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I remember people praising Bob when he took Hutchence' s daughter in "what a compassionate man" etc etc He knew full well that he was going to re-enforce his Saint Bob image and that she would have her own living quarters with a nanny, he would hardly ever see her.
And just imagine how Michael H would have felt about it. He hated Bob so much in the end - he would have turned in his grave knowing that Bob now had Tiger.

This is such a dramatic story:
Bob as the hero, who is admired by the public and then publicly humiliated.
Paula as the evil unfaithful woman, who breaks up her family to be with her lover and causes heartache for Bob, who subsequently fights for the children.
Michael as the seductive and dangerous bad boy who stole Paula's heart and shines over Bob, taking his place in the family.
Tiger Lily, the cherished result of a passionate love affair, daughter of two charismatic and troubled anti-heros.
In the end, both Michael and Paula suffer and die.
Bob remains the sole winner and triumphs over Paula and Michael, who caused hurt and harm. As a symbol of his victory he keeps Tiger Lily, the personification of Paula's and Michael's passion, love and longings.

Sometimes real life writes the best and most tragic stories.
 
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Sideboard Bob

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Can anyone recommend a good book about Paula Yates? This thread really is fascinating but so sad.
On a lighter note, I was looking up pictures, and spent a good few minutes confused to see Dean Gaffney hanging out with Paula and Bob at the Brit awards.... it’s actually Roger Daltrey!

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Clairer86

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Silly Q- how do people act on heroin? Is it like train spotting where they pass out or can you function??
Its not a silly question at all! :)

So when i was using heroin and crack on a daily basis, i was pretty high functioning; i mean i managed to do my MA degree and get a merit for it! I was then able to work in a high pressured job, paid all my bills, took care of myself in terms of my appearance, socialised with my friends who have never taken drugs, and no one knew i was secretly battling this terrible addiction.

Although there can be some generalisations regarding the behaviour of people on heroin and crack, the truth is everyone is different. For me, i found heroin gave me a little bit of energy, and i thought i was much more productive on it. I would "nod off" only at the end of the day when i was in bed and settled. Crack cocaine made me so confident and i felt like i could take on the world. Combined it felt beautiful, i cant lie. There is a reason why people become addicted- i literally felt like i was being wrapped in cotton wool. It was the perfect combination to help me numb my past trauma and make me feel better about myself.
However, the withdrawals are awful. It is literally the worst pain in the world- its like flu but a million times worse, and i wouldnt wish it on anyone not even my worst enemy. It is a very real thing, and i only understood that when i was going through it; in the past i thought it was just made up and naively thought that it was just an excuse addicts used, but its very real and very horrible. But i never had financial issues, and i had a good relationship with my couple of trusted dealers.

I can only talk about my own experience, and other people may have different experiences to me. I am aware i have never fit the stereotypical image of an "addict"; as i said i never had financial issues, never been in trouble with the police, was able to complete my MA degree, and work in a "proper" career. However, im so glad i am not that person anymore and nowadays i take my 20 ml of methadone each day, i dont even drink alcohol anymore, i live a very boring life; but im clean and no longer living a lie or dicing with death. :)
 
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maytoseptember

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As for anything to do with the bum - I hate it. I don’t think I am missing out in any way, I just don’t like anything sex related in the bum area.
Amen to that.

Saw a video on my Tiktok FYP yesterday from a young woman joking that anal hurts. I scrolled the comments hoping to see one saying “Don’t do it girl”. Of all the top comments, every single one was giving her advice how to make it less painful. Others were talking about “bleeding every time”. Not ONE suggestion that if you don’t enjoy something sexually, or if it causes you actual physical harm, you can put a boundary in place and say no. But girls are so conditioned to believe that it’s totally normal. Thanks to porn. So depressing.
 
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Does anyone know anything about how Thomas Cohen is, and his beautiful boys?

I think of Peaches often as my mother died of a heroin overdose when I was a child. I am lucky to have found happiness and sobriety, but it has taken so much work and I live with the trauma every day. My heart breaks for Paula and Peaches.
 
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Metamorpheuse13

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TW for drug abuse.

I've spent the better part of the day reading through these threads. Like so many other here, I was so heartbroken when Peaches died. I'm not from the UK so I didn't even have that link to her, but the idea of a young mom dying due to her addictions alone with her baby is so disturbing. I actually thought of her and googled her again maybe a week before stumbling upon this thread today. Her little family really looked like a dream! I was also so fascinated by the Geldofs and their crazy names as a kid.

Part of the reason why I was so disturbed is because I can relate a lot to Peaches. My parents were heroin addicts - it was a strange childhood. My father had a pretty good job and we'd oscillate between him having his shit together and us living in nice houses for a year, to him going on heroin binges and not showing up for work, us moving into severely crappy apartments, etc, etc, etc... It was difficult for a child to understand. I was really spoiled materially (my father bought me a present every day after work for years), and I was the first at my school to get an iPhone, etc, so I never quite managed to bridge the idea of having so many nice things and then ending up in rotten apartments every few years.

