I wanted to comment on her SM but will get shot down. So I'll pass. I bought in to her ethos, brand whatever but since I have read her book I really felt like something was wrong. It's too vague, makes no sense. I feel absolutely let down by her reaction to this and I would have respected her if she had taken some time and come out with a constructive, evidence based response. Her choosing to set her gang on individuals is bullying by proxy, its childish. She's getting the job done but not getting her hands dirty. Just awful, the whole thing. Influencers have so much responsibility these days, not just to us but their own family. Some need to take a step back and consider this.
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OnlyHere4DComments
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OMFG! Well that took a lot of hours to read every single comment, and every single screen shot.. IMHO, I think most people who donate to PTWM do so because it makes them feel good about themselves, however 90% of people dont really care if she is set up correctly cause they can say "I did my bit, I helped PTWM with the cause against DV".
It's not enough. I was a child of the worse kind of DV, I fled from multiple homes in the middle of the night, sometimes not even being able to even gather shoes! But every single time there was a social worker of some kind, there was police often. Every time someone found out where we were we moved. Up until I left my family home as a 15 year old child, when I couldn't take the abuse anymore. Unless you have been in that situation you have no idea. This was before mobiles and the internet really took off, it took actual leg work to find us, not some jumped up do gooder trying to make a quick buck!
PTWM will never have my respect for what she does, as I don't believe in her. IF she has ever been in that situation then she should KNOW that you NEVER post about someone on social media, it doesn't take a flippin genius to work that out!
I think people have been sucked in (I like Mrs G Fletcher, probs cause I wanted to marry her husband when I was a kid but shhh..
), they have been sucked in because she seems soooooo nice and caring, but would someone who GENUINELY cared about DV survivors and her own children really post the shit she does?
Here is a picture of my puppy, cause everyone loves puppies!
It's not enough. I was a child of the worse kind of DV, I fled from multiple homes in the middle of the night, sometimes not even being able to even gather shoes! But every single time there was a social worker of some kind, there was police often. Every time someone found out where we were we moved. Up until I left my family home as a 15 year old child, when I couldn't take the abuse anymore. Unless you have been in that situation you have no idea. This was before mobiles and the internet really took off, it took actual leg work to find us, not some jumped up do gooder trying to make a quick buck!
PTWM will never have my respect for what she does, as I don't believe in her. IF she has ever been in that situation then she should KNOW that you NEVER post about someone on social media, it doesn't take a flippin genius to work that out!
I think people have been sucked in (I like Mrs G Fletcher, probs cause I wanted to marry her husband when I was a kid but shhh..
), they have been sucked in because she seems soooooo nice and caring, but would someone who GENUINELY cared about DV survivors and her own children really post the shit she does? Here is a picture of my puppy, cause everyone loves puppies!
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lisangel0905
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Not sure if people are talking about my post or not. Clearly I'm not happy, I was outed to half a million people and also I don't want to leave many posts for legal reasons. I was scared to send my daughter to school on Monday for fear of the backlash after the same half a million people saw her face on my profile pic but that does not mean I will condone someone here using my daughter without my permission to lie about Betsy. I don't want anyone to talk about my daughter on the internet again. This person must vaguely know me and perhaps thought they were helping or I wouldn't see the comment? I'm just saying it's not helping and it's not fair. I just want people to know the truth.
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Found the site due to PTWM stories, spent most of my afternoon reading everything 
. I’m unsure what’s going on in all honesty, or who to believe. But I will say that having read it all, I find it strange how ‘Keels’ kept saying she was leaving, or her work was done, or she’s done all she can and will leave it alone now. About 10 times she said she wouldn’t pursue it... then she kept coming back? I understand people wanting answers if the Paypal situation is shady - but what this lady was doing just seemed so extreme? Really going hammer and tong to prove her point. Maybe she is obsessed with PTWM, I suppose we’ll never know. But a lot of people seemed to have believed everything keels said with very little proof (about her speaking to old family members, friends etc) all of that could’ve been made up? This ‘partofthefam’ account could well be her?
