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Just been nosing at this. My goodness people are so naive!! 'She's married to a police officer' 'she has a huge online presence' what like 500k less than MOD?!!On FOD’s latest post
I can't find the prwm comments. Are they on MOD instagram post?Just been nosing at this. My goodness people are so naive!! 'She's married to a police officer' 'she has a huge online presence' what like 500k less than MOD?!!
It's on FODs latest grid post, dog in a forest, you have to scroll a bit.I can't find the prwm comments. Are they on MOD instagram post?
A fair bit of scrolling indeedIt's on FODs latest grid post, dog in a forest, you have to scroll a bit.
I know, as if a police officer could ever do anything or be involved with anyone dodgyJust been nosing at this. My goodness people are so naive!! 'She's married to a police officer' 'she has a huge online presence' what like 500k less than MOD?!!
This is everything. Couldn’t love you more if I triedGood morning Tattlers; new and old.
I’ve had a look at Louisa Zissman’s stories after reading about them on MOD’s thread. I’m so glad she’s understanding what Tattle is all about... it’s just gossip, with some unpleasant comments that are easy to scroll past and some valid, articulate discussions regarding our concerns about some of these influencers.
I’m intrigued at PTWM’s sudden decision to have a social media break - probably the first time she’s done so and that phone is glued to her hand... could it be that she’s concerned about the press catching on to the PayPal scandal? About how her followers set up a PayPal donation account to save PTWM’s house - but no one knows where those donations have gone to? They’re still renting the house.
Could it be that she’s worried that the press will find out that she’s lied about the ‘stranger on the bridge’ and ‘the young mum in Mothercare’ stories that were shared thousands of times and propelled her to this platform as a Champion of Vulnerable Women?
Is she panicking that Tattlers are finally getting recognition for not being a group of vipers and trolls as she regularly spouts, but that we are a group of honest, decent women (mostly, am sure there are men, too) who are sick of these scammers. Sick of these social media influencers shoving #ad after #ad at us when we can’t afford that lifestyle. Portraying this wonderful family life when they’re #gifted this and that. STOP.
PTWM is an ambassador for Kidscape yet her young daughter has a TicToc account; by the way new readers and lurkers... Tattlers found that video of PTWM dancing on TicToc first and PTWM saw it was shared here - that’s why she uploaded it, to ‘normalise it’. The reason we were appalled though was PTWM had just written a long post about not being able to move after ‘having her stomach sliced in two’ but she was dancing with her daughter? Then we were concerned and toyed with the idea of contacting school - because of T’s public TicToc account. We debated this and decided against it, so no-one did. Not one of us here reported it to the school.
PTWM has built her name on being a Domestic Abuse advocate. And this here is where I became a Tattle member as that is my background. A DA advocate does not invite vulnerable victims into their home and nor do they show pictures of these women (and their children) on their social media accounts. I was appalled at the lack of safeguarding PTWM displayed - inviting strangers into her home - we as support workers of vulnerable service users are not allowed to disclose our personal details.
We have women telling their partner which refuge they’re in and have the perpetrator turn up, so we have to move her to keep herself and other families safe. What would PTWM have done had this happened at her door? How has she managed to find refuge space for six women in a week when I have to send a woman back to the perpetrator on a Friday afternoon because no refuge in the nearby counties have a space?
An advocate of DA does not film her husband, without his knowledge, and post it without his consent. She posted several stories/videos filming Josh complaining about something related to the family or housework. It was a private conversation between husband and wife but she uploaded them. Now, had a man uploaded videos of his wife complaining - there would be uproar. It would be abusive.
An advocate of DA does not tell her followers the whereabouts of a homeless person’s staying place. Nor do they discuss the fact he has a broken tent. They don’t upload a picture with the cost of a new tent (who’s benefit was that for?); they don’t video the Mother in Law laughing and making fun of a torch that “looks like a tampax”. They don’t say “it’s been a nice day out” when they’ve been out to hand these new camping equipment to the man in question. HE did not ask for his story to be told. HE did not ask for sympathy nor donations. They intruded on his personal space.
