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It's tragic that Peaches died of a heroin overdose, but I wanna know why celebs are treated differently over 'normal' people with addiction problems?

The posters in this thread mention she was getting help with managing her addiction to heroin, why were her babies in her care then, much worse, cared for by her alone?

I was a heroin addict in recovery prescribed Suboxone instead of methadone, my choice of medication as it contains naloxone which stops you getting high if you use heroin on top of your medicine, I was really committed to getting clean.

Then during this time got pregnant with my first child and was switched to another prescribed opiate, subutex as it was deemed safer for pregnancy.

Now, I had a 1-2-1 midwife the whole time, who drug tested me throughout my pregnancy, then after my baby was born I was under the care of specialised health visitors who also monitored me and my baby closely. This is even though I had never relapsed/given a positive drug test to my key worker from the drug and alcohol services I attended to get clean, who also prescribed my medical grade opiates, before I even got pregnant.

If I HAD given a positive urine sample, I would have had my baby removed from my care, and quite rightly so. Stating the obvious, I can tell you it's unsafe to be using heroin and caring for a baby!

Why do stars get away (for want of a better word) with this when us normal folks would be deemed unfit parents, it really boils my piss?!
Congratulations on getting and staying off heroin. Its a huge achievement and well done for going through all of those checks during pregnancy and afterwards.

Would it of been that because of the money and celeb status that they could of not disclosed what was actually going on? Bluffed that it was a casual thing but she wasn't a regular user?
I'm not familiar addiction or how it's treated, so forgive me if that sounds naive.
 
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Btw, Thomas Cohen was dating Zoe Arquette, daughter of Rosanna Arquette. Saw them on his insta few years ago. His current gf is quite the similar type to Zoe Arquette.
 
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It's tragic that Peaches died of a heroin overdose, but I wanna know why celebs are treated differently over 'normal' people with addiction problems?

The posters in this thread mention she was getting help with managing her addiction to heroin, why were her babies in her care then, much worse, cared for by her alone?

I was a heroin addict in recovery prescribed Suboxone instead of methadone, my choice of medication as it contains naloxone which stops you getting high if you use heroin on top of your medicine, I was really committed to getting clean.

Then during this time got pregnant with my first child and was switched to another prescribed opiate, subutex as it was deemed safer for pregnancy.

Now, I had a 1-2-1 midwife the whole time, who drug tested me throughout my pregnancy, then after my baby was born I was under the care of specialised health visitors who also monitored me and my baby closely. This is even though I had never relapsed/given a positive drug test to my key worker from the drug and alcohol services I attended to get clean, who also prescribed my medical grade opiates, before I even got pregnant.

If I HAD given a positive urine sample, I would have had my baby removed from my care, and quite rightly so. Stating the obvious, I can tell you it's unsafe to be using heroin and caring for a baby!

Why do stars get away (for want of a better word) with this when us normal folks would be deemed unfit parents, it really boils my piss?!
because the U.K. has a massive problem with classicism and snobbery?

Boris Jonson had about a million kids with multiple women, including wives he cheated on with.

if he was in a council estate he’d be invited on to Jeremy Kyle, who’d proceed to demand why he hasn’t worn a condom and how he expected to pay for all these kids.

but since Boris comes from gentry, instead it’s all laughed off and he’s voted as leader of the Conservative party.

drug use aside, there was also a very famous picture of peaches that went viral in September 2012 of her talking on the phone while her baby fell out of his pram - and she continued to talk on her phone. The media was blasted at the time for picking on a young mother and some of the criticism was fair - but peaches blamed the condition of the roads for what happened instead of any personal responsibility - and crucially, it later emerged at the inquest into her death in May 2014 that she had been taking methadone to overcome her addiction. If any other mother had been witnessed with their child falling out of their pram whilst she stayed on the phone, questions would be raised over whether or not she was managing her addiction.

Peaches came from a very upper middle class family - one that was also very high profile. I suspect being the daughter of saint Bob meant people were reluctant to ask questions and it is *very* lucky no harm came to her babies.
 
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Why do stars get away (for want of a better word) with this when us normal folks would be deemed unfit parents, it really boils my piss?!
Did you have your baby through the NHS? I always wonder if the celebs go private because I imagine the medical staff won’t ask as many questions when they’re being paid through the nose.

Well done on your recovery too!
 
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It's tragic that Peaches died of a heroin overdose, but I wanna know why celebs are treated differently over 'normal' people with addiction problems?