Anyway. I lost my mom at 15 and my father 11 months later. (My dad suffered brain trauma after 7 heroin overdoses over the course of 6 months however, and became a total monster. Losing him was a blessing.) I don't think I can quite describe that level of emotional pain, and it never really goes away. Missing my mom honestly just gets worse the older I get. I think Peaches had it the same way and I feel deeply for her... I also understand the lure of heroin. I've done a lot of partying in my day, and tried pretty much every drug under the sun apart from heroin.

"Connecting" with my dead mom, to me, has become reading the books she'd read to me when I was little or I'd read when she was still alive or watch the movies we watched together. It has become detective work into her past. I have, however, given a great deal of thought into trying heroin because I want to connect TO HER. I want to know what doing heroin was like and understand that part of her. It's been over 10 years and missing her is still a daily ache.

If I was offered heroin in a clean environment where I could smoke it... I am honest enough with myself to say I'd do it because I want to feel closer to my mom. If told I had 6 months left to live, I'd definitely do heroin. I am not about to go out and buy it from some street dealer though. This is not a decision at the forefront of my mind that I am toying with right now, just to make that clear. It's just something I've accepted that I'll very well do some day simply because I miss my mom so horribly.

If Peaches was clean for a while and posted that picture of her mom and then ODed that night, I can easily see her wanting to connect with her dead mother as well, and it just going terribly wrong. I bet she was feeling really sad. My heart bleeds for her and the whole situation more so than her sons and husband, and I know 100% that that's my bias showing. I just can't fault her for it even if it was 100% her own decision that caused so many people horrible pain. (I also definitely do feel for her sons and husband though, just to make that clear. I so, so wish Peaches was still around.)

On a lighter note, I actually don't think she had a lot of facial plastic surgery. I think she lost a lot of weight, got large veneers and had a buccal fat removal. I also think she had a botox brow lift and lip fillers. Actually not a lot by today's celebrity standard tbh, though I do agree there is a huge difference between "chunky party girl" Peaches and "ethereally beautiful" Peaches.
 
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maytoseptember

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I thought this too! Michael sounds like he might actually have struggled with sex addiction. I don’t wanna romanticise that at all.
Imagine saying “Not tonight darling, I have thrush/a UTI/whatever, and your partner offering to stick his tongue up your arse instead. No thanks love.
 
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Jjjjj555

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It's tragic that Peaches died of a heroin overdose, but I wanna know why celebs are treated differently over 'normal' people with addiction problems?

The posters in this thread mention she was getting help with managing her addiction to heroin, why were her babies in her care then, much worse, cared for by her alone?

I was a heroin addict in recovery prescribed Suboxone instead of methadone, my choice of medication as it contains naloxone which stops you getting high if you use heroin on top of your medicine, I was really committed to getting clean.

Then during this time got pregnant with my first child and was switched to another prescribed opiate, subutex as it was deemed safer for pregnancy.

Now, I had a 1-2-1 midwife the whole time, who drug tested me throughout my pregnancy, then after my baby was born I was under the care of specialised health visitors who also monitored me and my baby closely. This is even though I had never relapsed/given a positive drug test to my key worker from the drug and alcohol services I attended to get clean, who also prescribed my medical grade opiates, before I even got pregnant.

If I HAD given a positive urine sample, I would have had my baby removed from my care, and quite rightly so. Stating the obvious, I can tell you it's unsafe to be using heroin and caring for a baby!

Why do stars get away (for want of a better word) with this when us normal folks would be deemed unfit parents, it really boils my piss?!
 
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Idontevengohere

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I read an article about Bob and how angry he was at the system for child custody after he and Paula separated. He was saying how unfair it was towards fathers, that he was separated from his children after having seen them almost every day of their lives up to that point and how if he walked out taking them he would be arrested whereas the mother could and it would be fine. He, I believe, was very outspoken on improving the rights of divorced fathers. He sought custody and was eventually granted it because he wanted to protect the girls from the chaos that had become Paulas life. I find it hard to believe that he would then just ignore his children. The damage was undoubtedly done to those girls during the bitter divorce and custody proceedings and all the trauma surrounding the deaths of Michael and Paula herself. Bob maintains that he was blindsided by her leaving him. She cheated and left him and somehow he is the bad guy because he didn't roll over. Also took on tiger lily and treated her as his own and as has been said, she was the result of that terrible betrayal. I don't really like Bob Geldof, honest 😂, but he imo did the best with the shitty hands he was dealt.
 
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Badirene

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Im older than a lot of you I think and remember the custody battle for Tiger Lily very well. She went to Bob, primarily so she could stay with her sisters. Had she gone to live in Australia with Michaels family then she would hardly have seen them. Bob then said ‘anybody would have done the same’ as him, but they really wouldn’t have. I remember my own mum saying she thought Bob deserved a medal for taking Tiger Lily on. He actually adopted her didn’t he? Her name is Hutchence-Geldof.
That's the thing in circumstances like this what is the "right" thing to do, keep all the kids together with Bob ( even though he was hated by Michael) or send one child to Oz to the Hutence family ( that was hated by Michael) DNA means nothing in these cases you act in the best interest of the child. I also think the Hutence family may not have protected Tiger from press interests and would have sold stories and photos of her.

