It's still there!The Melody Nelson-Facebook seems to be gone sadly, before I had the chance to see it.
It's still there!The Melody Nelson-Facebook seems to be gone sadly, before I had the chance to see it.
Ah ok thanks. Could you maybe link it please? Thanks in advance!It's still there!
Congratulations on getting and staying off heroin. Its a huge achievement and well done for going through all of those checks during pregnancy and afterwards.It's tragic that Peaches died of a heroin overdose, but I wanna know why celebs are treated differently over 'normal' people with addiction problems?
The posters in this thread mention she was getting help with managing her addiction to heroin, why were her babies in her care then, much worse, cared for by her alone?
I was a heroin addict in recovery prescribed Suboxone instead of methadone, my choice of medication as it contains naloxone which stops you getting high if you use heroin on top of your medicine, I was really committed to getting clean.
Then during this time got pregnant with my first child and was switched to another prescribed opiate, subutex as it was deemed safer for pregnancy.
Now, I had a 1-2-1 midwife the whole time, who drug tested me throughout my pregnancy, then after my baby was born I was under the care of specialised health visitors who also monitored me and my baby closely. This is even though I had never relapsed/given a positive drug test to my key worker from the drug and alcohol services I attended to get clean, who also prescribed my medical grade opiates, before I even got pregnant.
If I HAD given a positive urine sample, I would have had my baby removed from my care, and quite rightly so. Stating the obvious, I can tell you it's unsafe to be using heroin and caring for a baby!
Why do stars get away (for want of a better word) with this when us normal folks would be deemed unfit parents, it really boils my piss?!
because the U.K. has a massive problem with classicism and snobbery?It's tragic that Peaches died of a heroin overdose, but I wanna know why celebs are treated differently over 'normal' people with addiction problems?
The posters in this thread mention she was getting help with managing her addiction to heroin, why were her babies in her care then, much worse, cared for by her alone?
I was a heroin addict in recovery prescribed Suboxone instead of methadone, my choice of medication as it contains naloxone which stops you getting high if you use heroin on top of your medicine, I was really committed to getting clean.
Then during this time got pregnant with my first child and was switched to another prescribed opiate, subutex as it was deemed safer for pregnancy.
Now, I had a 1-2-1 midwife the whole time, who drug tested me throughout my pregnancy, then after my baby was born I was under the care of specialised health visitors who also monitored me and my baby closely. This is even though I had never relapsed/given a positive drug test to my key worker from the drug and alcohol services I attended to get clean, who also prescribed my medical grade opiates, before I even got pregnant.
If I HAD given a positive urine sample, I would have had my baby removed from my care, and quite rightly so. Stating the obvious, I can tell you it's unsafe to be using heroin and caring for a baby!
Why do stars get away (for want of a better word) with this when us normal folks would be deemed unfit parents, it really boils my piss?!
Did you have your baby through the NHS? I always wonder if the celebs go private because I imagine the medical staff won’t ask as many questions when they’re being paid through the nose.Why do stars get away (for want of a better word) with this when us normal folks would be deemed unfit parents, it really boils my piss?!
Amazing that you have been able to beat addiction to heroin I know it’s the hardest drug to get off. I was a ss before I left in March to be a stay at home mummy and I’ve worked with many families with serious addiction problems. The thing is if there is a ‘sober’ parent the children will remain with their parents. The last family I worked with both parents were heroin addicts the child remained with them until very recently. They had every worker possible working with them to try and help them. Many times I would call for emergency meetings because that child should not have been aloud to stay in their care it breaks my heart just thinking about it. I can see why peaches boys stayed with them. I’m almost certain ss were involved.It's tragic that Peaches died of a heroin overdose, but I wanna know why celebs are treated differently over 'normal' people with addiction problems?
The posters in this thread mention she was getting help with managing her addiction to heroin, why were her babies in her care then, much worse, cared for by her alone?
I was a heroin addict in recovery prescribed Suboxone instead of methadone, my choice of medication as it contains naloxone which stops you getting high if you use heroin on top of your medicine, I was really committed to getting clean.
Then during this time got pregnant with my first child and was switched to another prescribed opiate, subutex as it was deemed safer for pregnancy.
Now, I had a 1-2-1 midwife the whole time, who drug tested me throughout my pregnancy, then after my baby was born I was under the care of specialised health visitors who also monitored me and my baby closely. This is even though I had never relapsed/given a positive drug test to my key worker from the drug and alcohol services I attended to get clean, who also prescribed my medical grade opiates, before I even got pregnant.
If I HAD given a positive urine sample, I would have had my baby removed from my care, and quite rightly so. Stating the obvious, I can tell you it's unsafe to be using heroin and caring for a baby!
Why do stars get away (for want of a better word) with this when us normal folks would be deemed unfit parents, it really boils my piss?!
Peaches made up some sob story about her baby still having to be in hospital due to asthma or something didn’t she? All the while it was in a specialist unit being weaned off methodone and heroin. I imagine the nurses loved reading all about poor earth mother peaches in the magazines at the hospital shop.Did you have your baby through the NHS? I always wonder if the celebs go private because I imagine the medical staff won’t ask as many questions when they’re being paid through the nose.
Well done on your recovery too!