Oh I don’t know, it’s fried my brain and I’m new to it all! I do hope if PTWM has been doing anything below belt then this has encouraged her to stop, if nothing else. As for the rest of it, I’m just not sure.
. I’m unsure what’s going on in all honesty, or who to believe. But I will say that having read it all, I find it strange how ‘Keels’ kept saying she was leaving, or her work was done, or she’s done all she can and will leave it alone now. About 10 times she said she wouldn’t pursue it... then she kept coming back? I understand people wanting answers if the Paypal situation is shady - but what this lady was doing just seemed so extreme? Really going hammer and tong to prove her point. Maybe she is obsessed with PTWM, I suppose we’ll never know. But a lot of people seemed to have believed everything keels said with very little proof (about her speaking to old family members, friends etc) all of that could’ve been made up? This ‘partofthefam’ account could well be her?Oh I don’t know, it’s fried my brain and I’m new to it all! I do hope if PTWM has been doing anything below belt then this has encouraged her to stop, if nothing else. As for the rest of it, I’m just not sure.
In fact, the psychopaths are well known to be the heads of charities, CEOs, politicians, etc as they are known for being good at lacking emotion etc and getting the job done so to speak- if you look at cancer research for example- would a moralistic person be happy to take a 7 figure salary from a cancer charity for not actually doing anything? No.
I also have emailed Kidscape, and thrown the weight of my job behind it, so will see if I get the same response. I may not be able to post it on here, depending if they reply with my job in it, or I can redact that part. Anyway. I will of course update.
Wotsit
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Lets set up a paypal for tattle.
"Work is interrupting our ability and we are struggling to find sufficient time to troll people. We want to do so much more trolling of online accounts but are unable to find the time without your help - please can you all subscribe to our paypal so we can give up our day jobs and run the tattle page much more effectively.
I followed PTWM until yesterday. I was so disappointed in her actions. The fund raising I hope will be investigated I'm on the fence with how I feel about that. But outing her apparent trollers and putting them up for bate to her followers to send them online abuse was utterly disgraceful. But I looked at some of these posts, how is three women in her local community liking an article that's within the public interest trolling or bullying her? Then there was the one she tagged the ladies instagram account to, it was a Facebook post, a conversation between her and one of her Facebook friends I noticed the post wasn't public, so again how is that trolling or bullying? Worryingly I found this lady on Facebook very easily her as PTWM named her full name her Facebook profile photo was on the post, her and a little boy!! I Just hope these women and their families are all ok. I've just read some of them have had threats to their children 
If you have this amount of followers comes with some responsibility, shes put these people and families in potential danger as I believe PTWM said she'd never name her trolls due to this.
If you have this amount of followers comes with some responsibility, shes put these people and families in potential danger as I believe PTWM said she'd never name her trolls due to this.The thing that worries me about it all is that you just cannot hold yourself up as an ambassador for DA survivors and offer help without regulation. And I'm talking a minimum of level 3 safeguarding training, specialist DA training, child sexual exploitation add ons, understanding DASH and MARAC procedures and a clear chain of command for escalation. i.e. a safeguarding overall lead with a solid career history covering all of the above who is on call to you're organisation as soon as someone opens an email.
You absolutely cannot work in this capacity (paid or not) without adhering to the criteria for social care intervention, a paper trail with all times and dates and events documented and GDPR regulations.
Sending a website user details of another person in an unsafe position, then later, offering no follow up, contravenes all of the above.
Tbh, even taking the details in the first place does.
You know, if you want to help people on the frontline I'd applaud that 100%, there's a lot of burnout in public service careers..so we as a society benefit from people learning how to care for them.
But it has to be done properly. It's a big undertaking granted, but my advice to PTWM is: Just stop. Take a step back..assess who you're doing this for and how to do it right, before you hurt someone in a way you cant fix on SM.
You absolutely cannot work in this capacity (paid or not) without adhering to the criteria for social care intervention, a paper trail with all times and dates and events documented and GDPR regulations.
Sending a website user details of another person in an unsafe position, then later, offering no follow up, contravenes all of the above.