PTWM shared a story (and this is how I heard about Tattle), where she was distressed and hurt about some of the comments about her. I wasn’t following PTWM but I was following Knee Deep in Life who wanted everyone to support and love PTWM. Anyway, I was moved by this video of a pregnant vulnerable woman and horrified at Tattle Life. But I’m glad I was nosy enough to come and have a read because I have had my eyes opened so much.
I feel like I could be Wilby’s nanny - I know everything about him. PTWM’s eldest daughter, Betsy, has a boyfriend and PTWM even tags him - why? Where is the safety in this? Her children are constantly filmed. It’s #ad after #ad yet in her rant about Tattle she was crying saying she gives her last £20 to strangers. Hang on a minute... she’s wearing a £250 Stella McCartney coat and Josh has a £250 Stone Roses coat. So - where’s the PayPal donations? She’s able to go on holidays, often eats out. That’s not reflective of the lifestyle of her followers.
Anyone who’s ever tried to ask them about PayPal are ‘blocked’. KDIL even blocked me because I’d ‘liked’ a comment asking where the donations were. Why not be accountable? You can’t put yourself out to the internet and not accept that there will be backlash? You’ve got to be transparent. I’ve found that those who want Tattle to be taken down (PTWM and her husband), usually have something to hide. PTWM’s artist friend even called one of us a ‘c**t’ when asked a question. Is that being kind?
PTWM advocates for kindness but she had an affair with Josh whilst he was married? And for those of you who’ve thought of his ex-wife as some drunk, how many of us would turn to drink if our husband left us on our son’s birthday? And how many of you would turn to drink if you weren’t allowed to see your children but the whole world could, because your sons are always on PTWM’s posts? We know more about S and I than their mother does. How bloody sad?
And that book you’ve all loved reading... did you notice she’d given someone the pseudo name ‘Sam’. Yeah, that’s the ex-wife’s name too. Can we really relate to a woman who writes about her family members for the world to know?
Now, I’m not a viper. I’m someone who’s been in and out of refuges as a child and adult. I was physically beaten by my mum when she was an alcoholic, I was so happy when her partner died of a heroin overdose cos he would have killed my mum, and it would mean no more kicking my bedroom door at night. But I’d never write about this in public because she’s my mum. People would treat her differently. It’s respect. You can’t sell your family.
PTWM had a healthy eating campaign recently but her children regularly have breakfasts in McDonald’s and she’s got an #ad with Nutella?
This woman claims to champion empowerment but she portrays herself as weak, needy and dependent. She phones her husband at his work place when she wants something... she doesn’t do any housework and has the luxury of a cleaner. She forgot to do the online food shop one day and complained about how he kids had to have fruit and yoghurt for breakfast, I work with families who’s children go to school’s Breakfast Club because they don’t have anything in. But she managed to get her nails and lashes done?
Look at the bigger picture and do not be drawn in by this false Instagram social media bullshit. Be critical. Ask yourself if this is true. Does she really work with refuges - or does she simply send #gifted donations on? Does she sit in an office applying for benefits and grants for a mother who’s left an abusive man, does she badger housing associations for a property for a family, does she attend Marac cases and put safety plans in place to stop another woman being murdered?
How many times has she mentioned Rosie Duffield’s speech? Moving, raw... 0 times. How many times has she mentioned the Domestic Abuse Bill? 0 times. But this is her USP?
I work x2 jobs and can’t afford their lifestyle, but I’m fucking honest and hardworking. Tattlers, enjoy your families, your health, love each other and do an act of kindness each day without posting it online. Be real. Warmth, food and a roof. We don’t need designer crap and expensive holidays. We need integrity. Have a lovely day
ThisSo there’s a truly interesting discussion happening on twitter about MOD and one of my comments gained a bit of attention. I also commented about PTWM and how I followed her for ages but the homeless man stories made me feel ill and the donations was so dodgy. I did tag her because tbh, I use Twitter a lot and I’m just in the habit of @ people. Anyway, I’ve been blocked by her on Twitter, which I do understand and in fairness I shouldn’t have tagged her. (If you’re reading this, i apologise!)
