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[Yel]

Is this progress?

 

[Yel]

It was more about the housing market to be honest.

Is it slut shaming? I'd have thought that's a toally different thing to online selling of yourself?

a girl buys her own home selling pictures of herself online and people seem to lose their minds

I don't think anyone has lost their mind over this, mostly seen people sad that it's what people need to do to get secure housing.

Only fans accounts often starts off with slightly spicy photos and then goes towards more and more explicit stuff. I think the "just selling a few photos" thing does misrepresent what seems to happen.

 

[x_bethanyy]

Some (not all) OnlyFans content creators don't seem to realise that OF won't be around forever. Maybe they are earning thousands a month now (although most of them aren't), what happens in a few years when OF is no longer profitable, what about when they get older and are no longer attractive to the audience they've earned.

The ones who have quit their jobs or careers now have a gap in their work experience that they have to explain to future employers, maybe the industry they worked in has advanced and they no longer have any marketable skills, maybe their qualifications are outdated.

Once they get into it and make it their full-time career they may find themself stuck in the sex work industry for the rest of their lives, or having to start their careers from square one.
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It's interesting how OF let's users know what percentage of earners they fall into. I've been looking on Reddit at the self-reported earnings of content creators and their percentile to get an insight into if it really is as lucrative as some have been making it out to be.

According to someone on Reddit they are in around the top 50% or earners, and they are making US $50 (£40 or €46) per month. So half of the people who have an only fans account are making less than $50 per month.

Some more reported earnings are:

Top 43% making $100.
Top 27% making $280.
Top 15% making $500.
Top 13% making $600.

It's only once you get into the top 10% that you apparently begin to make over $1000 per month.

Top 6% earning $1400.
Top 3% earning $1800.

Only the top 2.5% earn over $2000 per month. That's USD, so around £1600 GBP, €1800 EUR or $3000 AUD per month.

Now I'm sure there are lots of inactive accounts that mess with the percentages a little. But less than 2% of OF content creators are earning above $24,000 USD, £20,000 GBP or €22,000 EUR a year.

Bearing in mind a lot of people who reported these numbers said that this is their earnings overall, before OF takes their 20% cut and before tax.

I'm sure those who already have a big following, or these who both put in a huge amount of effort and get lucky can earn more than they would working a 'regular' job, but it's really not a "side hustle" that will be profitable for the average Joe (or Jane) on the street.

 

[daydreamer95]

There is a woman in her 30s who lives locally to me, she has been doing OnlyFans for a couple of years now. She has gone further and further and further with what she does. She went from doing soft, glamour type stuff to now doing anal videos and meet ups with other “content craters” to do lesbian content and the other day one of them took her strap-on virginity. She is posting full on, legs open nudes with bolt on fake boobs on display on her Twitter to lure the sad sods to her OF. Listen no judgment from me, but bear in mind she has a son who is about 12 and a daughter of about 5. It’s harrowing to imagine their classmates finding this stuff and showing them. Would you ever get over that? I doubt it. These women don’t seem to care about the consequences of all this on their loved ones.

The worst example I’ve heard of as far as webcamming is concerned, was a young woman who did a 1-2-1 with a punter who had a plastic bag fetish and he talked her into putting a plastic bag over her head She suffocated and he watched her die over webcam without calling her an ambulance. The police wanted to do him for manslaughter but he topped himself before they could.

Read about that case here:

Mum of girl killed in sex role play slams online sex trade

Hope Barden, 21, who worked as a carer in Burton, died from aphyxiation while performing sex acts to a webcam

www.derbytelegraph.co.uk

So I would just say to anyone who chooses to take this path, you need to make your boundaries crystal clear and don’t ever feel that you “have“ to do something.

Most probably do start with boundaries imo it’s a slippery slope according to articles the man who would have stood trial if he didn’t off himself got her to perform increasingly degrading / dangerous acts over a period of 3 months culminating with the bag on her head and ligature

Why are the press not naming the platform?

Also found it strange they say flat mate found Hope Barden so the scene would have included her with bag / ligature and whatever camera set up she was using laptop or phone so why did the police tell family she committed suicide?

The sister told them about a man called Cable tie it’s because of the family he was arrested for extreme images, the fact the sister says he sat back and watched while she died makes me think he took screenshots as she was dying how many more sickos like this out there?

From The Mail - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cam-client-police-perverts-sick-messages.html

“The sister of a graduate who strangled herself as her webcam client sat back and watched has revealed that police thought the 21-year-old had taken her own life until she pushed for them to investigate further.

Lily Barden, 23, has spoken out about she put police onto a pervert's messages after they initially thought that her sister, Hope, had hanged herself.

We were told that it was suicide but I knew she hadn't hung herself,' she said. 'I had been talking to her that day. I knew she wasn't depressed. She loved living with her flatmate, she was really happy.”