Tbh, even taking the details in the first place does.
You know, if you want to help people on the frontline I'd applaud that 100%, there's a lot of burnout in public service careers..so we as a society benefit from people learning how to care for them.
But it has to be done properly. It's a big undertaking granted, but my advice to PTWM is: Just stop. Take a step back..assess who you're doing this for and how to do it right, before you hurt someone in a way you cant fix on SM.
I have never read this influencer’s book or followed any of her platforms.
But having a quick look on her blog- why does nobody question the things she is saying.
It goes from the bizzare to the ridiculous!
I can’t understand why all these professionals are using a mummy blogger in cases, liaison officers telling a friend all about a case before it went to trial and repeated it back to her. Crying surgeons- what is this Greys Anatomy?
The story about her daughter, coincidentally a few weeks after being on ITV, highly doubt a girl who was going to fight another girl, was happy to be taken by the hand to head of the year!
Maybe I’m missing something.... it all sounds like complete fantasy.
But having a quick look on her blog- why does nobody question the things she is saying.
It goes from the bizzare to the ridiculous!
I can’t understand why all these professionals are using a mummy blogger in cases, liaison officers telling a friend all about a case before it went to trial and repeated it back to her. Crying surgeons- what is this Greys Anatomy?
The story about her daughter, coincidentally a few weeks after being on ITV, highly doubt a girl who was going to fight another girl, was happy to be taken by the hand to head of the year!
Maybe I’m missing something.... it all sounds like complete fantasy.
Back story. (And a truthful one, not like Rachael’s)
When I was 18. I was in a serious car crash. And very very lucky to be alive. An off duty dr stopped their car and came rushing to me first, luckily because my car was literally a concertina in the middle and I was clearly the youngest. (The other turned out to be a drunk driver and a guy playing chicken on the roads) anyway. Many, many police, ambulances and fire crew turned up, and they very quickly moved away all the other passerby’s that stopped to have a look at the crash. And obviously a few that stopped to check on the other cars etc. But they were thanked and sent on their way.
This dr was ONLY allowed to stay because I broke my neck, and he was holding it still and they didn’t want him to let go. Otherwise he too would have been told to go. The police officer phoned my parents, they came down but were told to stay well out the way... my own parents- I was 18, in critical condition.
The driver that crashed in to me, was taken to the ambulance and checked over, then he was out in a police car and breathalised, where he stayed until they knew if I’d survive or not. After that I don’t know which way he went until he was charged.
So you tell me, Rachael, why you’d be allowed, as a stranger, to stand with holding a driver on the side of the road watching life saving surgery?
Because I had so many vehicles and crew around me I couldn’t see day light. Amazing you could see so clearly what was happening that you can write about it in such detail- so much so the victims family could probably identify the case by your story. If it were even true.
But your story, the way YOU tell it didn’t happen, did it.
When I was 18. I was in a serious car crash. And very very lucky to be alive. An off duty dr stopped their car and came rushing to me first, luckily because my car was literally a concertina in the middle and I was clearly the youngest. (The other turned out to be a drunk driver and a guy playing chicken on the roads) anyway. Many, many police, ambulances and fire crew turned up, and they very quickly moved away all the other passerby’s that stopped to have a look at the crash. And obviously a few that stopped to check on the other cars etc. But they were thanked and sent on their way.
This dr was ONLY allowed to stay because I broke my neck, and he was holding it still and they didn’t want him to let go. Otherwise he too would have been told to go. The police officer phoned my parents, they came down but were told to stay well out the way... my own parents- I was 18, in critical condition.
The driver that crashed in to me, was taken to the ambulance and checked over, then he was out in a police car and breathalised, where he stayed until they knew if I’d survive or not. After that I don’t know which way he went until he was charged.
So you tell me, Rachael, why you’d be allowed, as a stranger, to stand with holding a driver on the side of the road watching life saving surgery?
Because I had so many vehicles and crew around me I couldn’t see day light. Amazing you could see so clearly what was happening that you can write about it in such detail- so much so the victims family could probably identify the case by your story. If it were even true.
