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In reply to an old post on last thread regarding John Leslie......

I know JL, or did years ago and was part of his social scene back in the day when it all kicked off for him. Friday nights were legendary at his house....was he a predator? No. A sexual abuser? No. He was a young man in the public eye who literally had fame hungry girls throwing themselves at his feet everywhere we went. He was nothing more than a bit of a playboy, could get a bit boisterous after a night out and who threw himself into that lifestyle. But the real JL was an extremely generous nice guy, would give you the shirt off his back and was actually quite shy and a little awkward! The way he has been vilified and his life ruined (and that of his extremely lovely parents) is tragic. He opened up his house with generosity , got a bit carried away in the lifestyle but there was nothing sinister at all, and I was around him a lot. Don’t believe everything you read peeps! Although saying that, I do have a diff vibe from PS......
I find it highly suspicious that you made a new account and your first post is not to talk about the thread topic but to tell everyone what a wonderful guy John Leslie is and how he is completely innocent. This after several people on here have said they have seen him sexually harass young women even in public and one poster says they were harassed themselves.

Ulrika Johnsonn said she was raped by him when 19 (although didn't press charges), then 3 other women came forward in 2003 so allege rape and sexual assault. He was also charged with the sexual assault by another woman in 2019 for which he is due to stand trial in march 2020. Are you calling all these women liars?

So far he hasn't been spend any time in jail, but that says more about the justice system that routinely fails rape victims and has the lowest conviction rate of any crime.

The fact you dismiss his victims as 'fame hungry girls throwing themselves at him' is classic victim blaming and one of the reasons women (and men) are often scared to speak up. People like you support rape culture which enables the perpetrators to get away with their crimes.

We must believe and support the victims when they come forward. You should be ashamed of your comment.
 
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Moomoomoo

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In reply to an old post on last thread regarding John Leslie......

I know JL, or did years ago and was part of his social scene back in the day when it all kicked off for him. Friday nights were legendary at his house....was he a predator? No. A sexual abuser? No. He was a young man in the public eye who literally had fame hungry girls throwing themselves at his feet everywhere we went. He was nothing more than a bit of a playboy, could get a bit boisterous after a night out and who threw himself into that lifestyle. But the real JL was an extremely generous nice guy, would give you the shirt off his back and was actually quite shy and a little awkward! The way he has been vilified and his life ruined (and that of his extremely lovely parents) is tragic. He opened up his house with generosity , got a bit carried away in the lifestyle but there was nothing sinister at all, and I was around him a lot. Don’t believe everything you read peeps! Although saying that, I do have a diff vibe from PS......
 
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New thread, there wasn't any good suggestion with over 10 votes so I've made a title that matches what people are googling so more will find it. :)

All the latest we know

Many think this blind is about the dancing on Ice presenter

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What makes this blind item particularly interesting is that it is almost a perfect combination of two stories we told you in the past!

One story was about a famous, older actor who allegedly preyed on young men.

We’ll call him Victor.

You know Victor from his many years in the movies, in the theater, and on TV.

In a case of interesting timing, Victor came out as gay just as some assault charges were filed against him. Perhaps Victor hoped that sudden public disclosure of his sexual preference after so many years of living in the closet would mitigate the charges made against him?

Another story we told you was about a different famous actor who leveraged his position as an acting teacher to groom and assault his young, naive students.

We’ll call him Sleazy.

Sleazy is both a TV and movie actor.

In another case of interesting timing, Sleazy shut down his school just as those charges were about to be filed. Perhaps Sleazy hoped that closing the school would scatter and discourage current and former students from filing charges against him?

If you put those two situations together, you will see a remarkable similarity to an exclusive new story we have for you.

Allow us to be the first to tell you that there is going to be a big story breaking in the next couple of months.

The story involves a beloved older man who has been on TV for many years.

We’ll call him Icy.

There are three stages to this story.

The first is that Icy suddenly comes out as gay.

