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Saturn.

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The cover up has worked.

For the time being, I agree. But knowing that PS is following the comments on here at least means he has less time for his more odious online activities.

If it wasn't for the prevailing circumstances, it would be a case of 'Lock up your sons' during the Easter break. Still best to have 'The Schofield chat' with them though. Whether this has changed his ways short or long-term, he will live the rest of his life knowing that the truth could come out at any time.
 
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Invisiblewriter

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I think Scofe is turning into a loose cannon - he is pushing the boundaries to see how far he can go with the comments on TM and the media. The tide is definitely turning against him
 
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Team JCM

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Pleasant or not I still find it a bit strange that two girls in their 20's would go on trips to Paris etc with their parents. If they are supporting Steph why is he there?
Because they are all protecting their cash cow.
 
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MelanieJo555

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Ha thankyou! The only slight shock there was that Dec was a smack head aswell. What kind of weirdos are these people that they choose to live like this? They are all so loaded now they could disappear off & live whatever life they want.
I suppose they were in the industry from such a young age too that they are probably just very institutionalised or whatever the word is. It's just a horrible fake, sinister, weird world indeed. You don't end up addicts for no reason and I dread to think what they've gone through too.
 
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Shazzyshizzle

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Can anyone else see the tension between Phil & Holly, her smile is so forced. I'm so glad she overruled him and let that lady play he was raging!
 
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JimBob0346

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He may have been employed by ITV as a freelancer, rather than on the staff.
In which case, he can cherry pick when he works after the staff hours have been allocated and if he no longer needs regular work to pay his bills because he's had some hush money....
Indeed. Though coincidence he’s away after Phil comes out. I’m a freelancer myself but for his sort of role in the office it would make sense he’s offered a contract. Especially if he was there for years before all this. He must have had some money thrown at him somehow because what 20 something year old who’s a Prod Sec afford to take time off and visit LA and not worry about work?
 
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JimBob0346

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Let’s hope we don’t end up with a Caroline flack situation here. So much speculation without actual proof of any wrong doing ? If it is proven then so be it but until then remember “be kind”
I absolutely hear you! 100% though do you see any members of the press picking apart Schofe's looks, his outfits or who he's sleeping with? Do you see the constant barrage of shit from the tabloids that would grind someone down until they're broken? Does he have the emergency services and police force tipping off the press about his arrest that he'd openly say he'll kill himself? I don't think so.

I have made the same comparison before though and I have thought along the same lines. But these two situations are NOT the same whatsoever. There is a lot at play here, a lot of potentially dangerous situations that 'could' go all the way up to the abuse like Saville carried out on many victims. What's for certain is that Schofe used his power and position to get Matthew on side. No doubt in my mind that Simon Schofield was a pawn in that abuse of power and that he was then drawn into the hands of Schofe who then started to date him.

My theory is that Schofe grew tired of Matt getting older, didn't like that he put on weight and ended it abruptly. Then treated Matt differently at work. Leaving Ruth Langsford to fight his corner (see claims of mistreatment and bullying in the press from Nov/Dec 2019 which features Ruth speaking out against Schofe - https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...hofield-Ruth-Langford-forced-speak-other.html) plus see Amanda Holden that week tweeting an image that says "A lot more goes on behind the scenes than you know" (or something to that effect)

I won't call the guy names. I won't get personal to the point I attack him and I certainly wouldn't be unkind. Though I will continue to speculate with the evidence I have in front of me. Call me naive for doing so but if you look at everything on this forum as a collective, it soon starts to paint a not so pleasant picture. Bearing in mind a lot of historical posts on all's concerned socials have now been deleted! So it remains a mystery. Though most of us have it cracked. Including Byline Investigates! Plus I'm in touch with a press insider and we talk on and off about this. They have confirmed that the press won't go anywhere near the story as it's too hot! (super injunction)!