I just want to say, I 100% do NOT condone any of the bullying/nasty type comments that occasionally appear on this thread, I’ve said that before. I DO think we’re entitled to have a space to discuss the ethics, morals and safeguarding of the people who choose to broadcast their entire lives to the world. It’s their choice but it’s an extremely interesting social discussion, especially when people have been ripped off or don’t feel their donations are being spent how they thought they were.
I also think this about ADs. There’s so many ways to make money online, YouTube being the number one. I’d have so much more respect for these influencers if they made YT videos and profited via Adsense. Instagram is such a personal platform and it means adverts are much more targeted and effective which can lead to vulnerable people buying things they can’t afford because they believe their ‘friend’ is recommending it.
On FOD’s latest post
All of this! I have to say that the pram thing REALLY stuck in my throat. To accept a #gifted pram that costs the same as a small car and then in practically the same breath ask people to donate their second hand prams was utterly and breathtakingly astonishing! (The MOD thread directed me to @isablog on insta this morning. He’s had an amazing rant about it on his stories - be interesting to get his take on the #pram side of things.......)ThisI don’t condone the nasty comments, but neither do I focus on them - just scroll past. I also think this should be a space for us to discuss issues anonymously - I’m not bullying anyone when I highlight concerns regarding ethics and safeguarding. I’m definitely not a troll either; I’d never think of posting hatred on anyone’s page and I disagree with people running petitions to remove Tattle. I’ve read some far worse things on Mumsnet and many threads there have turned out to be by a troll.
The issue for me is the demographic population that PTWM has in comparison to Clemmie; Clemmie is from a middle class family, she and her husband are professionals and their children are privately educated. They’ve both made a career from Instagram and everything they wear, use, buy etc it’s all higher end. I read they’ve around £250,000 in the bank - again, well done to them. They’ve worked for it. I don’t think they’ve exploited anyone (other than their own children and children’s privacy but that’s another thread). In contrast, PTWM has always appealed to those women who cannot afford clothes from Boden. They cannot afford nannies and they usually feel like “shit mums” because they’ve got some parenting stuff wrong.
PTWM’s followers look up to her because they see her as someone who’s come from hardship and now has this wonderful husband and life - and this is upsetting because I don’t want to think of women sitting at home, struggling with life and thinking of PTWM as their hero.
Her USP is DA, she isn’t a professional like Clemmie who is a trained and qualified midwife. Clemmie can have podcast and books based on midwifery. PTWM doesn’t have this so she’s latched on to DA. Now, DA affects victims from all paths in life but I’m going to hazard a guess that the majority of PTWM’s followers are vulnerable; lower end pay scale, lower status in work or on welfare benefits and do not have the ability to think critically. Notice how many women say they’ve cried reading her book; so that to me sounds like these women have faced some hardships, trauma and pain and can relate to the book. Has she stuck to writing books and blogs I’d probably not paid much interest to her, but...
1) PTWM has never been in a refuge herself, she also perpetrated violence against her ex-partner. Her mental health could be a factor; but should never be an excuse. I don’t want to think of anyone thinking it’s okay to hold a knife to someone because they’ve been mentally unwell. Get help.
2) She wants to empower women but she depends massively on J for practical tasks. Women all over the world manage to get their children washed, dressed and fed then into school on time every morning. But she tries to normalise and almost celebrate being late, or ‘yay we got to school on time’. This isn’t empowering other mothers who don’t have any help and still do it without fuss.
3) PTWM’s mother in law comes over to cook and clean, she also has a cleaner and many animals. She has a dog walker. She can afford expensive haircuts and clothes, regular lashes and nails. Now I’ve got a few service users who get their lashes done and then ask me to provide a food bank parcel because they’ve mismanaged their benefits. PTWM sent a Tesco shop to the wrong address and sat on her doorstep complaining how she was a shit mum. You and I would have got in the car, given the kids sweets to keep them quiet and got shit done. Betsy even offered to babysit and told her mum that it was her own mistake that she should fix. PTWM refused. Josh had to go after a 10 hour shift at work. That to me isn’t a strong independent woman and she isn’t setting a good example to vulnerable women (like my s/u) who look up to her.