The posters in this thread mention she was getting help with managing her addiction to heroin, why were her babies in her care then, much worse, cared for by her alone?

I was a heroin addict in recovery prescribed Suboxone instead of methadone, my choice of medication as it contains naloxone which stops you getting high if you use heroin on top of your medicine, I was really committed to getting clean.

Then during this time got pregnant with my first child and was switched to another prescribed opiate, subutex as it was deemed safer for pregnancy.

Now, I had a 1-2-1 midwife the whole time, who drug tested me throughout my pregnancy, then after my baby was born I was under the care of specialised health visitors who also monitored me and my baby closely. This is even though I had never relapsed/given a positive drug test to my key worker from the drug and alcohol services I attended to get clean, who also prescribed my medical grade opiates, before I even got pregnant.

If I HAD given a positive urine sample, I would have had my baby removed from my care, and quite rightly so. Stating the obvious, I can tell you it's unsafe to be using heroin and caring for a baby!

Why do stars get away (for want of a better word) with this when us normal folks would be deemed unfit parents, it really boils my piss?!
Amazing that you have been able to beat addiction to heroin I know it’s the hardest drug to get off. I was a ss before I left in March to be a stay at home mummy and I’ve worked with many families with serious addiction problems. The thing is if there is a ‘sober’ parent the children will remain with their parents. The last family I worked with both parents were heroin addicts the child remained with them until very recently. They had every worker possible working with them to try and help them. Many times I would call for emergency meetings because that child should not have been aloud to stay in their care it breaks my heart just thinking about it. I can see why peaches boys stayed with them. I’m almost certain ss were involved.
 
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Did you have your baby through the NHS? I always wonder if the celebs go private because I imagine the medical staff won’t ask as many questions when they’re being paid through the nose.

Well done on your recovery too!
Peaches made up some sob story about her baby still having to be in hospital due to asthma or something didn’t she? All the while it was in a specialist unit being weaned off methodone and heroin. I imagine the nurses loved reading all about poor earth mother peaches in the magazines at the hospital shop.
She also claimed her track marks were psoriasis! She had a ready made lie for everything that also handily garnered sympathy for herself as well.
 
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Not to mention Fifi probably saw the WORST of it being the oldest child and would have known full well what was going on. Paula used to drag her to INXS gigs to set her sights on Michael while Fifi was a little girl who should have been in bed.
Shes also a fair bit older than the other girls, isn't she, and the least like Paula in the looks department, which strikes me as something Paula would have focused on with the other two.
 
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Shes also a fair bit older than the other girls, isn't she, and the least like Paula in the looks department, which strikes me as something Paula would have focused on with the other two.
Fifi looks a lot more like Paula with the short blonde hair but when she was a child Paula used to say she was 'Bob in a frock' which always felt really derogatory to me.

I actually think Peaches resembled Bob a lot facially before she lost weight and got her veneers and lips done. Tiger is pure Michael.
 
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Fifi looks a lot more like Paula with the short blonde hair but when she was a child Paula used to say she was 'Bob in a frock' which always felt really derogatory to me.
Yes I remember that. It is a horrible thing to say about your daughter. Bob is hardly an attractive man, and its not like a 'Oh she takes after her dad' way. It is derogatory.
 
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Peaches made up some sob story about her baby still having to be in hospital due to asthma or something didn’t she? All the while it was in a specialist unit being weaned off methodone and heroin. I imagine the nurses loved reading all about poor earth mother peaches in the magazines at the hospital shop.
She also claimed her track marks were psoriasis! She had a ready made lie for everything that also handily garnered sympathy for herself as well.
Omg yes she did. So awful 🙁. To this day seeing baby’s being weaned off drugs is the saddest things I’ve seen in my life.
 
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Did you have your baby through the NHS? I always wonder if the celebs go private because I imagine the medical staff won’t ask as many questions when they’re being paid through the nose.

Well done on your recovery too!
I did have my baby at a NHS hospital xx
 
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Peaches made up some sob story about her baby still having to be in hospital due to asthma or something didn’t she? All the while it was in a specialist unit being weaned off methodone and heroin. I imagine the nurses loved reading all about poor earth mother peaches in the magazines at the hospital shop.
She also claimed her track marks were psoriasis! She had a ready made lie for everything that also handily garnered sympathy for herself as well.
the whole family had a talent for manipulation, sad but true.

Paula was almost pathological in how she manipulated people, including hutchence.