The second is that Icy’s “school” closes down.

The third is that the young students that Icy groomed and assaulted over the years come forward and sue him.

We have more details to share, but we want to be sensitive to those victims as they prepare their cases against Icy.

So, if you are one of those cheering Icy on for his bravery in coming out, you might want to hold off on that applause!

Because Icy is no gentleman. He is a combination of Victor and Sleazy. And his career and life will soon be on very thin ice…

Similar: The Hunting Ground
 
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Kayles1986

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Well I would like a round of applause please! It’s takem me 8 threads but I’m finally up to date 🙌🏻 Can’t remember when I last fed the kids or had a wash but I’m up to date!
 
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I've been with you since Thread 1 (the titles alone have been incredible), but this is the first time I've posted. My friend has had an update from her friend who works on another daytime ITV show and it seems that where we've got to is pretty much what the talk is around ITV too, suggesting we're not far off the mark!

So the source said:

Phil does have a separate home in London for his 2nd life. The source had heard this years ago (and about Holly and the rest of the James Grant management posse all being coke heads) but hadn't wanted to beliive it as they've always wanted to like Phil and Holly.

Matt McGreevy was a runner at This Morning but wanted to move onto other things. Phil didn't want this as he seemed to really like Matt, so requested Matt to be his Personal Assistant AND a runner, and made it so that Matt worked on every show Phil worked on. (The source also said that Matt strutted about like he owned the place after this)

Matt and Phil had a secret relationship. The source doesn't know what then happened but the talk around ITV is that Matt got screwed over (!) and he decided to sell his story. Which then got shelves when Phil found out and agreed to do a 'Tell All' exclusive instead.

On the day of Phil's announcement, someone in the source's team, asked Matt what he knew about Phil and he said "I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT" and then not long after his name started to get out and so his boss at Loose Women gave him time off as he started being hounded by press and everyone he comes into contact with

AND...Phil's been grooming 15 year old boys and giving out his personal email address to them, offering them work experience on This Morning which she stated no other celebs she's worked with would EVER do.

The Source also said that it's well known that Dan Wootten hates Phil, and that the support is just for show.

The talk at ITV is that now they expect his lovers to all try and sell stories but they aren't sure what NDAs would have been signed by Phil's lovers or what injunction Phil has got as, like us, they can't work out why no press are reporting on the rumours

And that's all! I do think the sad Caroline Flack news may mean this all takes longer to come out as the press will be warned about not 'hounding' Phil or anyone else on this topic. And I agree with that, but I strongly believe that the truth needs to come out on this one.
 
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Given recent discussion about invitees to the NTAs, I had to register to post this because I haven’t seen it here before.

This Morning winning Best Daytime Show at the NTAs in 2018:



Virtually every person on stage appears to be part of the on-screen This Morning team, apart from the two main bosses directly behind PS and HW, a gatecrashing Bradley Walsh and... MM! Slap bang in the centre directly behind Ruth and Holly throughout the whole speech. I can’t see him sitting with the rest of the TM team when they’re announced as winners but he suddenly appears on stage and positions himself right in the centre. What’s he doing there? Did he have a regular ticket and decide to rush up on stage when TM won? Why would a random runner be part of this select group representing TM on stage? Make what you will of the body language between PS and MM towards the end.
 
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HollyGolightly

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Amanda Holden has posted: "Why was she not shown the same level of,consideration, protection ,warmth and importance as other artists in our industry who have struggled recently?" Could this be about PS?

 
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lamaitresse

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The tone in which Christopher Spivey writes turns me off. There's no need for him to use terms such as "turd burglar" - takes away from the seriousness of what he's alleging and dilutes the message. He probably thinks it's humorous but it doesn't read that way to me.
 