From Derby Telegraph - https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/pub-landlord-took-life-before-6012723.amp

“Dangar had paid her to take part in the risky activity while he watched hundreds of miles away in Tintagel, Cornwall and was later locked up for possessing extreme pornography with an interest in death.”

 

[Ensay]

I keep reading online articles quoting OnlyFans 'creators' who are bemoaning the ban because it'll take away their income.

While I understand it must be disappointing, some of them are acting like they can't get income from any other means. I'm not gonna say "get a real job", but "get an alternative job" is a valid riposte I think.

Yeah you might have to put in a bit more effort, but it's worth it to keep a roof over your head.

 

[daydreamer95]

Onlyfans is like an MLM the reason they inflate their earnings so much is to get new people to sign up under their affiliate referral

It used to be commission ongoing but now it’s been capped at 5% for only 1 year which really does incentivise creators to recruit more and more new people

Now there is courses workshops etc to be sold as well by successful creators , managers have been exposed for selling images secretly and stealing money it’s not all glamorous

 

[HockyRorror]

Most of the time they put the same pics on social media and DM anyway. The ones we don’t see are probably xxxxxxxxxxxrated. Most of the desperadoes are on it. Meghan Barton Whatever says she makes £800 000 a month! Believe this if you wish.

Someone with better maths skills than me could probably work this out but I just googled who she is out of interest and see she charges 24.99$ a month for her page. Taking into consideration the exchange rate between the dollar and the pound and the cut the website takes (just googled = 20%), how many people would have to subscribe for her to make 800,000 (pounds, not dollars) per month? Like I said I am shit at maths so perhaps it’s doable but maybe she charges for private “extras”. Which there is nothing wrong with if that’s what you want to do, but it is reminiscent of the all-too familiar tale how young girls start off doing glamour shots or a bit of stripping and end up going down dark paths they might not have envisioned.

 

[at-the-disco]

no absolutely not is it progress! there are so many reasons why porn is bad. there is more to women than their bodies and onlyfans is just feeding into the patriarchy and misogyny. these men who pay for onlyfans will never ever respect women because they just see them as a body they can wank off to. onlyfans needs banning it is so toxic

 

[mandyfry]

But do they make the real money out of DMs/‘personal’ requests?

People wanting specific things would just normally go to the OF profiles that are doing said content and sign up to the basic rate of that profile I guess! I suppose you might get a few sad fucks asking to write their name on your tits for a hundred quid but even with that service it didn’t add up even close to what they were suggesting to make! Messaging again, it tells you how much you’ll be charged per message etc and the figures just did not match at all to what they were claiming to make! Idid the research it’s all smoke and mirrors, the only one making hefty dollar for fuck all is the owner of the site who definitely has all his clothes on and is doing nothing we should be encouraging girls to be like him!!

would anyone pay to watch someone suck my toes? Asking for a friend

I sold a foot pic for £100 once so probably I don’t even have nice feet

 

[JD-Morgan]

Admire Me is a better platform.

My friend has made 5 figures in about a year on it.

I’d definitely give it a bash if I had the confidence!

It doesn’t need to be full nude and you don’t need to show your face.

 

[NeverEnough]

Interesting article on the BBC today.

OnlyFans account billboards in London streets spark complaints

One of the adverts, showing a model wearing a green plunge bra, has been spray-painted over.

www.bbc.co.uk

From what I can see the advert is legal, however it does pose an interesting question, is there a line? I suppose legal is the bottom line for most people, but well Pornhub is legal, would you be OK with that on a billboard? Whatabout a company with a name something like HornySchoolgirls.com? Any content on a site like that will start with a disclaimer that all performers are over 21 and it’s consensual, so it’s technically legal, but the intent of a website like that is pretty clear.

Do we lift the ban on tobacco advertising? Tobacco is of course legal, but also harmful. What about if a loan company charging 200% interest put a great big billboard slap bang in the middle of a deprived area full of desperate people trying to access quick cash? Legal, yes? Arguably smart from a business perspective, but ethically questionable at best.

Food for thought.

But anyway a big win for the model, because this has broken through to other media and will possibly add another zero to her follower count. Job done from her perspective.

 

[Laur91]

I don’t get why any guy would pay to see some influencer’s nudes when there so much free nudity and porn on the internet?!

This is what my boyfriend and I always say about these sorts of things as well as Snapchat premium which went the same way for a while!

You can find pretty much anything to your liking on the web these days for free so why pay for it?!

 

[RoseBush23]

I get the underwear photos but don’t understand why girls post themselves having sex!

also girls just meeting random girls for “content”

gross

 

[S4buk]

There are a lot of documentaries and articles about people making massive amounts of money from Only Fans but not very much about the people paying for it. I find it fascinating/ sad /scary that there are apparently so many desperately lonely people out there.