But your story, the way YOU tell it didn’t happen, did it.
gulliblenomore
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I'm also an ex follower of ptwm, I really liked her at the beginning and found her light hearted posts quite relatable. That all changed a while back when I got sick to death of the constant ads without her declaring them ads, the constant 'isn't my life perfect' bragging and her general parenting really.
Reading everything on here has been a complete eye opener too, I would absolutely love a newspaper to get involved and reveal some actual factual answers!
Reading everything on here has been a complete eye opener too, I would absolutely love a newspaper to get involved and reveal some actual factual answers!
ChrissyPoo
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Just catching up on here. Something stands out...
No matter what people's views are on Tattle itself, or on PTWM herself - everyone agrees that the PayPal issue needs to be addressed.
Interesting.
No matter what people's views are on Tattle itself, or on PTWM herself - everyone agrees that the PayPal issue needs to be addressed.
Interesting.
I have been dipping in and out of these threads for the past week but had no time to actually post since before it all blew up last week.
The post on ptwm page was an embarrassing circus. I honestly cannot get my head around people feeling sympathy. She stated she had not left her house due to anxiety over ‘trolling’ yet she was sat in her car alone?? Now unless she has a car in her front room I’m sure she would have had to leave her home!
She had an agenda with that story and that agenda was to out keely and send her followers on a witch hunt. She is a very clever woman and went about it in a way she thought would make her look the victim when all she is is the bully ringleader.
Almost a week in and still no evidence of these donations. People commenting saying how dare others ask but if I were to give money to anyone to buy something I am more than entitled to ask where it has went. Then came the fabricated stories of posts being deleted from here showing her support... wait a minute Racheal approximately 3 hours before hand you deleted MY post along with many others politely asking a question so you can bore off with yet again being the victim.
Lastly this whole ‘trolling’ nonsense. We have now reached a point where these idiots on SM really believe they are high and mighty and we all must agree with them. They are so heavily ruled by their own account that they have went into a fantasy land where they truly believe block and delete can be done in real life and that when anyone dares have a differing opinion then they are trolls!!! Myself and I am sure plenty others will speak about friends, neighbours, family and often at times I will gossip about their jobs, situations in their life etc and more than often I don’t agree with things they are doing however this does not make me a bully. This means I live in a society where we have freedom of speech and that m thought and opinions are MY own! Racheal you have created a SM circus that does not give you power over anyone else, sorry to burst your burst your bubble!
The post on ptwm page was an embarrassing circus. I honestly cannot get my head around people feeling sympathy. She stated she had not left her house due to anxiety over ‘trolling’ yet she was sat in her car alone?? Now unless she has a car in her front room I’m sure she would have had to leave her home!
She had an agenda with that story and that agenda was to out keely and send her followers on a witch hunt. She is a very clever woman and went about it in a way she thought would make her look the victim when all she is is the bully ringleader.
Almost a week in and still no evidence of these donations. People commenting saying how dare others ask but if I were to give money to anyone to buy something I am more than entitled to ask where it has went. Then came the fabricated stories of posts being deleted from here showing her support... wait a minute Racheal approximately 3 hours before hand you deleted MY post along with many others politely asking a question so you can bore off with yet again being the victim.
Lastly this whole ‘trolling’ nonsense. We have now reached a point where these idiots on SM really believe they are high and mighty and we all must agree with them. They are so heavily ruled by their own account that they have went into a fantasy land where they truly believe block and delete can be done in real life and that when anyone dares have a differing opinion then they are trolls!!! Myself and I am sure plenty others will speak about friends, neighbours, family and often at times I will gossip about their jobs, situations in their life etc and more than often I don’t agree with things they are doing however this does not make me a bully. This means I live in a society where we have freedom of speech and that m thought and opinions are MY own! Racheal you have created a SM circus that does not give you power over anyone else, sorry to burst your burst your bubble!
Elgato
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I’ve followed the threads from the beginning and not once have I seen anyone wishing the baby dead or any polls.
I have seen a few unsavoury comments about Betsy and josh but they were very much in the minority.
