Think it is because her family said in a statement that she took her life, so could been note or pills or some evidenc3 that led them to say that.
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Focusing on PS, I have updated & edited my post 15/2/20 for the benefit of newcomers, apologies for repetitions of earlier info and any missed out for those who've been with the thread quite a while...
• This all started last July with a private tweet stating PS had a flat in London where he took young guys and that he had been in a relationship with MM who was a runner on TM. This tweet was made public after PS made his public "outing" on 7/2/20, but the timeline confirms the date of original post.
*PS is gay, apparently a fact known in showbiz circles over the last 30 years. The public, in the main, doesn't care about his sexuality (no homophobia here) - the issue that upsets everyone are the blatant attempts by him, his cohorts and the media corporations backing him to manipulate the public into believing this is a recent personal "discovery" or "revelation", despite its being known in the "business" - both television and journalism - for years. I repeat, No one cares that he's gay. They care about being lied to and being manipulated, particularly if this is any part of an attempt to cover up any other potentially more damaging (perhaps even illegal as well as immoral/unethical) stories...
* Another concern is that this "revelation" may or may not be in connection with the rumours of PS being intimate with a much younger (teenage) person, MM, who he may have met at a theatre group he is patron of when MM was aged @ 10/11yrs. He also "friended" MM on social media when he was 15 and then "mentored" him through "menial" runner work at TM for a number of years after MM had crowdfunded £500 for a move to London as a very young teenage adult. MM was then "promoted" to personal assistant as well as runner for PS & HW before being moved over to LW in the summer of 2019 after an alleged falling out or break up with PS. MM was apparently sacked by ITV last week, just before the big"reveal". MM's Twitter and media accounts, alongside the web page of theatre he attended as a youngster, have disappeared. Not concerning or worrying at all?!?!
*SS (no relation to PS, surname coincidentally the same) ran the 2 Faced theatre that MM attended. SS was a child performer, with PS and has remained friends with him, occasionally appearing on stage with him, on ITV shows and on the cruise liners promoted by PS and his family. Coincidentally, JS also promoted the same cruise liners. SS has socialised with PS and MM, as seen in regular social media postings, and has supported PS as recently as his recent personal "outing". It seems from social media that SS was a friend of MM's family - having socialised with them on family occasions. MM certainly appeared in photos to look up to him as a role model.
*PS became a patron of the theatre and regularly attended and supported them. The theatre's closed down last year and its web page has been closed down after the "revelation".
*PS has been Snapchatting teenagers/young men for some years, illustrating a pattern a behaviour with a prevalence towards young looking guys. His language and behaviour shows a concern because he is addressing young boys/men in youthful vernacular, not what would be expected of a middle aged man, and the use and promotion of the use of alcohol during these Snapchats. Grooming language and/or behaviour?!?!
*Yes, MM could be considered by adults as a precocious, irritating teenage oik (which, tbh as a mother of four, I can honestly say a lot of teenagers can be perceived this way) who wanted to make his way in the "wonderful" world of showbiz - but that in no way excuses older, richer and more influential men like PS from taking advantage of much, much younger adoring, desperate and vulnerable children/young people and using them for their own personal sexual gratification, and then possibly casting them aside once they lose their innocent looks and charming boyishness. That's called grooming and exploitation whichever way you look at it!
*In addition, MM is still a young guy. It's entirely possible that his potential in acting or a career in television has been robbed from him by all this and by the adults who should have been giving him proper guidance and protection right back at stage school and at ITV. Shame on them.
*Rumours are rife that both PS and HW partake in the use of "Columbian Marching Powder" which may account for some of their manic "under the influence" behaviour at times, as well as possibly their weight control and their reported unpleasant manner towards other people in more menial/less public positions. Obviously, other "stars" use and misuse non prescription drugs as well. What rankles is the presentation and profit they make from their reputations that these people are clean living, and that they get to be "outraged and indignant" towards other poor people appearing on their programmes that struggle with their issues without the benefit of the "smokescreen" of hypocrisy, big finance and corporate protection that these people have. It's sickening, hypocritical and manipulation of us the general public.
