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Rekyavikgirl
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Or he could have left her to heal and showed love in other ways?The Gerry Agar book describes the reverence he has for women, sexually. Paula had an infection down below and explained to Michael that sex wasn't possible, he explained that he would work around it sort of thing, and embraced the issue and worked with it, didn't make her feel dirty or uncomfortable, made her feel comfortable and clean if that makes sense? He embraced every part of her womanhood, the good, the uncomfortable, everything, that most men would definitely shy away from. That's as sexy as it comes imho.
RedMagnolia
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Jude Law was cute. I'd have fallen in love with him - except I have subsequently found out he is a) very short b) a rude inconsiderate wanker c) follicly challenged d) wears awful trainers for ££££ e) is incapable of putting on a condom
Nowt wrong with being short or bald, but the rest - fuck off.
Serene Serena
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Belinda was the woman who rang Paula on the morning of her death, and spoke to Tiger, who told her mummy is asleep. She had phoned her to remind her it was Pixie's 10th birthday - I think she was a genuine friend, and the fact she had to phone Paula to remind her it was her daughter's birthday shows what a catastrophic mess Paula was at the time.
veevee04
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I agree with you men are brought up on porn nowadays they were when I was growing up! I've heard lots of stories of men just expecting anal, pressuring and to be able to ram it in with no prepI think someone needs to be done when it comes to educating girls about sex and bodily boundaries if “vanilla” is seen as the most tragic and pathetic thing you can be
It’s no doubt a discussion for another thread but I’m not comfortable with the normalisation of extreme (and sometimes dangerous) sex acts at all.
. Having boundaries is great , women are expected to damage themselves to not be seen as vanilla.
Beverley Macker
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He sounds like a sex pest from that story to be honest 
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.maytoseptember
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The OP of this thread mentions Paula so I don’t see the problem tbh. And, putting it bluntly, everyone is deceased so this chat isn’t exactly taking the thread off topic that much. What I do find weird is the way this thread was totally derailed by someone flexing about how sexually adventurous they areMaybe there needs to be a Paula/Michael thread…
I first smoked it, me and my mates at uni while we were studying our BA; and it made us sick and it did make us nod off. It was quite a socialable occasion in a fucked up way, if you can imagine that? The whole process of sharing the foil, taking our time doing it and what not. But the taste was minging, and it made us all sick as fuck. But that was short lived and after smoking it a few times we just stopped and it was not until a few years later i went back to it (following me becoming dependant on prescribed opiates).
But i realised in my previous post, i didnt really answer the question about how it actually feels. So i will try and explain how it felt to me (and it is nothing like what John travolta said in his prep for Pulp Fiction- get drunk on tequilla and take a hot bath).
So when you smoke, you dont get the initial hit, it slowly creeps up on you, and you still feel it but you dont get that first hit that many people enjoy.
When injected, you feel the most amazing rush- you can literally feel it moving up your arm, into your mouth- i always got a taste in my mouth and then bang, that initial hit is like an orgasm. I cant lie about that, i mean there is a reason why its addictive! If it felt horrible people wouldnt do it. Sometimes my voice turned a bit funny, but generally it gave me a bit of energy- i just to describe it as a "little pick me up" and i really did think i was more productive on it. It also made me itchy! My back would need scratching, i never picked at my face although some people do. I think that is common for all opiates and its due to the histamine in them (i dont know the ins and outs of histamines tho).
When you add crack cocaine into it- i either smoked crack on a pipe which is like cocaine but stronger and hits quicker but doesnt last as long. Or you mix it with the heroin and inject it together; now that takes it to a whole new level and i loved it. And crack cocaine is an "upper" while heroin is a downer so mixed together is a very attractive combination for users.
As i said, i have never fit the typical stereotype of an "addict", i never had to do anything desperate or illegal to obtain money, on the outside i seem like a normal working class/middle class professional, and i kept myself to myself. I also never used other drugs such as pregabalin or valium (here a lot of seasoned users have died over the past year and the one thing they all have in common is they used pregabalin alongside heroin and crack to increase the feelings). I also never spent hundreds of pounds each day, in comparison to other users i probably took a very small amount- just enough to make me feel energised but not enough to cause me to nod off straight away. Although i havent used for ages, i still get cravings every now and then; and these can come out of anywhere. For example, i got a new face wash and the smell of it reminded me of the smell of smoking crack! Sometimes you can get a smell, or taste, or even listening to a certain song can make me have a craving; but im strong enough now not to act on it. I do have BPD and Bipolar2 so that complicates things a bit, i will always be impulsive but with therapy and support i am much better and dealing with things now. The truth is, i probably hated myself and thats why i used. I know i believed i was a nicer person, more productive and more energised on it, plus it made me forget my deep rooted internal problems and issues, and numbed the emotional pain. But now im much better at problem solving as i no longer use when i feel things are too much, i now have to face things head on. But that in itself can be quite scary, especially if you are so used to using and suddenly you have to deal with things sober. But i am much better now, and like i said i take my 20ml of methadone and thats all! I dont even drink anymore.
I know he is a bit of a dickhead but i really enjoy listening to Russel Brand talking about his time as a user- his experiences resonate with me.
Also, there is a French-Canadian doctor called Dr Gabor Mate who is my hero. He is the leading academic plus he is an actual medical doctor who works with addiction and recovery. He is always on youtube and is just amazing. He says addiction is caused in part due to unresolved childhood trauma, and that is so true for me!
