Pete Doherty

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Not really, not back then. Pete had his circle of people, Paul Ro, Johnny, Wolfman and plenty of people who he used to spend time with at Paul Ro's flat. Carl was usually totally off his face elsewhere, but then the same could be said for much of London at that point

They had something together though, separately they never quite matched it. They were drawn together because of that success.
 
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Did Carl and Pete hang out away from the band when Pete was up to all his goings on? He never seems to get really mentioned in any parties Pete was at apart from the actual gigs. I do think their 'deep' friendship was a largely exaggerated, they seemed more like rivals than anything else.
They were friends before the parties so I think that’s why carl was so loyal to him. Didn’t carl famously give Pete heroin or crack for the first time? Carl just managed to hold it together. I think Pete was at his worst after the libertines and during babyshambles
 
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Didn’t Johnny from Razorlight and Pete get into a huge fight some time ago?
 
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I used to knock about at Libertines aftershows sometimes probably from just before Up the Bracket came out until the whole Peter robbing Carl's flat carry on. They were pretty tight at the start but I think their friendship groups diverged slightly as I'm sure Carl got in with a more 'trendy' cokey crowd and Peter's crowd were just as described above - druggy (heroin, crack) and grim.

Peter was always knocking about with fans and used to use the forum (as 'heavyhorse') sporadically. I remember some weird period (probs around the flat robbing time) where it all seemed to get really dark and there was some chat of some twins he was knocking about with, one of which he got into heavy drugs. Not sure if this rings a bell with anyone?
 
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I used to knock about at Libertines aftershows sometimes probably from just before Up the Bracket came out until the whole Peter robbing Carl's flat carry on. They were pretty tight at the start but I think their friendship groups diverged slightly as I'm sure Carl got in with a more 'trendy' cokey crowd and Peter's crowd were just as described above - druggy (heroin, crack) and grim.

Peter was always knocking about with fans and used to use the forum (as 'heavyhorse') sporadically. I remember some weird period (probs around the flat robbing time) where it all seemed to get really dark and there was some chat of some twins he was knocking about with, one of which he got into heavy drugs. Not sure if this rings a bell with anyone?
Yes. They were young.
 
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Is it the twins from the up the bracket music video?
no. Not them. There were a couple of sets of twins around. One of them was in a relationship with Pete, the other set were young fans who used to travel to watch the band.
 
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I also remember reading a blind item that alleged Pete had killed numerous women by injecting them with more heroin when they were already passed out. Does anyone else remember this? It sounded depressingly plausible and the kind of deaths that would be chalked up to just another sad junkie OD.
 
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Google tells me that of the twins I had in mind, he had a relationship prior to and post Kate Moss with her. It is quite startling when you see quite how many women he managed to ensnare.
 
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I also remember reading a blind item that alleged Pete had killed numerous women by injecting them with more heroin when they were already passed out. Does anyone else remember this? It sounded depressingly plausible and the kind of deaths that would be chalked up to just another sad junkie OD.
I remember there was an image of him injecting a girl at some point
 
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I also remember reading a blind item that alleged Pete had killed numerous women by injecting them with more heroin when they were already passed out. Does anyone else remember this? It sounded depressingly plausible and the kind of deaths that would be chalked up to just another sad junkie OD.
Was it this one?

 
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They were friends before the parties so I think that’s why carl was so loyal to him. Didn’t carl famously give Pete heroin or crack for the first time? Carl just managed to hold it together. I think Pete was at his worst after the libertines and during babyshambles
I was there the first time Pete took crack. Carl, John, Gary, Kev the tour manager were absolutely
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Gah, posted before I finished! They were all gutted and the mood was very low!
 
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Was it this one?

ah yes I remember this blind along with a few others I believe one where a lady was found on Margate beach? 😔 so sad!!
I was there the first time Pete took crack. Carl, John, Gary, Kev the tour manager were absolutely
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Gah, posted before I finished! They were all gutted and the mood was very low!
I bet you have seen so much….my god I can only imagine🤯
 
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I was there the first time Pete took crack. Carl, John, Gary, Kev the tour manager were absolutely
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Gah, posted before I finished! They were all gutted and the mood was very low!
I always used to really like John, he seemed really sweet. I hope that's definitely the case as you just never can tell 😭
 
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