4) She gets sent ridiculous amount of gifted tat and clothes, but bangs on about climate change? She was gifted Halloween tat from Tesco and still bought some more. She could use her platform to highlight reducing plastic.
5) She had a Go fund Me account set up but it was worded cleverly, something along the lines of the funds helping her to save warriors. But there was also a PayPal account that her followers on Facebook set up in November 2017, after she wrote that the landlord wanted to sell the house. Her friend gave them PTWM’s bank details. And I’m now doubting there even was a ‘Gabriella’. There haven’t been any breakdowns in where these funds have gone to. Are people still paying PayPal donations? Because I’ve been keeping an eye on her account (on Gramster, because she blocked me) and all I’ve seen since June is her sending #gifted things on to Trevi House.
6) She writes “I’m working with”, “I’ve been doing work with” but this could be just sending gifted things on. But her followers probably think of her as this amazing woman who works morning to night. She doesn’t really get up from the sofa much, from what I can see.
7) I have an issue with showing pictures and videos of two boys who aren’t allowed to see their mum, when the whole world can. There are
Clever apps that can hide their faces. There’s no need is there?
8) She’s just not transparent. I hate these #ads bullshit but if you’re going to say you’re running a healthy ad campaign and get a videographer to film your children running in the beach, don’t spend £20 on McDonald’s breakfast the next day.
If you’re going to say you spend your last £20 on a vulnerable woman, don’t wear £250 coats, £290 boots and a £60 Hera jumper you got for an anniversary.
And also... she asked her followers to send in donations of pushchairs but accepted a £900 gifted pram the same week? Is that ethical? No.
And for the love of God can she please stop calling women ‘warriors’.
Thank you for mentioning @isablog! I’d never heard of him but just watched his stories and LOVED them! And erm... judging by his accent we may be neighboursAll of this! I have to say that the pram thing REALLY stuck in my throat. To accept a #gifted pram that costs the same as a small car and then in practically the same breath ask people to donate their second hand prams was utterly and breathtakingly astonishing! (The MOD thread directed me to @isablog on insta this morning. He’s had an amazing rant about it on his stories - be interesting to get his take on the #pram side of things.......)
Rachaelaele when you read thisThisI don’t condone the nasty comments, but neither do I focus on them - just scroll past. I also think this should be a space for us to discuss issues anonymously - I’m not bullying anyone when I highlight concerns regarding ethics and safeguarding. I’m definitely not a troll either; I’d never think of posting hatred on anyone’s page and I disagree with people running petitions to remove Tattle. I’ve read some far worse things on Mumsnet and many threads there have turned out to be by a troll.
The issue for me is the demographic population that PTWM has in comparison to Clemmie; Clemmie is from a middle class family, she and her husband are professionals and their children are privately educated. They’ve both made a career from Instagram and everything they wear, use, buy etc it’s all higher end. I read they’ve around £250,000 in the bank - again, well done to them. They’ve worked for it. I don’t think they’ve exploited anyone (other than their own children and children’s privacy but that’s another thread). In contrast, PTWM has always appealed to those women who cannot afford clothes from Boden. They cannot afford nannies and they usually feel like “shit mums” because they’ve got some parenting stuff wrong.
PTWM’s followers look up to her because they see her as someone who’s come from hardship and now has this wonderful husband and life - and this is upsetting because I don’t want to think of women sitting at home, struggling with life and thinking of PTWM as their hero.
Her USP is DA, she isn’t a professional like Clemmie who is a trained and qualified midwife. Clemmie can have podcast and books based on midwifery. PTWM doesn’t have this so she’s latched on to DA. Now, DA affects victims from all paths in life but I’m going to hazard a guess that the majority of PTWM’s followers are vulnerable; lower end pay scale, lower status in work or on welfare benefits and do not have the ability to think critically. Notice how many women say they’ve cried reading her book; so that to me sounds like these women have faced some hardships, trauma and pain and can relate to the book. Has she stuck to writing books and blogs I’d probably not paid much interest to her, but...
