Pete Doherty

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I always used to really like John, he seemed really sweet. I hope that's definitely the case as you just never can tell 😭
My experience of John was absolutely lovely, I'd say you have a good sense of character! But in fact, in a way they all were lovely in the early days of 2002.
My friends and I were young at the time and the Libs always kept their distance in a romantic/sexual way. They were also very kind and talked to us with respect and made us feel included in a friendly way. When Peter took to crack it was a sad day for all.
Of course, I can only speak from my own experience.
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I always used to really like John, he seemed really sweet. I hope that's definitely the case as you just never can tell 😭
My experience of John was absolutely lovely, I'd say you have a good sense of character! But in fact, in a way they all were lovely in the early days of 2002.
My friends and I were young at the time and the Libs always kept their distance in a romantic/sexual way. They were also very kind and talked to us with respect and made us feel included in a friendly way. When Peter took to crack it was a sad day for all.
Of course, I can only speak from my own experience.
 
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Apologies if shared before but a good article with plenty of detail.
"And is it merely a macabre coincidence that Mr Blanco was about to portray a character in a play who falls to his death from a fourth floor?" The play... "Accidental Death of an Anarchist."

Oeeerrr!!
 
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I don't think that CDAN story is about Pete Doherty, personally.

But one thing I do know for sure is his habit of doing a runner when young female fans are OD'ing after taking smack with him.
 
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a blind item that alleged Pete had killed numerous women by injecting them with more heroin when they were already passed out
Maybe it's different among the rich - which I don't know that Pete even was - but I've never heard of any junky who would waste a taste on someone unconscious just for the lols. I mean what would the point have been? Unless he actively wanted to try to kill them, and why would he have done that? If they were passed out he could have smothered them or something.

In short, Pete would sensibly have been holding on to that smack for use later on.
 
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The documentary on channel 4 tonight. Pete Doherty walking over that man's body and running away, well that looks awful!! I hope someone at that party has a conscience and can maybe speak to the police. His poor mum.
 
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How can this Johnny Headlock confess to murder and then simply retract it the next day? It makes 0 sense. Unless the Police managed to talk him out of it somehow? As it would come out that Pete’s ‘literary agent’ was in fact a Police informer of many years? Such a bizarre case. Even if he didn’t push him, Doherty owes Mark’s Mother closure in form of the truth of what happened on that night. But I suppose then he’d be considered a snitch in the eyes of those in East London?
 
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The statement at the end from PD was quite something 😐 strong shades of 'well I'm sorry you feel like that.'
Yes! Jumped out at me too. 'I hope Mrs Blanco can find assistance to come to terms with what happened to her son' in other words 'I'm tired of you hassling me about this boring old murder'

Absolute bleep.
 
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I agree the statement was a disgrace to a grieving mother. He addresses Marks accident at length in his book. He says Mark been ejected from the party for being a drunken mess an cornering and ranting at people - which matched up with what the Naomi person in the program says- he says he then returned and climbed up the outside of the building trying to get back in via the balcony and that's how he fell. I agree running away was crappy and inexcusable but it was also a panic response, and he probably had all sorts of gear on him that he didn't want the police to find. Again, reasons but not excuses.

He's deffo clean now - he's very chunky which is a dead giveaway. When someone starts eating right after years of drug use the appetite boomerangs. He seems to still like a drink.

I think he has a MH condition/possible bi-polar and that's a big part of what the drug use was about. In his book he says as a kid he used to hear voices. I think the drug use started as self medication. His mums book is actually a very beautiful thing. A desperate love letter trying to reach a son she was convinced would die. It must be a shock and a relief to her that he's still around, clean, and trying to do fatherhood correctly this time around.

I have a lot of time for him and a lot of empathy. He's an incredibly gifted musician and song writer regardless of some very black spots on his history. Smackheads aren't exactly known for being conscientious upstanding citizens. I'm sure he's done some well crappy things. Some of which he'll no doubt not even remember. Everyone deserves a chance at redemption and I'm glad he's still around making music.
 
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I agree the statement was a disgrace to a grieving mother. He addresses Marks accident at length in his book. He says Mark been ejected from the party for being a drunken mess an cornering and ranting at people - which matched up with what the Naomi person in the program says- he says he then returned and climbed up the outside of the building trying to get back in via the balcony and that's how he fell. I agree running away was crappy and inexcusable but it was also a panic response, and he probably had all sorts of gear on him that he didn't want the police to find. Again, reasons but not excuses.