The main concerns were about the donations not being used as they should be and no transparency about charitable donations. Keels produced several emails from the charities in question confirming that the charities had received no money from ptwm.
I can understand why keels deleted everything as she was subject to a doxxing attack for asking very simple questions. Everyone who asked the same question was blocked/deleted or abused so this to me is classic deflection tactics.
This could of been so easily resolved by showing donation receipts to everyone it’s really simple but the silence and continued management of comments says to me there’s something to hide.
I think if you live your life online and profit from living your life online you have to appreciate that people will have opinions on that life. I also think there’s a huge responsibility to safe guard and protect those you purport to help especially very vulnerable women and children.
With regards to her children it’s up to her how she parents them because she’s going to have to deal with the consequences but if there’s been several custody battles then she has a responsibility to safeguard those children until they come of age.
I think she’s been hugely irresponsible and let the money/attention go to her head but that’s on her. I have concerns for the vulnerable people in her life mainly. Money well it’s up to people whether they fund her lifestyle.
It’s too easy to scream troll but much harder to question and scrutinise.
Also want to add,
She sets off a lot of red flags for me as I grew up with a parent like Rachaele and I’ve shared my reasoning on thread 2.
Its very possible she’s managing the situation by using emotive language to deflect from the reality of it. My parent could turn on the waterworks if they didn’t get their own way they’d use bullying to get the control back and involve everyone and anyone to abuse and bully me. Think of it as a puppet pulling the strings.
I will say it’s my own personal experience and others may view it differently but it’s certainly triggered memories in me.
I have seen a few unsavoury comments about Betsy and josh but they were very much in the minority.
The main concerns were about the donations not being used as they should be and no transparency about charitable donations. Keels produced several emails from the charities in question confirming that the charities had received no money from ptwm.
I can understand why keels deleted everything as she was subject to a doxxing attack for asking very simple questions. Everyone who asked the same question was blocked/deleted or abused so this to me is classic deflection tactics.
This could of been so easily resolved by showing donation receipts to everyone it’s really simple but the silence and continued management of comments says to me there’s something to hide.
I think if you live your life online and profit from living your life online you have to appreciate that people will have opinions on that life. I also think there’s a huge responsibility to safe guard and protect those you purport to help especially very vulnerable women and children.
With regards to her children it’s up to her how she parents them because she’s going to have to deal with the consequences but if there’s been several custody battles then she has a responsibility to safeguard those children until they come of age.
I think she’s been hugely irresponsible and let the money/attention go to her head but that’s on her. I have concerns for the vulnerable people in her life mainly. Money well it’s up to people whether they fund her lifestyle.
It’s too easy to scream troll but much harder to question and scrutinise.
Also want to add,
She sets off a lot of red flags for me as I grew up with a parent like Rachaele and I’ve shared my reasoning on thread 2.
Its very possible she’s managing the situation by using emotive language to deflect from the reality of it. My parent could turn on the waterworks if they didn’t get their own way they’d use bullying to get the control back and involve everyone and anyone to abuse and bully me. Think of it as a puppet pulling the strings.
I will say it’s my own personal experience and others may view it differently but it’s certainly triggered memories in me.
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Plasticeyes
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I also can't get my head around a member of public stood next to a paramedic watching them work on a dying patient.
I must live in an alternative Devon.
I must live in an alternative Devon.
Hi all, new person here 
I’ve spent the last 24 hours reading all 3 threads and wanted to say my bit, ideally to keeley but I see she’s no longer here so hopefully someone who speaks with her can pass it on.
There were a few points in threads 2 and 3 where keels was called obsessive and it was suggested she’s put herself out there so any retaliation is fair game (not exact wording, I’m paraphrasing). I just wanted to say that from what I saw, keels asked at least 3 times for people’s views on whether or not she should continue. All occasions were met with encouragement. At least once she said she was backing off because she wasn’t comfortable. I can honestly say from my perspective that keels has done the right thing by investigating this and good on her. It’s a shame that her article has been removed as I’d have liked to read it.