BanditHealer
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I could see Paula having a string of toyboys, and also trying to reinvent herself into some sort of wellness guru like a lot of the Primrose Hill set.
She would also publish a sex book about rimming.
She would also publish a sex book about rimming.
Beverley Macker
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Peaches did a photo shoot for ‘hello’ preaching about attachment parenting and painting herself as mum of the year, all whilst her child was in the hospital being weaned off heroin and methodone.
That ain’t decent.
That ain’t decent.
The Yoko Ono of GY
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OK, now you think, sex can only be hot with a tight vagina? Are you a fifteen year old male? Sorry, don’t want to be rude but… there’s so much more to sex than penis into (tight, ofc!) vagina.
RedMagnolia
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The nanny, Anita, was more of a mother to the girls than Paula ever was, and Bob seemed extremely detached from his daughters, particularly during their childhood and early teens.
I often wonder what would have happened if Michael had batted Paula's advances away? Would she have worked on her marriage to Bob? Probably not.
The poem by Phillip Larkin is so true for this family.
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.
I often wonder what would have happened if Michael had batted Paula's advances away? Would she have worked on her marriage to Bob? Probably not.
The poem by Phillip Larkin is so true for this family.
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.
sorry if it’s been mentioned elsewhere but it never seems to come up as part of this sad saga,I've gone down a hole as I googled Belinda and her and Paula's statements after MH death were one of the first things that popped up. I don't know much about Paula but this sounds beyond messy. Also I thought interesting that Paula calls herself his de-facto wife and says they were planning more children. Also interesting that his last phone call was to his first girlfriend, she sounds like she was a very calming influence.
https://www.angelfire.com/music5/archives/hutchstatements.html
Michael Hutchence's first girlfriend. INXS star's 1st love
Michael Hutchence's forgotten girlfriend, Michele Bennett, who spent seven years with the rock band front man and was one of the last people he spoke to before his tragic suicide, is now an Australian film producerwww.dailymail.co.uk
Michael Hutchence had suffered a significant brain injury which, IIRC, his then-girlfriend Helena Christensen said changed his personality.
In 1992, while bicycling in Denmark with Helena, Hutchence collided with a taxi and the driver assaulted him. Hutchence's skull was fractured and his brain bruised leaving him with substantial loss of the sense of smell and partial loss of taste.
Paula herself was a troubled character. Seems as though she got into a relationship with Bob very young.
Paula and Michael met in the mid 80s and Paula was very attracted to Michael from the start. I’ve read rumours that they slept together much earlier than when they were publicly in a relationship and before the big breakfast interview, hence rumours of Pixie being biologically michael’s daughter.
apparently Paula pursued Michael, as opposed to it being a mutual thing. He was in a bad place because of the brain injury, and I think Paula perhaps felt like an easy crutch amidst a deteriorating relationship with Helena, deteriorating physical and mental health and problems with his career.
people have also since come out to say that he intended to leave Paula. It’s pretty telling that he called his ex girlfriend before he died.
I think the saddest part of this story for me is that it wasn’t a great love story. It’s just a story of a group of privileged, troubled people who bounced off each other and dragged each other down.
Tiger Lily seems to have broken the mould, living a quiet life out of the press. Fifi and Pixie less so, but they still seem to be in a better place than the previous generation. I hope the girls and Peaches’ sons break the mould of this sad, unhappy group of people.
Raininvain
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Probably at the absolute total end of his tether and he'd been drinking and taking drugs.
Did anyone read about someone trying to hang themselves in the middle of his funeral?. A man jumped from the church balcony and shouted "this is how he did it Paula".
Beverley Macker
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I’d call someone a sadist if they wanted to perform sexual acts that caused their partner such physical pain they had to take sedatives yeah.
Angelic37
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Are you seriously saying that a woman who has had children has a "baggy" vagina and isn't sexual? He absolutely adored and fancied the fuck out of Paula. What a shallow and awful way you view women who have children, and, in your view, reach the end of their attractive and sexual lives. Wow. You sound like something from the dark ages.
dumdums83
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Yeah fern was probably bored of having to put up with peaches bratty behaviour, I mean the stuff that ended up on show was bad, can you imagine the stuff that didn’t end up on the show. Peaches had no real talent and only got jobs because of her patents.
It’s a cop out to blame her drug addiction on her parents addiction problems, hundreds children grow up with 1 or both parents with addiction and they don’t turn out the same. Bob just gave his daughter money when ever she asked, and didn’t ask why or what for, he turned a blind eye. As for peaches I think she saw drug taking as just a cool thing to do, as she was a sheep and just followed the crowd, it was seen as a kool kid thing back then. No other person is to blame for her death, but peaches herself. She was selfish, she could have got herself into the best rehab facilities money could buy when those babies came along or better yet got her shit together before starting a family but she couldn’t even admit she had a problem. And yea I’m speaking from a point of view of having an addicted parent who lost their battle and turned out alright, I did have my wild days but rained it in before it got out of hand and waiting until I was 30 before starting a family. She was a brat who lived an I want I get and didn’t bloody think. Just cause she spoke with a posh accent and knew how to use big words didn’t mean she was smart, she was dumb and made dumb choices