Perimenopause moans #2

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I’m looking at Turmeric to help with the joint aches which currently are ok until a week or so before my period and then awful for a few days.

Anyone recommend it?
 
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THANK YOU to those of you who've mentioned sleep as a symptom over the past couple of days. It's made me realise that I haven't had more than a couple of full nights of sleep in the past 3 or 4 months and that, combined with a new symptom of itchy skin, plus the existing ones of night sweats, hot flushes, atrocious short-term memory, large redistribution, crying at adverts and a cycle that's now anything from 3 to 6 weeks, meant I called the surgery at lunchtime today and have an appointment tomorrow to discuss starting HRT. I'm 49 next month, so hopefully won't be too much of a battle.
Oh Gods, I got a dinosaur locum :( Insisted on sending me for a blood test, even though NICE and NHS Scotland's guidelines both state that after 45 perimenopause should be diagnosed on symptoms. Then told me that difficulty sleeping and dry, itchy skin aren't symptoms of perimenopause, despite both being listed on NHS Scotland's website as such. He was pushing a variety of alternative medications to treat the individual symptoms and even said that my changed large distribution could be because I might be pre-diabetic and they'd test for that in the bloods at the same time as the FSH levels.

Blood test is in 2 weeks' time and I shall go to it, but I'm also drafting a complaint letter to the practice manager just in case I need it after the follow-up appointment.
 
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Oh Gods, I got a dinosaur locum :( Insisted on sending me for a blood test, even though NICE and NHS Scotland's guidelines both state that after 45 perimenopause should be diagnosed on symptoms. Then told me that difficulty sleeping and dry, itchy skin aren't symptoms of perimenopause, despite both being listed on NHS Scotland's website as such. He was pushing a variety of alternative medications to treat the individual symptoms and even said that my changed large distribution could be because I might be pre-diabetic and they'd test for that in the bloods at the same time as the FSH levels.

Blood test is in 2 weeks' time and I shall go to it, but I'm also drafting a complaint letter to the practice manager just in case I need it after the follow-up appointment.
Can you just call and make an appointment with someone else? This is appalling.
 
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Can you just call and make an appointment with someone else? This is appalling.
I live in a very remote part of the Highlands, it's the only surgery within 25 miles. The saving grace is that it's being run by locums as the GP retired 3 years earlier than NHS Highland was expecting and they couldn't get anyone else to take the contract on full-time as it's only got 3 years to run before, supposedly, a new facility for the whole area is ready. So if I don't get a result, I could go back in a few months and it'll be someone different.

If the worst comes to the worst, I'll book myself a private appointment with these people, who come very highly recommended from a friend. But it shouldn't be this hard.

 
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Oh Gods, I got a dinosaur locum :( Insisted on sending me for a blood test, even though NICE and NHS Scotland's guidelines both state that after 45 perimenopause should be diagnosed on symptoms. Then told me that difficulty sleeping and dry, itchy skin aren't symptoms of perimenopause, despite both being listed on NHS Scotland's website as such. He was pushing a variety of alternative medications to treat the individual symptoms and even said that my changed large distribution could be because I might be pre-diabetic and they'd test for that in the bloods at the same time as the FSH levels.

Blood test is in 2 weeks' time and I shall go to it, but I'm also drafting a complaint letter to the practice manager just in case I need it after the follow-up appointment.
So disappointing. You would have thought by 49 they wouldn't deny you were in peri.

Wonder if you were saying you thought something was horribly wrong , the same doctor would pass your symptoms off as menopause.
 
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Hi, I’ve just recently found this thread. I’m 44, and believe I’m fully in the perimenopause stage of my life.
I’m in NW England, and contemplating speaking to my doctor about this.
I had a look at symptoms and was absolutely shocked to the core to learn that NHS Scotland lists tinnitus as a symptom. It almost reduced me to tears.
I’ve scribbled through the only symptoms I don’t have based on NHSScot list. (I’m Scottish and my default always seems to be that page).

I’m not sure how to approach this with my doctor; I’m not a regular attender at the practice and so I don’t really have much of a relationship with the GP there (male - not sure if people think a male GP will make a difference or not).

anyway, black squiggles are the ones I don’t have.
 

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Hi, I’ve just recently found this thread. I’m 44, and believe I’m fully in the perimenopause stage of my life.
I’m in NW England, and contemplating speaking to my doctor about this.
I had a look at symptoms and was absolutely shocked to the core to learn that NHS Scotland lists tinnitus as a symptom. It almost reduced me to tears.
I’ve scribbled through the only symptoms I don’t have based on NHSScot list. (I’m Scottish and my default always seems to be that page).

I’m not sure how to approach this with my doctor; I’m not a regular attender at the practice and so I don’t really have much of a relationship with the GP there (male - not sure if people think a male GP will make a difference or not).

anyway, black squiggles are the ones I don’t have.
I was worried about how often I kept needing to wee, it became a real anxiety thing, but the short version of the story was that I saw a pelvic physio for that who deduced that my muscles were too tight and possibly not completely emptying my bladder because of it. Definitely ask to see one, as it really helped me and quickly too.

For my hrt conversation I just filled in the online triage and said I want to discuss hrt, they rang and went through it with me. If they aren’t helpful, ask again, or quote guidelines. I didn’t need to do any of that though. I felt like I was losing my mind before hrt, it’s really helped me, don’t take no for an answer or be fobbed off. I was waking up drenched in sweat, no more though.
 
