’s so desperate to say they’ve had coronavirus

 

[Summer0408]

Glad someone said it! The flu is really common, even if you have had the flu jab (20-50% protection rate) everyone’s so desperate to say they’ve had coronavirus

Whose desperate to say they’ve had Coronavirus? Why would anyone have wanted it..?

 

[Kim Mild]

Did you get tested because of your job?

 

[bubbadabut]

My husband is a doctor and the whole of his practice of about 30 staff were tested a couple of weeks ago for antibodies. Every single person tested negative. This includes a doctor who had coronavirus in March (her partner also had it) and she still has not recovered her sense of smell. Her partner tested positive for antibodies but she tested negative. So either the tests are giving false results or some people aren't producing antibodies.

 

[cherrypepsimax]

I really want this test - I was SO poorly end of November last year. I never catch viruses and things but I was pretty much bed bound for 6 days, went to the doctors twice in a week. I had a high temp, awful cough and saw throat, pounding headache. I'd never felt so ill! I would LOVE to know if it was COVID back then.

 

[Norfolking Good]

I work for the NHS so had the test and it came back positive. Was really poorly in mid March with loss of smell/taste, terrible muscle pains, splitting headache for days and temperature so not surprised at all. I’m the only one in the team who tested positive but my husband is a teacher so I’m pretty sure he brought it from school as he was sick the week before. We were pretty doomed considering where we both work, absolute cesspit for germs!

 

[Scubasf]

Not everyone dies from it, when the death rate was at it's highest , not everyone who tested positive died . Viruses circulate for a while before in people who don't get medical attention so there will be lots of undocumented cases. They only noticed something was up in Wuhan when they realised how many people were seeking treatment for an unusual pneumonia type illness.

Not everyone transmits their germs to everyone they come into contact with Some people always practice good respiratory and hygiene. Perhaps they weren't in the asymptomatic period when they were close to other people. I know people who tested positive for covid who've been the only one in their household who've been ill.

Yes a lot of people had regular winter viruses but some people did have more unusual symptoms that don't come with them . None of people I know who claim they had it round December/ jan have come down with a virus since.

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-france-patient-zero-december.html

I completely agree with al lot of what you’re saying, but a proportion of people would have died - it’s not like a proportion of people who had it suddenly started dying in the middle of March after nobody had caught it and died of it before then - the only way to explain the figures is that it wasn’t here other than in potentially occasional isolated cases before then. And the general public had terrible hygiene before we were all told to wash our hands regularly (this is something I did all the time as I have a phobia of viruses but surveys have consistently shown that far less people wash their hands than we’d think). We already knew about Covid in January - if we had been getting a lot of strange pneumonia related deaths or hospital admissions or even cases seen by GPs, it would have been picked up on fast because the medical community was aware of it being in other countries and the symptoms. I don’t doubt that there will have been the odd isolated case but it is not possible that it was here in the quantity for everyone who claims they had it in November and December to have had it then without it spreading exponentially and a) being noticed and b) killing a percentage of those infected.

 

[Polkadot123]

I got randomly selected and was sent the antibody test through the post. However it was negative. But I was expecting it to be. I'm not a front line worker or anything.

However my brother in law has done the test and his was positive for antibodies but his husband (my brother) was negative. He is pretty sure he's had it and he's a nurse on the front line. Well they both are. So either the test wasn't accurate. As I'm not sure how two people living together and both being nurses, one got it and one didn't??

 

[AutumnSpring]

I think private clinics offer it but most of us are tested in our workplace.

Thank you! Didn’t even think of that lol. Just googled it again and B U P A are offering one. I just hope they’re accurate x

 

[Northeast1988]

You can’t argue with the facts in this graph which was created on 24th April. The coloured line is all U.K. deaths in 2020 - not just Covid deaths - deaths by any cause. You can clearly see that we entered 2020 with the usual relatively small peak of deaths that occurs in January (due to flu, pneumonia and other viruses that are around at that time of year) - nothing unusual about that. Then the death rate dropped below average because the flu season was slightly milder than usual. The deaths then rapidly spike out of nowhere in mid March. The people who died in mid March from Covid would have got sick towards the end of January at the absolute earliest - mid February is more likely. If Covid had been in our community before then, the death spike would have happened earlier or at least been a more gradual rise. Think about people’s behaviour around Christmas - there is a lot of visiting relatives and there are parties too - it would have spread like wildfire, especially amongst the elderly during Christmas visits. This would have shown in the death rate as although most people don’t die from it, a lot of people do, especially elderly people.

that’s not to say that there couldn’t have been the odd isolated case - there is potential for that, but pretty much everyone who was ill in November andDecember and most of January will have had flu or similar.

