Libertines fans have always been a small but hardcore lot. I don't think the wider public is that interested in Pete - especially 20 years later. And that meeting with Louis won't change much.
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not-a-medical-Dr Jessica Taylor monetising the Russell Brand and David Walliams news is disgusting. She forced her vulnerable employees to sign an NDA to stop them whistle blowing. She threatened survivors of sexual abuse to sue them for “every single one of their assets” if they spoke up. She is one of the most dangerous people in the VAWG sector and does so much harm to women and girls.
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He is not an addict in recovery. Swapping heroin for alcohol just makes the addiction different - and whilst under the influence of alcohol any hope of discipline is out of the window.
It appears (from the documentary) that he is still using drugs as well as booze. Perhaps he is not partying and using heroin like he did, but he doesn’t look or sound like he in recovery at all.
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Also in the Theroux doc, Doherty starts talking about sugar when his addiction is mentioned. It really stood out to me that this is the sort of nonsense that addicts will talk about - to swerve any proper discussion and recovery. I’m sure that taking sugar in his tea is the least of his worries.
Often in addiction the partners / family etc are not really considered. They have the most miserable lives - constant worrying / trying to help the addict / find them when they go missing / live in fear of dealers coming for them / paying off dealers and having to constantly clear up.
I noticed the sadness in his wife’s eyes - no doubt she is doing all of the parenting for the baby. She had that sadness about her that partners of addicts often have.
It appears (from the documentary) that he is still using drugs as well as booze. Perhaps he is not partying and using heroin like he did, but he doesn’t look or sound like he in recovery at all.
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Also in the Theroux doc, Doherty starts talking about sugar when his addiction is mentioned. It really stood out to me that this is the sort of nonsense that addicts will talk about - to swerve any proper discussion and recovery. I’m sure that taking sugar in his tea is the least of his worries.
Often in addiction the partners / family etc are not really considered. They have the most miserable lives - constant worrying / trying to help the addict / find them when they go missing / live in fear of dealers coming for them / paying off dealers and having to constantly clear up.
I noticed the sadness in his wife’s eyes - no doubt she is doing all of the parenting for the baby. She had that sadness about her that partners of addicts often have.
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I didn't get the impression he was on class A drugs from the Louis doc...he's deffo addicted to drinking and is very unhealthy from that. I know he had a ketamine habit too so if he was using drugs it could be that, not like he seemed on it during filming, though it could have been small doses. (I don't count cannabis as drugs but that's just my own view) But ket/ weed/ drink would seem like a lesser evil to him maybe. His idea of "clean" is not banging up 3.5 grams of smack and smoking £200 rocks per day... so who flipping knows. You are right in that drinking excessively is not recovery. In his world, maybe different? I just feel bad for his daughter who will lose her dad undoubtedly when she's young.
That jumped out at me too. He’s obviously the kind of addict who will have an excuse or deflection for anything.
I wish I would have been in Camden during the Amy years. Although I dont know if I would have been better or worse for it...
I know someone who claims to have dated Barat during this time. She is still scarred from it and wont talk about it- I assume it is real and awful though
How did he go from all that sordid, low life squalor to the ‘glamour’ of dating Kate Moss?
Kate Moss was fascinated by seediness, until she ducked off back to her suite at Claridges come the end of the night.
Was she at least „old enough“?
Yeah I’m not sure he ended up at her level, she just came down to his temporarily because it was fashionable at the time to have a rockstar boyfriend
What’s the story with the marriage proposal- that part was weird?
Yeah why did he ask to stop filming at some point?
I think he was going to cry.
Agree. Addicts swop 1 sensation for another. That running into the freezing sea thing - that's about trying to feel something. If you spent 10, 15 years high, real life would seem muted and underwater.
He admitted as much that Katia is doing it all with the baby when he said Katia's doing a great job. Bet his other kids were thrilled with the throwaway comment of 'technically I've got 2 other kids'. Oh Peter ffs.
Those tequila shots before the gig didn't seem like a ritualistic celebratory have 1 with the boys thing. It seemed like quiet urgent need in order to be able to get out there. I think he's a real introvert naturally. Lots of drinkers are and we need the booze cocoon to be able to handle the cacophony of social engagement.
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I reckon he'd either messed around on her on tour or used again and got an ultimatum and said marry me as part of his grand gesture of change and that's why he got so emosh talking about it and wanted the camera off.
If you haven't seen the wedding pix click below. She's the cutest rock n roll bride. Why are French women so friggin cool.
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I feel sorry for her. Like so many women who’ve bagged the ultimate prize and married the rock star they’ve mooned after for years, it’s come at a really big price. She’s got him and got the baby but he’s sick, old before his time and still in active addiction. Now she has two people to care for.
On the younger side. But yes-thankfully.
I thought he came across terribly on the documentary. Really insincere and a pathological liar. At times, it was almost like he was trying to convince himself.
He clearly does none of the looking after his child and he is blatantly still taking drugs and drinking. I was alarmed when he bumped into that guy at his hotel who invited him to an afters party. He was clearly still up for taking anything and everything. No remorse for the murder of Michael.You couldn’t believe a word that came out of his mouth.
He clearly does none of the looking after his child and he is blatantly still taking drugs and drinking. I was alarmed when he bumped into that guy at his hotel who invited him to an afters party. He was clearly still up for taking anything and everything. No remorse for the murder of Michael.You couldn’t believe a word that came out of his mouth.
I didn't think he came off terribly, but not fantastic. And yeah, pretty cagey. But that's partly due to Louis and his increasingly rubbish interviewing skills.
I think in his defense, a lot of people must approach him offering him drugs, and it showed him seemingly declining. It must be very hard to avoid it if people are constantly seeing you and thinking you want to do class As. That's partly why I think he managed to get off the gear in rural France.
I'm not aware of Michael, was this another person who died in his company? I know there was a girl called Robin. I knew Mark Blanco and that whole thing was awful. He is covering for the person that chucked him over as I've said up-thread.
I know what you mean fully about the baby. I bet he doesn't do any of the day to day care, and he was drunk throughout the doc which isn't great.
It's really hard to know how to feel about him as it gives me memories of my past which are weird.