Nigel Farage

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Merpedy

Merpedy

Perspicacia Tick said:
Except it's been shown time and time again that the areas with least immigration were more likely to vote for Brexit (and less immigrants) than the areas with the highest level of immigration - most of whom voted remain.

Nigel himself is standing in an area with very low levels of immigrants and minorities.

Why are people who are least likely to regularly come across people from other countries and races so much more anti-immigration? Could it be that it's much easier to convince people that immigrants are The Worst when they haven't really had the opportunity to meet any and discover that the vast majority of them are just, you know, normal bleeping people.
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Thing is I suspect when people are talking about immigration these days they’re mostly talking about asylum seekers because it’s been so topical and we now use the term “illegal immigrants” for them - even though they make up a very tiny number and calling them illegal immigrants is questionable at best

Then you also have the group that are likely referring to anyone who isn’t white or fits into their idea of white. I suspect the whole conversation centred around “slurs” used against white people (which someone here implied at one point) is probably targeted against some of these groups of people. I’ve never personally faced that and I suspect most people haven’t but I have heard anecdotes from a friend that in private they use these words and there’s probably some use of them on social media and we all know that’s really reflective of the real world (being sarcastic here for anyone in doubt)

The second point also goes into the first point because ultimately a lot of asylum seekers aren’t white
 
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Perspicacia Tick

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Phil Anne Throw Pee said:
Hello, I like you too!

And I'm WAY past 30 - but appreciate the compliment!!

I live in North Yorkshire in a council estate in a market town, having said that there are not too many non-whites up here. Prior to this I lived in Oxford which has a VERY diverse demographic.
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It's interesting isn't it. I lived in London and then Oxford, as you say very diverse and loads of people who were not only not white but were 1st generation immigrants. You almost never heard open racism and it was very much 'frowned' upon to express those views.

Now I live in the rural SW - when we moved here the lack of diversity was really jarring. There were no non-white children in the first school my daughter attended. Not a single one. At her secondary school there are a fair few (there's 1250 kids there so you'd hope so!). I could name all of the non-white children at my other kids primary and they are very much English, born here, parents born here etc etc. There are a lot of children from Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine at these schools but no one is bothered by them as far as I can tell.

There's a lot more open racism here, not directly towards people afaik (though I'm white, so it's not something I would ever experience personally), but just generally in everyday conversation. It still takes me aback whenever I hear it, and I do comment on it because I'm that type of person. No one is ever nasty to me about it but I wonder how they've developed these negative feelings about people when they've literally met maybe 10 people from other races their whole lives. It's nuts. These people would be horrified if you called them racist though - even though they clearly are. Racism isn't just violence and angry rhetoric.
 
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Merpedy

Merpedy

Perspicacia Tick said:
There are a lot of children from Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine at these schools but no one is bothered by them as far as I can tell.
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We had that with Brexit tbf. That's all blown over, so the "new" thing is to target people that aren't white
 
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Miss Begotten

Miss Begotten

soph30 said:
This has been shared before and discussed and it’s from a far left source :) It’s like Reform creating and editing a Biden video
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So you’d be much happier listening to the things frog faced fascist himself has said? OK.

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Perspicacia Tick

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Haha.

It's like the time Boris Johnson slagged off people who have loads of children. Hipocracy is almost a requirement for certain politicians these days.
 
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soph30

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Not convinced on this completely actually- £50 is hardly a drop in the ocean! But happy to be corrected on how it would work
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Miss Begotten

Miss Begotten

You can only see a doctor if you can afford it?
So his policy is to let poor people die? bleeping marvellous
 
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soph30

soph30

Miss Begotten said:
You can only see a doctor if you can afford it?
So his policy is to let poor people die? bleeping marvellous
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Well that’s the US system, it’s hardly unheard of! For what it’s worth I don’t agree with it
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markcorriganscrisps said:
Surely that's satire as noone would vote for that. That only punishes the poor (and that includes white people, soz).
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It sounds ridiculously expensive yeah and I love him saying it’s a snip 😹 Saying Reform doesn’t like brown people is again pretty reductive though but we’ve covered this territory
 
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soph30

soph30

@Reversible Octopus bit more reform chat here, well done for standing your ground on the genny lec thread 💙 🍺 🍻

Bit of an effeminate dog for Nige 😹 where’s the bulldog
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Miss Begotten said:
Have you seen the state of America lately? That is the last place we want to emulate.
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Yeah I said that but my point was it’s not some evil unfeeling Nige policy, it’s an established model. We take the NHS for granted here
 

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Blockster

The left still harp on about net zero and climate change but don't put a number on our vastly growing population, how many people is to many before the country truly implodes. 60 million? 100 million a billion!! Loads of cars, houses being built, loss of green spaces, more doctors needed, more hospitals etc.. come on put a number on it. Great Britain has a landmass that comfortably fit 35 million for a good quality of life, but keep that cheap labour coming in our lives are so wonderful.
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Oh and by the way I am in the modern age what you probably call right wing, used to be a centrist but even they are called nazis now, so I'm unapologetically on the right.
 
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soph30

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@wearedoomed come join our numbers
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Blockster said:
The left still harp on about net zero and climate change but don't put a number on our vastly growing population, how many people is to many before the country truly implodes. 60 million? 100 million a billion!! Loads of cars, houses being built, loss of green spaces, more doctors needed, more hospitals etc.. come on put a number on it. Great Britain has a landmass that comfortably fit 35 million for a good quality of life, but keep that cheap labour coming in our lives are so wonderful.
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Oh and by the way I am in the modern age what you probably call right wing, used to be a centrist but even they are called nazis now, so I'm unapologetically on the right.
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And the increase in cars!! Hardly eco friendly…
 

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