Everything she posted on here was completely fair and didn’t once cross the line. She’s been open and honest about her own personal life and she certainly didn’t deserve to have to go into online hiding because of the backlash.
If there’s nothing to hide, show your hand. Only people who are actively trying to be deceptive react in the way ptwm and her followers have.
I used to like ptwm but unfollowed a while ago for similar reasons as others have already posted, along with Mrs hinch.
It’s a shame the internet has given unscrupulous people a platform to deceive and profit from others good intentions, hopefully we will all in future examine things more closely before parting with money most of us can ill afford.
#teamkeels
I’ve spent the last 24 hours reading all 3 threads and wanted to say my bit, ideally to keeley but I see she’s no longer here so hopefully someone who speaks with her can pass it on.
There were a few points in threads 2 and 3 where keels was called obsessive and it was suggested she’s put herself out there so any retaliation is fair game (not exact wording, I’m paraphrasing). I just wanted to say that from what I saw, keels asked at least 3 times for people’s views on whether or not she should continue. All occasions were met with encouragement. At least once she said she was backing off because she wasn’t comfortable. I can honestly say from my perspective that keels has done the right thing by investigating this and good on her. It’s a shame that her article has been removed as I’d have liked to read it.
Everything she posted on here was completely fair and didn’t once cross the line. She’s been open and honest about her own personal life and she certainly didn’t deserve to have to go into online hiding because of the backlash.
If there’s nothing to hide, show your hand. Only people who are actively trying to be deceptive react in the way ptwm and her followers have.
I used to like ptwm but unfollowed a while ago for similar reasons as others have already posted, along with Mrs hinch.
It’s a shame the internet has given unscrupulous people a platform to deceive and profit from others good intentions, hopefully we will all in future examine things more closely before parting with money most of us can ill afford.
#teamkeels
elizabeth85
New member
Am I the only person flabbergasted that Rachel was in charge of calling the families of the people involved in the accident to inform them of the incident? Even though she is not an officer herself, has received no training, on safeguarding or clearly data protection as she plastered all the details all over the internet and in her words was having a panic attack and vomiting but was then calm and collected enough to call said people with such devastating news. I wonder how she introduced herself to the families on the phone? She's either completely deluded or Devon and Cornwall police have a lot of explaining to do.
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I don't know who this person is, but your comment is spot on. We get that so much here.
Like Twitter anyone can make an account and make a vile comment here. But on tattle it doesn't stay and is usually deleted minutes after being reported as all reports are taken seriously. You'd never call everyone on twitter one homogeneous group and it's the same for here. But for them it's easy to concentrate on 1 or 2 unsavoury messages to ignore the thousands of valid questions.
So many are lying about what is posted here to fit their own agenda. We have a zero tolerance policy towards anything hateful and are far stricter than the big social media platforms.
Tablesalt222
Member
I was also a 'fan', well not a fan but I followed her and thought she does good things, she probably does.
I only stumbled across this site as she mentioned it so I was curious.
I don't understand - she could have shut it all down instantly by showing where the donations went, that's all. If you have nothing to hide and people are giving you money then they have every right to ask. It's not about bullying it's just a legitimate question about where people's money is going.
If it were me I would have straight away said I understand concerns and here you are, here's the bank transfers to refuges etc
I can't help but think that by not addressing this and going off tangent there is something to hide.
And there's nothing wrong with people asking, no one is accusing her of stealing etc. If I were her and I'd done nothing wrong ( she may not have) wouldn't you want to prove them wrong?
I only stumbled across this site as she mentioned it so I was curious.
I don't understand - she could have shut it all down instantly by showing where the donations went, that's all. If you have nothing to hide and people are giving you money then they have every right to ask. It's not about bullying it's just a legitimate question about where people's money is going.
If it were me I would have straight away said I understand concerns and here you are, here's the bank transfers to refuges etc
I can't help but think that by not addressing this and going off tangent there is something to hide.
And there's nothing wrong with people asking, no one is accusing her of stealing etc. If I were her and I'd done nothing wrong ( she may not have) wouldn't you want to prove them wrong?
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