I also don't truly believe that Bob was an absent parent to Tiger, I remember when Bob's father died and the family came here to Ireland for the funeral, there was pictures in the papers of Tiger clinging to Bob as she was so upset at losing her grandad, apparently Bob's dad doted on her, she was the apple of his eye, that doesn't fit with a distant and absent Bob that didn't make that little girl a part of the family. I think the whole separate flat for the kids is overblown too, how many parents have a playroom or treehouse for their kids, this is just the wealthy version of that, a space for the kids to hang out that is their own, you wouldn't accuse Brenda down the road of being a negligent mother because she turfed her kids into the playroom when they got too loud and boisterous.

Now I have to have a wash for partway defending Sir Gob Geldof.
 
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blueberriesarenice

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Amen to that.

Saw a video on my Tiktok FYP yesterday from a young woman joking that anal hurts. I scrolled the comments hoping to see one saying “Don’t do it girl”. Of all the top comments, every single one was giving her advice how to make it less painful. Others were talking about “bleeding every time”. Not ONE suggestion that if you don’t enjoy something sexually, or if it causes you actual physical harm, you can put a boundary in place and say no. But girls are so conditioned to believe that it’s totally normal. Thanks to porn. So depressing.
Must be fucking epic to be a young man these days. Nothing off limits and all centred around porny acts for the male gaze and if the girls not up for it she’s the weird one.
 
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Dotty Merton

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It's so sad, it really pulls on my heart strings this one, when I was a young naive lass wanting to work in the music industry Paula was an example of a woman who wrote, managed kids, worked a vintage look, was rebellious and witty and had a rock n roll career, all the things I thought I wanted to be.

I think that finding out her father wasn't her father would of been a huge and unsettling situation for her combined with the loss of steady old Bob even if she did choose that path. I found out the same thing about my parentage and it threw my world upside down. Also my Mum tried to die when I was a toddler and alone in the house with her. I was 2. I don't remember it happening but I do remember things that happened in the weeks after.

And so, I watch the stories of this family unfold with horror and recognition and understanding and thank my lucky stars my only addictions are to tea, nicotine and snogging. Fortunately my child and their's are settled, healthy and happy. Life really does throw awful curveballs at the worst of times, some of which you can never come back from. I was always determined not to be my Mum, as sad as that seems, it helped me provide a stable upbringing for my own.

I was going to post a couple of weird links I found regarding mention of Roth getting pissed and telling a couple of girlfriends what really happened to Peaches as well as some really weird arsed story about the time she was photographed naked and high by someone claiming it was at the celeb scientology centre but right now, I think I shall I shall make a sweet cuppa and think on Paula, Peaches and my Mum for a mo and count my lucky, normal, suburban stars.
 
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Persephonehasreturned

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Im older than a lot of you I think and remember the custody battle for Tiger Lily very well. She went to Bob, primarily so she could stay with her sisters. Had she gone to live in Australia with Michaels family then she would hardly have seen them. Bob then said ‘anybody would have done the same’ as him, but they really wouldn’t have. I remember my own mum saying she thought Bob deserved a medal for taking Tiger Lily on. He actually adopted her didn’t he? Her name is Hutchence-Geldof.

He did adopt her. I think Jeanne may have too.

A man who would raise the living proof of the affair that ruined his marriage is a rare one. I think it says a lot about Bob Geldof’s character that that he did so, having fought to do so. That wasn’t done out of spite, or one upmanship. What a hollow victory having to parent a child (closely or via nannies) for the rest of their lives would have been if that was the motivation. I think that she had had little to no relationship with her Australian family would have played a part in custody being awarded to Bob. She’d lost both her parents at 4 years old, would it have been morally right to hand her over to biologically related strangers and enforce her losing her sisters too? Surely not.
 
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Account Suspended

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Have not read the thread just thought I would add this to the mix. I am a London Taxi Driver I used to pick Geldolf up when he lived in Tite st Chelsea. He had a real aura of 'orribleness about him and he used to keep his money in a very small womans purse and when he was in company he worked it every time. They would get out, Geldolf would faff about in his purse until one of his mates/collegues got fed up and would say " I will get this" I couldnt stand the man the irony of being as tight as a ducks bum while chugging on Live Aid . Paula used to be lovely Peaches and the other one name forgot would clamber in when very young and they came across as being all very happy.
 
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maytoseptember

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I think someone needs to be done when it comes to educating girls about sex and bodily boundaries if “vanilla” is seen as the most tragic and pathetic thing you can be 🤷‍♀️

It’s no doubt a discussion for another thread but I’m not comfortable with the normalisation of extreme (and sometimes dangerous) sex acts at all.
 
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