*Almost all the presenters at ITV are represented and aggressively promoted by the same company JG Media, which coincidentally employs many of the adult children of said "stars", and which explains why we see them on so many programmes and in so many adverts ad nauseum. This is like a "mafia" that runs a protection around them to prevent "unpleasant" and negative stories appearing in the press whilst promoting positive and, as we have seen with the the big "reveal", basically fictional stories. This organisation seems not only to run their lives/relationships but also the public's, because it controls the information we get access to and thereby decisions we may make. There is obviously big money in this. Just how much and how far are they willing to go - or have gone - to protect their sources of income?
• This all started last July with a private tweet stating PS had a flat in London where he took young guys and that he had been in a relationship with MM who was a runner on TM. This tweet was made public after PS made his public "outing" on 7/2/20, but the timeline confirms the date of original post.
*PS is gay, apparently a fact known in showbiz circles over the last 30 years. The public, in the main, doesn't care about his sexuality (no homophobia here) - the issue that upsets everyone are the blatant attempts by him, his cohorts and the media corporations backing him to manipulate the public into believing this is a recent personal "discovery" or "revelation", despite its being known in the "business" - both television and journalism - for years. I repeat, No one cares that he's gay. They care about being lied to and being manipulated, particularly if this is any part of an attempt to cover up any other potentially more damaging (perhaps even illegal as well as immoral/unethical) stories...
* Another concern is that this "revelation" may or may not be in connection with the rumours of PS being intimate with a much younger (teenage) person, MM, who he may have met at a theatre group he is patron of when MM was aged @ 10/11yrs. He also "friended" MM on social media when he was 15 and then "mentored" him through "menial" runner work at TM for a number of years after MM had crowdfunded £500 for a move to London as a very young teenage adult. MM was then "promoted" to personal assistant as well as runner for PS & HW before being moved over to LW in the summer of 2019 after an alleged falling out or break up with PS. MM was apparently sacked by ITV last week, just before the big"reveal". MM's Twitter and media accounts, alongside the web page of theatre he attended as a youngster, have disappeared. Not concerning or worrying at all?!?!
*SS (no relation to PS, surname coincidentally the same) ran the 2 Faced theatre that MM attended. SS was a child performer, with PS and has remained friends with him, occasionally appearing on stage with him, on ITV shows and on the cruise liners promoted by PS and his family. Coincidentally, JS also promoted the same cruise liners. SS has socialised with PS and MM, as seen in regular social media postings, and has supported PS as recently as his recent personal "outing". It seems from social media that SS was a friend of MM's family - having socialised with them on family occasions. MM certainly appeared in photos to look up to him as a role model.
*PS became a patron of the theatre and regularly attended and supported them. The theatre's closed down last year and its web page has been closed down after the "revelation".
*PS has been Snapchatting teenagers/young men for some years, illustrating a pattern a behaviour with a prevalence towards young looking guys. His language and behaviour shows a concern because he is addressing young boys/men in youthful vernacular, not what would be expected of a middle aged man, and the use and promotion of the use of alcohol during these Snapchats. Grooming language and/or behaviour?!?!
*Yes, MM could be considered by adults as a precocious, irritating teenage oik (which, tbh as a mother of four, I can honestly say a lot of teenagers can be perceived this way) who wanted to make his way in the "wonderful" world of showbiz - but that in no way excuses older, richer and more influential men like PS from taking advantage of much, much younger adoring, desperate and vulnerable children/young people and using them for their own personal sexual gratification, and then possibly casting them aside once they lose their innocent looks and charming boyishness. That's called grooming and exploitation whichever way you look at it!
*In addition, MM is still a young guy. It's entirely possible that his potential in acting or a career in television has been robbed from him by all this and by the adults who should have been giving him proper guidance and protection right back at stage school and at ITV. Shame on them.
*Rumours are rife that both PS and HW partake in the use of "Columbian Marching Powder" which may account for some of their manic "under the influence" behaviour at times, as well as possibly their weight control and their reported unpleasant manner towards other people in more menial/less public positions. Obviously, other "stars" use and misuse non prescription drugs as well. What rankles is the presentation and profit they make from their reputations that these people are clean living, and that they get to be "outraged and indignant" towards other poor people appearing on their programmes that struggle with their issues without the benefit of the "smokescreen" of hypocrisy, big finance and corporate protection that these people have. It's sickening, hypocritical and manipulation of us the general public.