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I recently heard the following - apols if already someone already posted....
Phillip Schofield has a super injunction against all the UK media. No one is permitted to mention This Morning Phillip Schofield and Matt McGreevy together. He is paying £30k A WEEK to Phill Hall crisis management. They have a team working 24 hours monitoring social media and removing any mentions of the above. And apparently Matt McGreevy got really drunk at the NTAs and stormed into the This Morning Box and said he had an announcement to make. Phillip went white and security dragged Matt out kicking and screaming.
 
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I think David Icke may be missing a few people from his lizard site.

Let's leave the wild conspiracy theories, from a small minority, going forward :)
 
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In reply to an old post on last thread regarding John Leslie......

I know JL, or did years ago and was part of his social scene back in the day when it all kicked off for him. Friday nights were legendary at his house....was he a predator? No. A sexual abuser? No. He was a young man in the public eye who literally had fame hungry girls throwing themselves at his feet everywhere we went. He was nothing more than a bit of a playboy, could get a bit boisterous after a night out and who threw himself into that lifestyle. But the real JL was an extremely generous nice guy, would give you the shirt off his back and was actually quite shy and a little awkward! The way he has been vilified and his life ruined (and that of his extremely lovely parents) is tragic. He opened up his house with generosity , got a bit carried away in the lifestyle but there was nothing sinister at all, and I was around him a lot. Don’t believe everything you read peeps! Although saying that, I do have a diff vibe from PS......
He was extremely inappropriate and predatory with me on numerous occasions. I had to start actively avoiding him as I was scared to be alone with him. He was more than twice my age as well. Don't diminish others' experiences of him just because yours differ.
 
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MrsJoeyMac

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Hi newbie here!

I wasn't going to post but after finally finished reading this thread & unfortunately catching the first few minutes of DOI I need to vent!!!!

ITV as an organisation are an utter bloody disgrace!!! It's so incestuous that any new shows are given to the same old crew that are very chummy & lovey-dovey with each other. (Very surprised Joel Dommett got The Mask gig!!) I stopped watching this sorry shower of shite (PS, HW, A&D etc) a long time ago. Biggest bunch of fake tossers ever!!!

Secondly ITV have a cheek to promote their so called mental health campaign when they clearly are not looking after folk. My guess is it's a box ticking exercise to show they "care". If they did then perhaps someone may have picked up on CF & the others much sooner.

As for the main man himself let's not delude ourselves that he is "brave". Don't see him running into a burning building or engaging with a terrorist do you?? Trying admitting you are gay in a country where you have a high chance of being killed simply because you love the same sex. Now that's brave!!

The only reason Phil the Fud has come clean is because he's been made to. He's been caught out big time & is now trying to hide behind the LGBTQ community hoping in the same way KS probably thought & be protected which he hasn't.

And as for the water works at the start of DOI........Jesus give me bloody strength!!!!!! Within seconds the tears dried up & out came the smiles but hey job done, look at all those lovely headlines in the papers showing how "caring" Phil the Fud & HW are!!!

Now he will go on to play the mental health card in to muster sympathy & wave it when the shit hits the fan!!!

ps never thought I'd see the day when I'd agree with Katie Hopkins & Jodie Marsh!! But I despise Phil the Fud even more......
 
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Mrlazybones

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Has anyone seen Katie Pipers Instagram story referencing Caroline flack. She says something along the lines of the very same people who hung her out to dry will be the ones gushing about her today and protecting someone in the industry. 🤔 I wonder who she means
 
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Focusing on PS, I have updated & edited my post 15/2/20 for the benefit of newcomers, apologies for repetitions of earlier info and any missed out for those who've been with the thread quite a while...

• This all started last July with a private tweet stating PS had a flat in London where he took young guys and that he had been in a relationship with MM who was a runner on TM. This tweet was made public after PS made his public "outing" on 7/2/20, but the timeline confirms the date of original post.