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I was worried about how often I kept needing to wee, it became a real anxiety thing, but the short version of the story was that I saw a pelvic physio for that who deduced that my muscles were too tight and possibly not completely emptying my bladder because of it. Definitely ask to see one, as it really helped me and quickly too.

For my hrt conversation I just filled in the online triage and said I want to discuss hrt, they rang and went through it with me. If they aren’t helpful, ask again, or quote guidelines. I didn’t need to do any of that though. I felt like I was losing my mind before hrt, it’s really helped me, don’t take no for an answer or be fobbed off. I was waking up drenched in sweat, no more though.
thanks Grifty. Appreciate the advice. I'm going to try and go next week - this week i have an initial consultation with the ED clinic so i'm already feeling like i'm at my max capacity.
Will keep you posted.
 
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thanks Grifty. Appreciate the advice. I'm going to try and go next week - this week i have an initial consultation with the ED clinic so i'm already feeling like i'm at my max capacity.
Will keep you posted.
Good luck! I’ll be thinking good thoughts for you
 
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I live in a very remote part of the Highlands, it's the only surgery within 25 miles. The saving grace is that it's being run by locums as the GP retired 3 years earlier than NHS Highland was expecting and they couldn't get anyone else to take the contract on full-time as it's only got 3 years to run before, supposedly, a new facility for the whole area is ready. So if I don't get a result, I could go back in a few months and it'll be someone different.

If the worst comes to the worst, I'll book myself a private appointment with these people, who come very highly recommended from a friend. But it shouldn't be this hard.

That's really disappointing and frustrating. I hope they pull their fingers out. I'm booking in to my surgery soon to have the first talk ever about my symptoms and I'm expecting push back too.

My friend has just booked an appointment with the Louise Newson team!
 
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I hate that it's a postcode lottery at the moment or dependant on how well versed a GP is.
We should not be feeling extra anxious before an appointment because we feel we won't get the medication we need.
I was lucky but it annoys me even stating that. I shouldn't feel bloody lucky.
 
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It may be be slightly off topic but getting medication as a woman in general. I needed Valium for an mri. I’m very very hard to sedate, they wanted to give me 2x2mg. I said I will need more than that as it won’t do anything-I need double the normal dose when it’s iv sedation etc.
Nope. Can’t do it. My OH went with back pain, they dashed off a script for him for 3x 5mg or possibly even 10mg tablet per day for a week. No, “we can’t give you more than 4mg” for him.
I don’t fathom how they can’t see it’s not something I would take recreationally and become addicted to as it barely does anything Same with pain medication, it doesn’t work the way it seems to for other people beyond a tiny reduction in pain, I certainly wouldn’t feel high on it, and in hospital although I was on stuff like fentanyl I didn’t even feel sick.
If a man says he has pain though, he gets loaded with painkillers. Because men must be really suffering to seek help… that makes me sick
 
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Has anyone found their appetite has got smaller? I'm 41 .
Yes. I'm 42, quite often I just don't fancy eating. I don't seem to get hungry. BUT when I was talking to my friend about this, she's also 42, she said that she thinks I'm not eating enough which is why I'm gaining weight or struggling to lose it. I then tracked what I ate for about a week and she's right, I'm barely having 1000 calories some days, and it's been mainly carbs, nowhere near enough protein. I try to do weight-bearing exercises at home and go for walks, clearly not doing enough - but do any of you have suggestions on how to increase my protein intake? I can't face eating chicken or other meats all the time, I do have eggs almost every day, so any of you use any protein powders or other protein foods?
 
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Yes. I'm 42, quite often I just don't fancy eating. I don't seem to get hungry. BUT when I was talking to my friend about this, she's also 42, she said that she thinks I'm not eating enough which is why I'm gaining weight or struggling to lose it. I then tracked what I ate for about a week and she's right, I'm barely having 1000 calories some days, and it's been mainly carbs, nowhere near enough protein. I try to do weight-bearing exercises at home and go for walks, clearly not doing enough - but do any of you have suggestions on how to increase my protein intake? I can't face eating chicken or other meats all the time, I do have eggs almost every day, so any of you use any protein powders or other protein foods?
Babybels
Hummus
Lentil soup
Hard boiled eggs in fridge
Ryvitas with nut butter
Tinned mackerel in tomato sauce on toast


I hate protein powders. All the types. They just don’t do it for me but I’m lucky that protein is my favourite thing so I probably eat a lot of it via the things above, as well as meat.
 
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Hard boiled eggs in fridge
Tinned mackerel in tomato sauce on toast
That's a good idea re the eggs! And thanks for the reminder about mackerel on toast, I do enjoy that. It's just annoying how much effort has to go into eating, as well, now. Even trying to sleep is an effort😫
 
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That's a good idea re the eggs! And thanks for the reminder about mackerel on toast, I do enjoy that. It's just annoying how much effort has to go into eating, as well, now. Even trying to sleep is an effort😫
You’re welcome, it’s much easier when you do 12 in one go. I do them in the instant pot. I hate the effort with food too. I’m always on for ways to reduce effort!

Re sleep; are you on hrt? I’ve cut my caffeine down lately which has been really hard but I do feel like I have more energy. I have no trouble falling asleep, but issues with enough deep sleep. Before I got hrt I was tossing and turning drenched in sweat - which was the prompt to ask for it. I still have deep sleep issues but I suspect a lot of that is ptsd related and being disturbed by other people.
 
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I prefer protein to carbs. Im eating less bread and potatoes with my meals these days. I feel better in myself when I eat protein, especially meats.
 
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