*Almost all the presenters at ITV are represented and aggressively promoted by the same company JG Media, which coincidentally employs many of the adult children of said "stars", and which explains why we see them on so many programmes and in so many adverts ad nauseum. This is like a "mafia" that runs a protection around them to prevent "unpleasant" and negative stories appearing in the press whilst promoting positive and, as we have seen with the the big "reveal", basically fictional stories. This organisation seems not only to run their lives/relationships but also the public's, because it controls the information we get access to and thereby decisions we may make. There is obviously big money in this. Just how much and how far are they willing to go - or have gone - to protect their sources of income?
ITV news coverage choose to put up this message (along with Ant and Dec and Laura Whitmore) in the coverage of Caroline Flack’s death
Not sure why you quoted me because if you look at my previous posts you will see I am a proud member of the LGBT community and have never accused him of paedophilia or having HIV.
I do however believe he is a workplace bully (especially towards women) and has most likely abused his position of power to conduct an improper workplace relationship with a much younger, vulnerable person who seems to have been cast aside without a second thought for his welfare.
Saw something on here regarding their company and Stephanie was titled MS why not Mrs. Also found this why wouldn't they have posted a wedding picture, I've never seen one. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-wife-stephanie-lowe-wedding-anniversary/amp/
Yes sorry, I dont think it was you i was replying to at all
maybe Holly’s husband and Phil are special friends?!
Yes your right only the coroner can issue the death certificate ..if drugs toxicology, if hanging plain to see and still a post mortem is needed ..there could be other factors notes, text messages that have unofficially confirmed it to be suicide ...That's why her family and lawyer have released the cause of death so early, wouldn't make any sense if foul play were suspected...
From what I see on Twitter, Users are combining the two death of Caroline Flack and Good Morning PS which is interesting as it's going to reach different people. Also going to be harder to get deleted. I think the Hoover Boy video is interesting if he is like that on screen what's he like off.
Many women (myself included) use Ms instead of Miss when unmarried, or Mrs when married, as the female equivalent of Mr. I’ve never understood why a woman’s marital status should be apparent from her title when a man’s isn’t.
I have a very vivid imagination ..I love nothing more than a good "who dunnit" but to suggest murder is stretching it to far in this instance..
Much as I smile at some crazy theories, I do like to have some sort of factual foundation to base them on and some of them are getting a bit ridiculous..sorry, but just my opinion....Not sure if it's because it's Saturday night or some people just like to let their imaginings grow arms and legs!
Accusing people of murder and mentions of a "lesbian sex ring" and now HW and Steph getting it on...c'mon now!!
Accusing people of murder and mentions of a "lesbian sex ring" and now HW and Steph getting it on...c'mon now!!
I think that this threads are starting to enter the realms of the ridiculous, we need to get back to what is likely truthful and not get carried away
I think David Icke may be missing a few people from his lizard site.
Let's leave the wild conspiracy theories, from a small minority, going forward
Let's leave the wild conspiracy theories, from a small minority, going forward
So true, just like women in our patriarchal culture are supposed to take the husband's name when they get married, especially considering the woman is the one who gives birth to the children, it makes more sense for the mother's name to be carried forward (or at least both). But that's another topic for another time
Much as I would like to believe that simplistic narrative, it doesn't explain why there was a need for the rushed coming out interview and also why much of the evidence of Steph being a lesbian has been brushed under the carpet. We need to carry on investigating.
Ive noticed that his We Buy Any Car ads have been on a lot more recently, or at least it feels like they have. I think they decided to capitalize on his current "popularity"
Even though I'm not keen on him, hearing his voice takes me back to my childhood. Its a massive shame to find out that hes been such a head.
Even though I'm not keen on him, hearing his voice takes me back to my childhood. Its a massive shame to find out that hes been such a head.
Well said, Atomic Blonde! We did both names in the end as no way was I just going to take hisSo true, just like women in our patriarchal culture are supposed to take the husband's name when they get married, especially considering the woman is the one who gives birth to the children, it makes more sense for the mother's name to be carried forward (or at least both). But that's another topic for another time
Let’s hope there’s some kind of investigation at ITV now....surely?!
I think there’s so much more to come out yet.
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