He's deffo clean now - he's very chunky which is a dead giveaway. When someone starts eating right after years of drug use the appetite boomerangs. He seems to still like a drink.

I think he has a MH condition/possible bi-polar and that's a big part of what the drug use was about. In his book he says as a kid he used to hear voices. I think the drug use started as self medication. His mums book is actually a very beautiful thing. A desperate love letter trying to reach a son she was convinced would die. It must be a shock and a relief to her that he's still around, clean, and trying to do fatherhood correctly this time around.

I have a lot of time for him and a lot of empathy. He's an incredibly gifted musician and song writer regardless of some very black spots on his history. Smackheads aren't exactly known for being conscientious upstanding citizens. I'm sure he's done some well crappy things. Some of which he'll no doubt not even remember. Everyone deserves a chance at redemption and I'm glad he's still around making music.
The part where he climbed up to the balcony got missed on the CCTV though? You would expect that to be minutes before he fell.
I think most people in the flat know what happened that night but nobody wants to snitch on anyone as it will open a can of worms.
 
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The part where he climbed up to the balcony got missed on the CCTV though? You would expect that to be minutes before he fell.
I think most people in the flat know what happened that night but nobody wants to snitch on anyone as it will open a can of worms.
There’s also a statement where Paul Roundhill admits to setting Blanco’s hat on fire, and punching him three times in the face. Though, they left this out of the documentary for some reason.
 
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The part where he climbed up to the balcony got missed on the CCTV though? You would expect that to be minutes before he fell.
I think most people in the flat know what happened that night but nobody wants to snitch on anyone as it will open a can of worms.
Just a horrendous situation. When you throw in prodigious amounts of ale I think its entirely plausible a lot of people don't remember anything about what happened. The mum is understandably focusing on PD cos he's the famous/notorious person who can bring the case publicity but he's no more or less likely to know anything than anyone else. 100% understandable that she'd have a low opinion of him and a lot of anger towards him with him being on camera running away. I'd hate his guts if it was my loved one. But he's cooperated with the police all along and isn't responsible for their failures. I think the theory that 1 or more of the party attendees were police informers so the investigation was compromised from the get go to conceal that fact is more believable than the idea of PD or anyone else hurling a man from a balcony.

He says in his book that the mum fixed on the Babyshambles song The Lost Art Of Murder that was written months before as him mocking her aswell which is just a devastating thing for her to believe.

His statement was callous and dismissive, the only mitigating thing I can say is that he probably feels she's harassing him at this point if she's turned up at his gig with a sign. But she's a mother with a broken heart, she's gonna do whatever it takes to keep the case in the news. He's not the victim here.
 
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I agree running away was crappy and inexcusable but it was also a panic response, and he probably had all sorts of gear on him that he didn't want the police to find. Again, reasons but not excuses.

He's deffo clean now - he's very chunky which is a dead giveaway. When someone starts eating right after years of drug use the appetite boomerangs. He seems to still like a drink.
Your take on it makes sense. The CDAN item doesn't. In his pomp, Doherty didn't need dating apps to meet girls. He was a magnet for indie girls around that time, as confirmed by Hadley Freeman, who was one of them. She's an award-winning journalist these days and interviewed him a about a year ago for The Guardian. She talks about the many girls who would've done anything to go out with him. He was a dissolute poetic type and good-looking with it - a total catch to women who hung around the Libertines. He wasn't sitting at home scrolling through OK Cupid.
 
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Your take on it makes sense. The CDAN item doesn't. In his pomp, Doherty certainly didn't need to use dating apps to meet girls. He was a magnet for indie girls at around that time, as confirmed by Hadley Freeman, who was one of them. She's an award-winning journalist these days, and interviewed him a year or two ago for The Guardian. In the piece she talks about the many girls who would've done anything to go out with him - he was a poetic type, and good-looking with it, so he wasn't sitting at home scrolling through OK Cupid.
Hadley Freeman mooned around after Pete? Well damn! I had no idea.
 
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Your take on it makes sense. The CDAN item doesn't. In his pomp, Doherty didn't need dating apps to meet girls. He was a magnet for indie girls around that time, as confirmed by Hadley Freeman, who was one of them. She's an award-winning journalist these days and interviewed him a about a year ago for The Guardian. She talks about the many girls who would've done anything to go out with him. He was a dissolute poetic type and good-looking with it - a total catch to women who hung around the Libertines. He wasn't sitting at home scrolling through OK Cupid.
I'm going to watch it again tonight. I was drifting in and out yst with other distractions. It's possible I've missed all sorts of detail.
 
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