U cant come out in the way PS did on tv and then just pretend all is well. I imagine PS is tormented by all of this. He got "lucky" as his revelation was overshadowed by caroline flacks sad death and now the virus. He must be thinking when is this all going to blow up again. There is 0 chance that coming out the way he did was his choice. His hand was forced no doubt about it.
He was forced 100% - if you haven't seen this, take a look https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...g-ITV-Phillip-Schofield-came-gay-live-TV.html

Don't forget, it wasn't Phillip & Holly's day to present (it was a Friday) and they cancelled all their guests for the Friday morning on the Thursday night. They got Holly & Phil on the sofa and sold it in a heartfelt way on the bounce in the hope they'd fool the nation. Meanwhile Matthew McGreevy (his now ex lover/bf etc) flees London amidst the drama and chaos to head home to his family in South Manchester. Deletes all his socials or at least changes the name on said socials to his nickname 'Manny'. Takes down his show reel that features Schofe (though it can still be found on his agencies website) He then ends up in County Down, Ireland for a couple of days before heading to LA with his Dad to visit his older Sister who's an international performer / dancer and is well off. And to this date he's still out there getting away from life btw!

The Sun essentially outed him by making him out himself. They got the exclusive stories that weekend and that can only mean one thing - Schofe gave them the exclusive in exchange for not reporting about Matt to buy him time before he could get lawyers on the case to hush it all up! Then on that very same day loads of ITV faces/celebs tweet in support Schofe in his efforts for coming out to sew the seed of the story, encouraging all the gays of the world to support him in the 'brave and heartwarming' act he took. Despite the world not really knowing what he's been up to.

Joan Collins on GMB was shut down when she brought it up (see https://www.standard.co.uk/stayingi...-joan-collins-phillip-schofield-a4358351.html.) as she and other showbiz veterans who have been around the block a few times ALWAYS knew that he was gay including former colleagues and performers of his who have tweeted saying they always knew. But it was never spoken about because it didn't matter. Hell even his wife probs knew! Also Perez Hilton on GMB tried to press the issue by saying he's heard rumours of inappropriateness and was the only celeb brave enough to speak out on video about it after his time on the show. But he was shut down on TV too. The live feed showed Piers shutting down the conversation, but on catch up they've edited it to show Kelly interrupting him saying that's not what they're there to discuss.
 
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JimBob0346

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Someone kindly just sent this through. Potentially another man was on the scene - a bit of a hunk as well - I notice Matt is really working hard to lose weight and get fit and I think he’s got a bit of a complex surrounding his body. I wonder if it’s got anything to do with this mystery guy. How many more were there that he spent time out in public with. It was always said by my friend in the press that he ‘has the boys over to his flat in Southwark’ but didn’t think he’d be so bold as to go out in public with others. At least with Matt they worked together.

 
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JenniferJuniper

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I got two warning emails from the Daily Mail yesterday because I made a couple of unflattering comments about a member of the royal family and yet somebody got away with posting this about PS ...

'Schofield judging people while simultaneously taking it up the 5H! 7er! '
 
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Cosmo69

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All his legal and PR teams have given him is the equivalent of a temporary lockdown from a virus. Once they move on, the gossip will come back and he'll just have to hope that the intensity doesn't return. And it probably won't, until just one tabloid publishes one story, and then all that money and effort will have been wasted.

And anyway, his ex-mate MM - he'll remain a ticking time bomb. He'll be Schofe's own version of Banquo's ghost, or Norman Scott. The bloke is poor at numerous different skills, he won't become the star or the broadcasting legend that he appears to think he has the talent to become. And one day he'll realise that, and then he'll sit down and think: 'Now what?' And the 'now what' will be the only chance he has left of acquiring even a scintilla of the fame he craves: he'll have to talk about Schofe.
 
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MelanieJo555

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I think people need to remember that when schofe became famous being gay was not classed as “normal” like it is now. Thankfully now you can be whatever you want to be but nobody should be forced to “come out” if Dec is gay (I don’t think so) so what, at the end of the day what has sexuality got to do with anything? It doesn’t define you. Rylan is making money because he’s good at his job not because he’s “out” 🙄
It's more the hypocrisy as has been said - berating other people for minor things they do in their private lives whilst at the same time he was doing potentially very inappropriate things himself, if rumours are to be believed. That is clear if you read what has been said here.

And colluding with the press to maintain a certain image and to cover up what is really going on.

In my view that's massive fraud. I'm not a fan of any of these people, but they have genuine fans that lap up this BS.

I remember in the 80s a lot of musicians were very openly gay and ever since then we seem to have gone backwards in many ways on this issue, and more often than not it is the media itself perpetuating homophobia.
 