*PS is gay, apparently a fact known in showbiz circles over the last 30 years. The public, in the main, doesn't care about his sexuality (no homophobia here) - the issue that upsets everyone are the blatant attempts by him, his cohorts and the media corporations backing him to manipulate the public into believing this is a recent personal "discovery" or "revelation", despite its being known in the "business" - both television and journalism - for years. I repeat, No one cares that he's gay. They care about being lied to and being manipulated, particularly if this is any part of an attempt to cover up any other potentially more damaging (perhaps even illegal as well as immoral/unethical) stories...

* Another concern is that this "revelation" may or may not be in connection with the rumours of PS being intimate with a much younger (teenage) person, MM, who he may have met at a theatre group he is patron of when MM was aged @ 10/11yrs. He also "friended" MM on social media when he was 15 and then "mentored" him through "menial" runner work at TM for a number of years after MM had crowdfunded £500 for a move to London as a very young teenage adult. MM was then "promoted" to personal assistant as well as runner for PS & HW before being moved over to LW in the summer of 2019 after an alleged falling out or break up with PS. MM was apparently sacked by ITV last week, just before the big"reveal". MM's Twitter and media accounts, alongside the web page of theatre he attended as a youngster, have disappeared. Not concerning or worrying at all?!?!

*SS (no relation to PS, surname coincidentally the same) ran the 2 Faced theatre that MM attended. SS was a child performer, with PS and has remained friends with him, occasionally appearing on stage with him, on ITV shows and on the cruise liners promoted by PS and his family. Coincidentally, JS also promoted the same cruise liners. SS has socialised with PS and MM, as seen in regular social media postings, and has supported PS as recently as his recent personal "outing". It seems from social media that SS was a friend of MM's family - having socialised with them on family occasions. MM certainly appeared in photos to look up to him as a role model.


*PS became a patron of the theatre and regularly attended and supported them. The theatre's closed down last year and its web page has been closed down after the "revelation".

*PS has been Snapchatting teenagers/young men for some years, illustrating a pattern a behaviour with a prevalence towards young looking guys. His language and behaviour shows a concern because he is addressing young boys/men in youthful vernacular, not what would be expected of a middle aged man, and the use and promotion of the use of alcohol during these Snapchats. Grooming language and/or behaviour?!?!

*Yes, MM could be considered by adults as a precocious, irritating teenage oik (which, tbh as a mother of four, I can honestly say a lot of teenagers can be perceived this way) who wanted to make his way in the "wonderful" world of showbiz - but that in no way excuses older, richer and more influential men like PS from taking advantage of much, much younger adoring, desperate and vulnerable children/young people and using them for their own personal sexual gratification, and then possibly casting them aside once they lose their innocent looks and charming boyishness. That's called grooming and exploitation whichever way you look at it!

*In addition, MM is still a young guy. It's entirely possible that his potential in acting or a career in television has been robbed from him by all this and by the adults who should have been giving him proper guidance and protection right back at stage school and at ITV. Shame on them.

*Rumours are rife that both PS and HW partake in the use of "Columbian Marching Powder" which may account for some of their manic "under the influence" behaviour at times, as well as possibly their weight control and their reported unpleasant manner towards other people in more menial/less public positions. Obviously, other "stars" use and misuse non prescription drugs as well. What rankles is the presentation and profit they make from their reputations that these people are clean living, and that they get to be "outraged and indignant" towards other poor people appearing on their programmes that struggle with their issues without the benefit of the "smokescreen" of hypocrisy, big finance and corporate protection that these people have. It's sickening, hypocritical and manipulation of us the general public.

*Almost all the presenters at ITV are represented and aggressively promoted by the same company JG Media, which coincidentally employs many of the adult children of said "stars", and which explains why we see them on so many programmes and in so many adverts ad nauseum. This is like a "mafia" that runs a protection around them to prevent "unpleasant" and negative stories appearing in the press whilst promoting positive and, as we have seen with the the big "reveal", basically fictional stories. This organisation seems not only to run their lives/relationships but also the public's, because it controls the information we get access to and thereby decisions we may make. There is obviously big money in this. Just how much and how far are they willing to go - or have gone - to protect their sources of income?
 
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