I've always been of the understanding that Dave and Neil Fitzmaurice wrote most of Phoenix Nights and then felt like PK took all the credit.Does anyone know what happened between him and Dave spikey? Such a shame the phoenix nights episodes are not more widely available
Yeah, that seems to have been what it was. Dave was interviewed once and more or less said it was mostly him and Neil who did the hard work while Peter came in at the end and 'tidied up' yet he got the praise and nominations while Dave and Neil were ignored. Another issue was they wanted to do a S3 or at least a Xmas special but he said nope and moved on to Max and Paddy. They kind of made up back in 2015 when they did the live show, but he has made a few digs at him in recent years which I can't blame if what he is saying is true.I've always been of the understanding that Dave and Neil Fitzmaurice wrote most of Phoenix Nights and then felt like PK took all the credit.
Certainly there was a lot of Dave Spikey's material in there that I recognised back to first hearing him on GMR when I was a teenager.
It must kill PK that most of the memorable stuff from Phoenix Nights wasn't his character - the thing that sticks in people's minds are things like Dave singing 'Black Bin Bags' in Asda.Yeah, that seems to have been what it was. Dave was interviewed once and more or less said it was mostly him and Neil who did the hard work while Peter came in at the end and 'tidied up' yet he got the praise and nominations while Dave and Neil were ignored. Another issue was they wanted to do a S3 or at least a Xmas special but he said nope and moved on to Max and Paddy. They kind of made up back in 2015 when they did the live show, but he has made a few digs at him in recent years which I can't blame if what he is saying is true.
Heavy duty black bin bags, bi, straight or benderIt must kill PK that most of the memorable stuff from Phoenix Nights wasn't his character - the thing that sticks in people's minds are things like Dave singing 'Black Bin Bags' in Asda.
It must kill PK that most of the memorable stuff from Phoenix Nights wasn't his character - the thing that sticks in people's minds are things like Dave singing 'Black Bin Bags' in Asda.
The fact it's known as "Peter kays" pheonix nights must sting too for Dave and NeilI've always been of the understanding that Dave and Neil Fitzmaurice wrote most of Phoenix Nights and then felt like PK took all the credit.
Certainly there was a lot of Dave Spikey's material in there that I recognised back to first hearing him on GMR when I was a teenager.
He did the same with Car Share. It was two other guys who came up with the idea and plot then went to Peter for help. By the time it went to air, it became Peter Kay's Car Share. Nearly every show he did has other writers helping him, but he takes the credit. The only show he did mostly himself apart from help by Paddy McGuiness was Max and Paddy which many think is his weakest work.The fact it's known as "Peter kays" pheonix nights must sting too for Dave and Neil
Both of them have had lots of other successes, I'm sure they're not short of a few bob. It was good to see Dave in Alma'a Not Normal last year. I've got loads of time for him, used to watch his stand up around Manchester when I was a student and he was absolutely brilliant.The fact it's known as "Peter kays" pheonix nights must sting too for Dave and Neil
Absolutely agree max and paddy was by far he's weakest workHe did the same with Car Share. It was two other guys who came up with the idea and plot then went to Peter for help. By the time it went to air, it became Peter Kay's Car Share. Nearly every show he did has other writers helping him, but he takes the credit. The only show he did mostly himself apart from help by Paddy McGuiness was Max and Paddy which many think is his weakest work.
I can confirm that I am neither of themI reckon Dave and Neil comment on this thread![]()
Yes, I'd forgotten Daniel Kitson - I lived in Edinburgh for many years and when he'd come up to the Fringe he'd often get asked about Phoenix Nights, he was pretty scathing about Peter Kay.I can't be bothered to find them, but there have been a fair few interviews with Neil Fitzmaurice about what Peter Kay is like and how he uses his legacy to make sure he is the only one that profits from it.....there was a fair bit on a recent Richard Herring interview....
Daniel Kitson who was in PNights hasn't got a good word to say about Peter Kay either.....
'Ere, d'ya remember Phoenix Nights? What were all tha' about?'
Have a little peak on dailymotion.I’ve searched high and low to get Phoenix Nights for my son to enjoy, it really is nowhere to be found! Such a shame it’s not available for new generations to enjoy
Sorry I missed that, but glad he's still working, he is a really good live act.Dave spikey has recently toured..gutted I only saw the dates after digging into this chat. He was very talented and I wish they still showed the phoenix nights now on TV