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MelanieJo555

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What we do know is that PS met MM when he was a child and attended The 2 faced theatre company, set up by Simon Schofield, of which PS was a patron. PS friended him on twitter (mid teens) and then a few years later he was working at TM (involved with TM from aged 18).

We also know that whatever went down, it all ended in tears because heaven and earth had to be moved to stop MM telling his story.

That's what we DO know.

(Also I don't buy the idea that wronged people / victims that accept a financial settlement 'come off the worst' - these things are never as easy as 'they took the money and ran'. There will be plenty of bullying and trauma and gaslighting and enablers along the way. Just need to use our imagination about what people in powerful positions and their apologists are capable of.)
 
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MelanieJo555

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Let’s hope we don’t end up with a Caroline flack situation here. So much speculation without actual proof of any wrong doing ? If it is proven then so be it but until then remember “be kind”
From everything we know so far, the two situations are totally different. Powerful elements were trying to distort what happened with CF and destroy her (immediate sacking by ITV, constant misinformation by the tabloids, labels of her being a domestic abuser, a photo sinisterly sold (by who?) to the papers showing blood on their bed, with the accompanying lie that it was her bf's blood when it was in fact her own blood, police giving salacious / misleading quotes, no urgent help given to her when she was in fact the one who was vulnerable on the night in question etc etc).

With PS the mounting evidence shows there is something that should be investigated (potentially by police, certainly by his employers) and yet instead, all the stops have been pulled out to cover this up and silence everyone and protect him. Media being allegedly gagged, PR consultancy allegedly doing damage limitation to the tune of £30K a week, full support of his employers, peers, and a now compliant media who never discuss PS without the 'brave' prefix. Hasn't lost any of his work or sponsorships (a new wine out with Waitrose - his rep is just fine apparently).

No comparison there, even remotely. Polar opposites in fact.

Don't forget what Katie Piper had to say too.
 

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LennyBriscoe

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I happened to catch that awful Spin to Win game and he was saying in his stupid smug voice something about people slagging the game off on Twitter and sneered something along the lines of

"Say what you want on Twitter, we don't care, we don't read them" laughing to himself with the blonde bimbo acting all giggly and faux shocked that he said it. 🙄🙄
Who is he trying to kid?! I reckon he spends a lot of alcohol-fuelled time searching Twitter for anything about him
 
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MelanieJo555

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its mad how non of the men he’s been with have sold a story
Newspapers are happy to collude with some celebs and throw others to the wolves. It all depends how powerful they / their management company are and whether they are tight with the media bosses. Most of what we read is complete rubbish - deals being done with fake / lesser stories printed to hide real stories. Watch 'Starsuckers' on youtube for more on this. It's hard for people to believe but this is how it works.

Just had a look at the mumsnet link not too sure what has gone round on there but I had to screenshot this. I love the name chocolate quilted shit pig 🤣🤣🤣
that's the best name I've ever heard 😂 😂 :ROFLMAO:

So was it just Caroline flack wasn’t with the same pr company that she wasn’t protected? Because love island was one of itvs biggest shows you’d have expected her to be protected
I didn't know much about her until after she died, at which point I quickly figured out she was a lovely person with a lot of integrity and good values. That sort of person doesn't seem to go down too well in that industry. That's why I don't think it's as straightforward as who pulls in the most money or ratings or whatever, cos she was hugely popular yet there was a definite agenda to destroy her.

Someone said watch out for the ones the papers vilify, cos they are likely to be the good ones and the ones the papers promote and protect are probably fake as hell with a basement full of skeletons. This is an industry that protects 'their own' and by 'their own' I mean the ones that seem to be arseholes in some way.
 
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TippleTopple

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PS looks much more sinister to me since confirming he was gay.

His management company seem to be doing a great job on making sure nothing is leaked on him. Surely not every dalliance was sealed with an NDA. Personally, I think NDA’s should be ripped up and protection given to anyone who speaks out. Look at what lawyers did for Weinstein. You’d think the laws in any country would make them illegal - especially as they are used in such a manner to cover up sexual harassment cases for example.
 
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Saturn.

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He thinks he's untouchable. Sooner or later things will tumble.

Completely unrelated, but recall Max Clifford displaying extraordinary arrogance right up until the end. This, after 'hiding in plain sight' for many years.


https://i.archive.is/oldest/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/29/article-0-1D6FB9B600000578-686_634x356.jpg



 
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