I don’t believe for one second that the majority of these people are making as much as they claim. It’s all PR to send people to their pages. I really enjoyed (?) the Olivia Attwood documentary and she was brilliant, but definitely didn’t believe that some of these OF performers were earning 1000s per week.

 

[Pawpaw365]

Oh jeeze. Stephen bear i bet he never got over chloe khan and Charlotte Crosby playing him at his own game and winning. Outearni

Bella thorne?

That'

That's pretty harsh, work shouldn't be able to control your whole life. I mean you work there at set hours, after that your time should be your own, i hate this culture of how organisations seem to want to own their employees. Maybe if they paid people better they wouldn't need to be looking for easy lucrative side hussles??

Work definitely can have a say. Depending on the job And your image then if your employer becomes aware of it, it can bring the company into disrepute.

 

[Yel]

Reading more about it and it seems like the site got too big and too many "content creators" on the platform are scammy. So it attracts lots of reports of frauds from unhappy customers and it was getting too much for the payment providers.

Lots of big accounts were doing very well. But I don't think they will be easily able to get payers on a new site. I've seen some onlyfans stuff that makes it onto tattle threads (linked to twitter or elsewhere as we don't want that stuff uploaded here) and it's surprising people would pay for that

 

[HockyRorror]

Maybe a hacker might have some success but for regular joes doing it they've made it pretty imprenetable. Apparently you can still screenshot but you just get a black screen.

You don’t have to be a hacker if someone else does the hacking for you. I literally just now googled “OnlyFans content downloader” and the first result was from Google App Store with a free program that says it can download any content from OnlyFans for free and currently has a 4 out of 5 star rating as rated by over 70,000 users.

Even with that aside, a website cant stop people taking screenshots. Ever. They can make it so you can’t right click and save an image, or they could even try and disable the print screen button on your keyboard (though I don’t see how that would work) and can do the same with phones but there aren’t any impenetrable ways to stop people getting screenshots of anything. The internet is a public place.

 

[tootootoot]

Does anyone else see loads of people claiming they're like, top 0.1% of OF? in their ig bio etc. I'm not so naive to believe that people always tell the truth online though

 

[daydreamer95]

'I quit the legal profession after I made it big on OnlyFans'

Jazmen Jafar is now one of the most-subscribed creators on the site

metro.co.uk

shouldn’t they be labelling these articles as ads?

The pornography industry would rather these appear as genuine stories that promote the benefits of a career in porn to young people

The creators work with agents to get these viral stories to promote their accounts somebody that has done this is Bonnie Lockett imo her earning claims at the time she made them were lies / fiction

Bonnie sells this viral story service as part of her marketing and courses business

PRESS
$2,500
WHAT YOU GET:
1 x story in the press with a high liklihood of going viral
CONTACT US

VIRAL CONTENT IDEAS

CONTACT US FOR MORE DETAILS
TELL US YOUR CONTENT GOALS AND WE WILL CREATE ALL YOUR VIRAL CONTENT IDEAS AS A CUSTOM MONTHLY PACKAGE

WHAT YOU GET:
All social media
Onlyfans

Consultancy – BONNIE LOCKET MGMT

 

[mandyfry]

I agree, most of the only fans “models” (for want of a better word lol) are completely inflating what they actually get paid. We did the maths based on a few popular peoples OF’s even paid the initial price and we worked out that even if all of their followers used all of the services on their profile, they would still be very shy of the initial figure they claim to make. This is before OF takes a cut and presumably tax they have to pay on the earnings? It’s nice to look at it in rose coloured glasses as an easy way out of the rat race but it’s not. Hasn’t got the earning potential, no job security, no pension, no sick pay, no maternity etc and on top of all that if you decide you want out you’re looking over your shoulder wondering when those pictures will arise and bite you on the arse. No respectable company would take somebody on with naked pictures all over the net. Future dating prospects? I certainly wouldn’t want a man with his naked pics sprawled across the web. It would ruin your life. I suppose this is why they inflate how much they earn as well, to prove to the world the choices they made that have wrecked their lives were “worth it”.

My fella is a builder and they have a work group chat of loads of them, some of them chip in literally pence and one person signs up, they sign up and screenshot all the pictures on the girls profile the most explicit stuff and share it all over the group. That then gets shared again and again by what probably ends up in the thousands. I cringe when I see parents say they are “proud” of their children for doing only fans, they would be likely dragging them off there if they saw the muck going on around their precious kid in a million group chats all over the globe . All of that bother for probably what ends up being minimum wage or below? No thank you I thought of this as an option initially but did my research and all that above is what I basically found out. Not worth the aggro!!