Like I said I beg to differ and do think it was here December January as Mid January my other half was involved in the first official case in the uk and before it was announced there was loads in December ill after flying in from wuhan

 

[Northeast1988]

For various reasons. If you've had it then you have survived it and there's a very good chance you are protected from having it again.

I don’t think there’s any proof once you’ve had it , you are protected from a second time
Many virus’ I,e tb , flu, chicken pox , common cold you can get more than once

 

[Platypusfattypus]

I don’t think there’s any proof once you’ve had it , you are protected from a second time
Many virus’ I,e tb , flu, chicken pox , common cold you can get more than once

No there isn't any proof but there haven't been any reported cases of reinfection so far. Immmunity may not be guaranteed or permanent but it does give people a bit of reassurance that they've had it and have some degree of immunity.

 

[Summer0408]

I really want this test - I was SO poorly end of November last year. I never catch viruses and things but I was pretty much bed bound for 6 days, went to the doctors twice in a week. I had a high temp, awful cough and saw throat, pounding headache. I'd never felt so ill! I would LOVE to know if it was COVID back then.

I had similar in November too. My partner had given it too me after contracting from his office and he said it wiped all of his office out. I hadn't even considered that it may be Covid-19 due to the fact it was in November...

 

[Gym&Tonic]

I don’t think there’s any proof once you’ve had it , you are protected from a second time
Many virus’ I,e tb , flu, chicken pox , common cold you can get more than once

You can get chicken pox twice, but it’s very rare to do so. The common cold is actually lots of different viruses that mutate which is why there is no cure. As you get older you get fewer colds because you develop immunity due to being exposed to so many different variations of it over your lifetime, and that’s why young children get so many compared to adults. They haven’t yet developed that immunity.

Flu is pretty much the same. I’ve only ever had it once in my lifetime, thank god, never been so ill.

 

[Lollypad]

My partner had an antibody test last week too (NHS staff) still waiting on results. There was a very nasty chesty thing going round our work end of December start of Jan that we all thought “can’t have been” but I’d be very interested to find out. It made people very poorly for a good 2-3 weeks.

 

[Lollypad]

Glad someone said it! The flu is really common, even if you have had the flu jab (20-50% protection rate) everyone’s so desperate to say they’ve had coronavirus

This is true, and the flu is awful - it does annoy me when people go into work and they’re like “I’ve got the flu” - you wouldn’t be standing up. That’s another point - I really hope this will have a better effect on taking sick days, stop going into work spreading your germs to everyone

 

[Platypusfattypus]

We had the bug in Dec, took a fair few of us out for a bit with bad coughs, fatigue and body aches but no one has had a positive antibody test (nhs). It was obviously just a flu virus doign the rounds.

 

[Northeast1988]

People who think they had it in November or December - I’m pretty sure you can’t have had it then. There was a nasty flu virus doing the rounds but Covid was not in the U.K. then. If you look at the death statistics chart for the U.K. for 2019 and 2020 (all deaths, not just Covid deaths), it clearly shows that deaths were following the normal curve right up until
March when they rapidly went sky high. In fact, they were slightly below the curve which shows that there were less deaths than average. If Covid had been here before the end of January other than the odd isolated case, there would have been a massive spike of deaths showing in January of February but there isn’t even a tiny rise before March.

I think we forget how bad flu can be. I was horribly ill with a high temperature, shortness of breath, awful cough and feeling dreadful - classic Covid symptoms...but it was in 2018 so Covid didn’t even exist then.

I beg to disagree on this one purely because there was a lot of international students flew back into student accommodation December and January with some coming from wuhan with what looked like a serious of bad flu that pretty much put the whole accommodation block into bed for two weeks and also from my point of view working as a nurse there was a lot of what doctors thought was bad flu coming through the door that weren’t responding to the typical treatment which looking back now they think covid was here well before it officially got picked up

 

[Pjw596]

I really want this test - I was SO poorly end of November last year. I never catch viruses and things but I was pretty much bed bound for 6 days, went to the doctors twice in a week. I had a high temp, awful cough and saw throat, pounding headache. I'd never felt so ill! I would LOVE to know if it was COVID back then.

Same . Me and dh were really ill , the kids however were fine, and most of the teachers were of school some for up to 3 weeks. I remember talking to the head teacher and she said she’s never knew a bug or virus like It, making the staff and parents Ill but kids fine