Bob Geldoff manipulated a whole nation into thinking he deserved a knighthood, and it took decades for people to realise the whole live aid thing was ignorant, and ultimately more about self promotion.

Peaches learned this behaviour for sure.

Fifi looks a lot more like Paula with the short blonde hair but when she was a child Paula used to say she was 'Bob in a frock' which always felt really derogatory to me.

I actually think Peaches resembled Bob a lot facially before she lost weight and got her veneers and lips done. Tiger is pure Michael.
pixi is pure Michael too!
 
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the whole family had a talent for manipulation, sad but true.

Paula was almost pathological in how she manipulated people, including hutchence.

Bob Geldoff manipulated a whole nation into thinking he deserved a knighthood, and it took decades for people to realise the whole live aid thing was ignorant, and ultimately more about self promotion.

Peaches learned this behaviour for sure.



pixi is pure Michael too!
None of Paula, Bob, even Peaches strike me as particularly nice people that you'd want to know. Pixie and Fifi - maybe, I don't know enough.
I thought Peaches husband Thomas seemed nice, I do wonder if he told the full truth to the inquest though, I suspect not - I've said it here before but bits of the story seemed strange, like why did he leave the baby with her knowing she was back using.
It sounded to me like they were half-separated, maybe I'm wrong.
It's unbelievably sad for the kids.
 
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None of Paula, Bob, even Peaches strike me as particularly nice people that you'd want to know. Pixie and Fifi - maybe, I don't know enough.
I thought Peaches husband Thomas seemed nice, I do wonder if he told the full truth to the inquest though, I suspect not
I think Michael was at heart, a sweet soul, although he over-identified with the whole dissolute rock star thing. I definitely think that last phone call with Paula was what pushed him over the edge. She was astonishingly manipulative and histrionic. threats of self-harm, withholding the kids etc etc if he left her.
Pixie seems like a nice kid.
Bob is vile.
Paula was a narcissistic histrionic nightmare, albeit with lots of superficial magnetic appeal and she could be a hell of a writer when she wanted to be. She was so fucked up by her parents.
 
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Paula almost certainly had a personality disorder - hyper sexuality is a symptom ( as well as narcissistic traits… of which Paula exhibited MANY)
 
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I think Michael was at heart, a sweet soul, although he over-identified with the whole dissolute rock star thing. I definitely think that last phone call with Paula was what pushed him over the edge. She was astonishingly manipulative and histrionic. threats of self-harm, withholding the kids etc etc if he left her.
Pixie seems like a nice kid.
Bob is vile.
Paula was a narcissistic histrionic nightmare, albeit with lots of superficial magnetic appeal and she could be a hell of a writer when she wanted to be. She was so fucked up by her parents.
I agree I think Michael was an OK soul at heart but messed his life up with drugs and hung around with absolute leeches, particularly towards the end. I wonder sometimes would he have been happier had he packed it in and gone off grid and said bye to the lot of them. I don't think he was a naturally extroverted person off stage. I think he lacked the smarts of Bob and Paula and got manipulated easily and took criticism to heart. For someone in the music industry that's a terrible combination. I'm not blaming everyone else for his problems just saying the people he hung out with did him no good, fck the lot of them
 
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I agree I think Michael was an OK soul at heart but messed his life up with drugs and hung around with absolute leeches, particularly towards the end. I wonder sometimes would he have been happier had he packed it in and gone off grid and said bye to the lot of them. I don't think he was a naturally extroverted person off stage. I think he lacked the smarts of Bob and Paula and got manipulated easily and took criticism to heart. For someone in the music industry that's a terrible combination. I'm not blaming everyone else for his problems just saying the people he hung out with did him no good, fck the lot of them
With Michael I don't feel enough is made of the brain injury he got in Denmark. I think all the court and paparazzi stuff with Paula and the kids would be a nightmare for anyone, but it sounded like his personality was quite affected by the injury such as showing violent behaviour, which had never been the case before. The loss of smell and taste too seemed to bring about massive depressive issues as well.
 
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With Michael I don't feel enough is made of the brain injury he got in Denmark. I think all the court and paparazzi stuff with Paula and the kids would be a nightmare for anyone, but it sounded like his personality was quite affected by the injury such as showing violent behaviour, which had never been the case before. The loss of smell and taste too seemed to bring about massive depressive issues as well.
And it was revealed the damage was degenerative; he had started forgetting lyrics, although the drugs and booze and incorrectly prescribed (and taken medication) would not have helped.
 
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