1) PTWM has never been in a refuge herself, she also perpetrated violence against her ex-partner. Her mental health could be a factor; but should never be an excuse. I don’t want to think of anyone thinking it’s okay to hold a knife to someone because they’ve been mentally unwell. Get help.
2) She wants to empower women but she depends massively on J for practical tasks. Women all over the world manage to get their children washed, dressed and fed then into school on time every morning. But she tries to normalise and almost celebrate being late, or ‘yay we got to school on time’. This isn’t empowering other mothers who don’t have any help and still do it without fuss.
3) PTWM’s mother in law comes over to cook and clean, she also has a cleaner and many animals. She has a dog walker. She can afford expensive haircuts and clothes, regular lashes and nails. Now I’ve got a few service users who get their lashes done and then ask me to provide a food bank parcel because they’ve mismanaged their benefits. PTWM sent a Tesco shop to the wrong address and sat on her doorstep complaining how she was a shit mum. You and I would have got in the car, given the kids sweets to keep them quiet and got shit done. Betsy even offered to babysit and told her mum that it was her own mistake that she should fix. PTWM refused. Josh had to go after a 10 hour shift at work. That to me isn’t a strong independent woman and she isn’t setting a good example to vulnerable women (like my s/u) who look up to her.
4) She gets sent ridiculous amount of gifted tat and clothes, but bangs on about climate change? She was gifted Halloween tat from Tesco and still bought some more. She could use her platform to highlight reducing plastic.
5) She had a Go fund Me account set up but it was worded cleverly, something along the lines of the funds helping her to save warriors. But there was also a PayPal account that her followers on Facebook set up in November 2017, after she wrote that the landlord wanted to sell the house. Her friend gave them PTWM’s bank details. And I’m now doubting there even was a ‘Gabriella’. There haven’t been any breakdowns in where these funds have gone to. Are people still paying PayPal donations? Because I’ve been keeping an eye on her account (on Gramster, because she blocked me) and all I’ve seen since June is her sending #gifted things on to Trevi House.
6) She writes “I’m working with”, “I’ve been doing work with” but this could be just sending gifted things on. But her followers probably think of her as this amazing woman who works morning to night. She doesn’t really get up from the sofa much, from what I can see.
7) I have an issue with showing pictures and videos of two boys who aren’t allowed to see their mum, when the whole world can. There are
Clever apps that can hide their faces. There’s no need is there?
8) She’s just not transparent. I hate these #ads bullshit but if you’re going to say you’re running a healthy ad campaign and get a videographer to film your children running in the beach, don’t spend £20 on McDonald’s breakfast the next day.
If you’re going to say you spend your last £20 on a vulnerable woman, don’t wear £250 coats, £290 boots and a £60 Hera jumper you got for an anniversary.
And also... she asked her followers to send in donations of pushchairs but accepted a £900 gifted pram the same week? Is that ethical? No.
And for the love of God can she please stop calling women ‘warriors’.
Screen shot pleasetis moi
Id bloody love it if she did !Did aliceinwanderlust ever post on this sight?
I meant site or this thread lolId bloody love it if she did !
She has been in refuge hasn’t she? With her eldest two? I’ve read her book and I’m sure she references that time. Wouldn’t want to spread anything false about her, especially not if it’s DA related as I can imagine that was a truly awful thing to have to go throughThisI don’t condone the nasty comments, but neither do I focus on them - just scroll past. I also think this should be a space for us to discuss issues anonymously - I’m not bullying anyone when I highlight concerns regarding ethics and safeguarding. I’m definitely not a troll either; I’d never think of posting hatred on anyone’s page and I disagree with people running petitions to remove Tattle. I’ve read some far worse things on Mumsnet and many threads there have turned out to be by a troll.
The issue for me is the demographic population that PTWM has in comparison to Clemmie; Clemmie is from a middle class family, she and her husband are professionals and their children are privately educated. They’ve both made a career from Instagram and everything they wear, use, buy etc it’s all higher end. I read they’ve around £250,000 in the bank - again, well done to them. They’ve worked for it. I don’t think they’ve exploited anyone (other than their own children and children’s privacy but that’s another thread). In contrast, PTWM has always appealed to those women who cannot afford clothes from Boden. They cannot afford nannies and they usually feel like “shit mums” because they’ve got some parenting stuff wrong.