Shes also a fair bit older than the other girls, isn't she, and the least like Paula in the looks department, which strikes me as something Paula would have focused on with the other two.Not to mention Fifi probably saw the WORST of it being the oldest child and would have known full well what was going on. Paula used to drag her to INXS gigs to set her sights on Michael while Fifi was a little girl who should have been in bed.
Fifi looks a lot more like Paula with the short blonde hair but when she was a child Paula used to say she was 'Bob in a frock' which always felt really derogatory to me.Shes also a fair bit older than the other girls, isn't she, and the least like Paula in the looks department, which strikes me as something Paula would have focused on with the other two.
Yes I remember that. It is a horrible thing to say about your daughter. Bob is hardly an attractive man, and its not like a 'Oh she takes after her dad' way. It is derogatory.Fifi looks a lot more like Paula with the short blonde hair but when she was a child Paula used to say she was 'Bob in a frock' which always felt really derogatory to me.
Omg yes she did. So awful . To this day seeing baby’s being weaned off drugs is the saddest things I’ve seen in my life.Peaches made up some sob story about her baby still having to be in hospital due to asthma or something didn’t she? All the while it was in a specialist unit being weaned off methodone and heroin. I imagine the nurses loved reading all about poor earth mother peaches in the magazines at the hospital shop.
She also claimed her track marks were psoriasis! She had a ready made lie for everything that also handily garnered sympathy for herself as well.
I did have my baby at a NHS hospital xxDid you have your baby through the NHS? I always wonder if the celebs go private because I imagine the medical staff won’t ask as many questions when they’re being paid through the nose.
Well done on your recovery too!
the whole family had a talent for manipulation, sad but true.Peaches made up some sob story about her baby still having to be in hospital due to asthma or something didn’t she? All the while it was in a specialist unit being weaned off methodone and heroin. I imagine the nurses loved reading all about poor earth mother peaches in the magazines at the hospital shop.
She also claimed her track marks were psoriasis! She had a ready made lie for everything that also handily garnered sympathy for herself as well.
pixi is pure Michael too!Fifi looks a lot more like Paula with the short blonde hair but when she was a child Paula used to say she was 'Bob in a frock' which always felt really derogatory to me.
I actually think Peaches resembled Bob a lot facially before she lost weight and got her veneers and lips done. Tiger is pure Michael.
None of Paula, Bob, even Peaches strike me as particularly nice people that you'd want to know. Pixie and Fifi - maybe, I don't know enough.the whole family had a talent for manipulation, sad but true.
Paula was almost pathological in how she manipulated people, including hutchence.
Bob Geldoff manipulated a whole nation into thinking he deserved a knighthood, and it took decades for people to realise the whole live aid thing was ignorant, and ultimately more about self promotion.
Peaches learned this behaviour for sure.
pixi is pure Michael too!
I think Michael was at heart, a sweet soul, although he over-identified with the whole dissolute rock star thing. I definitely think that last phone call with Paula was what pushed him over the edge. She was astonishingly manipulative and histrionic. threats of self-harm, withholding the kids etc etc if he left her.None of Paula, Bob, even Peaches strike me as particularly nice people that you'd want to know. Pixie and Fifi - maybe, I don't know enough.
I thought Peaches husband Thomas seemed nice, I do wonder if he told the full truth to the inquest though, I suspect not
I agree I think Michael was an OK soul at heart but messed his life up with drugs and hung around with absolute leeches, particularly towards the end. I wonder sometimes would he have been happier had he packed it in and gone off grid and said bye to the lot of them. I don't think he was a naturally extroverted person off stage. I think he lacked the smarts of Bob and Paula and got manipulated easily and took criticism to heart. For someone in the music industry that's a terrible combination. I'm not blaming everyone else for his problems just saying the people he hung out with did him no good, fck the lot of themI think Michael was at heart, a sweet soul, although he over-identified with the whole dissolute rock star thing. I definitely think that last phone call with Paula was what pushed him over the edge. She was astonishingly manipulative and histrionic. threats of self-harm, withholding the kids etc etc if he left her.
Pixie seems like a nice kid.
Bob is vile.
Paula was a narcissistic histrionic nightmare, albeit with lots of superficial magnetic appeal and she could be a hell of a writer when she wanted to be. She was so fucked up by her parents.
With Michael I don't feel enough is made of the brain injury he got in Denmark. I think all the court and paparazzi stuff with Paula and the kids would be a nightmare for anyone, but it sounded like his personality was quite affected by the injury such as showing violent behaviour, which had never been the case before. The loss of smell and taste too seemed to bring about massive depressive issues as well.I agree I think Michael was an OK soul at heart but messed his life up with drugs and hung around with absolute leeches, particularly towards the end. I wonder sometimes would he have been happier had he packed it in and gone off grid and said bye to the lot of them. I don't think he was a naturally extroverted person off stage. I think he lacked the smarts of Bob and Paula and got manipulated easily and took criticism to heart. For someone in the music industry that's a terrible combination. I'm not blaming everyone else for his problems just saying the people he hung out with did him no good, fck the lot of them
And it was revealed the damage was degenerative; he had started forgetting lyrics, although the drugs and booze and incorrectly prescribed (and taken medication) would not have helped.With Michael I don't feel enough is made of the brain injury he got in Denmark. I think all the court and paparazzi stuff with Paula and the kids would be a nightmare for anyone, but it sounded like his personality was quite affected by the injury such as showing violent behaviour, which had never been the case before. The loss of smell and taste too seemed to bring about massive depressive issues as well.