PTWM’s followers look up to her because they see her as someone who’s come from hardship and now has this wonderful husband and life - and this is upsetting because I don’t want to think of women sitting at home, struggling with life and thinking of PTWM as their hero.
Her USP is DA, she isn’t a professional like Clemmie who is a trained and qualified midwife. Clemmie can have podcast and books based on midwifery. PTWM doesn’t have this so she’s latched on to DA. Now, DA affects victims from all paths in life but I’m going to hazard a guess that the majority of PTWM’s followers are vulnerable; lower end pay scale, lower status in work or on welfare benefits and do not have the ability to think critically. Notice how many women say they’ve cried reading her book; so that to me sounds like these women have faced some hardships, trauma and pain and can relate to the book. Has she stuck to writing books and blogs I’d probably not paid much interest to her, but...
1) PTWM has never been in a refuge herself, she also perpetrated violence against her ex-partner. Her mental health could be a factor; but should never be an excuse. I don’t want to think of anyone thinking it’s okay to hold a knife to someone because they’ve been mentally unwell. Get help.
2) She wants to empower women but she depends massively on J for practical tasks. Women all over the world manage to get their children washed, dressed and fed then into school on time every morning. But she tries to normalise and almost celebrate being late, or ‘yay we got to school on time’. This isn’t empowering other mothers who don’t have any help and still do it without fuss.
3) PTWM’s mother in law comes over to cook and clean, she also has a cleaner and many animals. She has a dog walker. She can afford expensive haircuts and clothes, regular lashes and nails. Now I’ve got a few service users who get their lashes done and then ask me to provide a food bank parcel because they’ve mismanaged their benefits. PTWM sent a Tesco shop to the wrong address and sat on her doorstep complaining how she was a shit mum. You and I would have got in the car, given the kids sweets to keep them quiet and got shit done. Betsy even offered to babysit and told her mum that it was her own mistake that she should fix. PTWM refused. Josh had to go after a 10 hour shift at work. That to me isn’t a strong independent woman and she isn’t setting a good example to vulnerable women (like my s/u) who look up to her.
4) She gets sent ridiculous amount of gifted tat and clothes, but bangs on about climate change? She was gifted Halloween tat from Tesco and still bought some more. She could use her platform to highlight reducing plastic.
5) She had a Go fund Me account set up but it was worded cleverly, something along the lines of the funds helping her to save warriors. But there was also a PayPal account that her followers on Facebook set up in November 2017, after she wrote that the landlord wanted to sell the house. Her friend gave them PTWM’s bank details. And I’m now doubting there even was a ‘Gabriella’. There haven’t been any breakdowns in where these funds have gone to. Are people still paying PayPal donations? Because I’ve been keeping an eye on her account (on Gramster, because she blocked me) and all I’ve seen since June is her sending #gifted things on to Trevi House.
6) She writes “I’m working with”, “I’ve been doing work with” but this could be just sending gifted things on. But her followers probably think of her as this amazing woman who works morning to night. She doesn’t really get up from the sofa much, from what I can see.
7) I have an issue with showing pictures and videos of two boys who aren’t allowed to see their mum, when the whole world can. There are
Clever apps that can hide their faces. There’s no need is there?
8) She’s just not transparent. I hate these #ads bullshit but if you’re going to say you’re running a healthy ad campaign and get a videographer to film your children running in the beach, don’t spend £20 on McDonald’s breakfast the next day.
If you’re going to say you spend your last £20 on a vulnerable woman, don’t wear £250 coats, £290 boots and a £60 Hera jumper you got for an anniversary.
And also... she asked her followers to send in donations of pushchairs but accepted a £900 gifted pram the same week? Is that ethical? No.
And for the love of God can she please stop calling women ‘warriors’.
nope, got absolutely nothing.Aww bless you. Some people commented that they were doing £5, £10 and some even more. Which is a wonderful thing to do to try and help people that need it, just a shame PTWM was too greedy to distribute it where it was supposed to have gone.
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