There have been eyewitnesses who have seen her on that field with her dog. People who knew her and have talked to her. They don't necessarily need CCTV to establish that she was on the field that morning. Eyewitness accounts are more reliable than grainy CCTV footage of a woman in a big black coat with a hat on taken from a distance.
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Facebook has an annoying habit of changing privacy settings to public without you always realising sometimes. Its then up to you to reset your posts to private/ just friends etc but like you say people often dont realise until someone alerts them .
I started the first thread. It wasn’t because I believed there was more to it.
The discussion was happening across 2 separate threads that I was following, and both conversations were saying similar but also different things.
I started this one thread to combine the discussions, because I thought there was enough conversation to warrant its own thread.
Mostly, I started it because I was in disbelief that a normal day that mirrors mine - a routine dog walk for a mum of two - could end in her never being seen again with no actual answer as to why.
Logically I know she’s in the river. I’ve stated in support of this for example that my springer wouldn’t follow me in, and that I can see myself putting my phone down next to me. But I still think that the conversation is valid. And I’ve still made changes to my dog walk in an isolated area.
That’s very different from what I’ve read and seen from experts on TV. I read it did not have a strong current. Just goes to show how speculative all the reporting is I guess, so thank you for clarifying.
Nicola's loved ones are not giving up hope of her being found.
Nicola's loved ones feel certain she did NOT enter the river .
The police feel strongly Nicola DID find herself entering the river.
Actual quotes that have been running live across the news channel tickers this morning.
Then a story saying please don't throw out theories .....if family and police are at odds with their beliefs could that also be stoking the fire?
Are her loved ones asking us not to believe the obvious ? Are the police wanting us to ignore the loved ones ?
On and off line it's coming across as a free for all right now.
Nicola's loved ones feel certain she did NOT enter the river .
The police feel strongly Nicola DID find herself entering the river.
Actual quotes that have been running live across the news channel tickers this morning.
Then a story saying please don't throw out theories .....if family and police are at odds with their beliefs could that also be stoking the fire?
Are her loved ones asking us not to believe the obvious ? Are the police wanting us to ignore the loved ones ?
On and off line it's coming across as a free for all right now.
This should go into the recap.
Yes - the diver had to be helped out because the bank was so steep. I think they’ve been in twice.
Yes they are coming across as very aggressive and sarcastic, it reminds me of the argument about Princess Diana and whether the car accident was an “accident” or more so an “assassination.” For the life of me I do not understand why people are undermining other peoples gut feelings and opinions on an online forum which was created for THAT reason. Speaking of internet “sleuths” (although not remotely similar) didn’t the reporters on the case work out Ian Huntley had an involvement before the police even did?
If this was a film she would be tied up in a barn, with someone holding her demanding a million in cash, but it isn’t. Kidnappes are quite rare.
Everyone seems to be saying she isn’t in the river because her dog was bone dry. Maybe the dog didn’t see her fall in?
I know the river is so many miles long and 15ft deep in parts. But you would think with all the technology they have they would have found her.
I just feel for her kids. Being dropped to school and then dad telling them later that day they don’t know where she is. Must be heart breaking
Everyone seems to be saying she isn’t in the river because her dog was bone dry. Maybe the dog didn’t see her fall in?
I know the river is so many miles long and 15ft deep in parts. But you would think with all the technology they have they would have found her.
I just feel for her kids. Being dropped to school and then dad telling them later that day they don’t know where she is. Must be heart breaking
Look I think people have been very clear and clearly you haven’t read the replies but have just decided to respond to this comment. If you had read it you wouldn’t be going on in the same vein as the comment you’re quoting.
Say all you like but back it up. Don’t come in and say: ooohh me gut says it’s the partner as he smiled suspiciously and I have watched The Bill and I know the sort.
Because people will rightfully think you’re an idiot and tell you so.
Within the tattle threads, there’s general agreement that the dog would not have followed her. We all say our dogs would have no clue what to do and would likey stay on dry land, even if they saw us in the water. (It’s also in the recap)
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Well you think she fell in the river but you can’t back it up, there’s no evidence to suggest she even fell in the river?
I agree I think the fact that she's just a normal lady on a dog walk after dropping her children at school is the key to the intense shock people feel.
I think the problem is that there is a huge probability that there will be no evidence that she fell in the river, unless sadly her body is found.
The police are doing all they can to rule out any other options.
I just go with what the police say. They are the ones with the expertise and they are the ones doing all the groundwork.
The family are obviously going through all the emotions and just want Nicola back alive.
The media, and the pondlife on social media, can quite frankly get to duck.
In most cases where people fall into water there is no evidence. Even just looking at the river Thames, bodies are found several times a year sadly.
I hope and pray its soon for her little girls sake.
This is completely unrelated to the point you made previously which I responded to. If you had read people’s posts you also would have seen why people think this is the most likely solution. But by all means bring it back to a simple: “well I think this and you think that” discussion and dismiss the thousands of posts where people explained in detail why they think what they think.
Alternative theories
1. Someone attacked her as she was dialled in to her work call, on or near the bench, and managed to take her to a nearby vehicle or other location before leaving the area. I suspect this is why they are still seeking witness reports and asking for dashcam. imo this is an unlikely scenario as it relies on a shockingly blatant attacker who chanced their luck on there being no witnesses. If you wanted to kidnap someone there are probably much less risky ways to do it than in broad daylight during a time where lots of people are walking their dogs in the area? If they managed to lure her to a vehicle (willingly in some way) then why did she leave her phone and the dog? What reason could someone give that would make you leave your dog off lead, your phone on a bench, and wander over to their waiting car for a moment??? I’m not sure the distance to the nearest place one could park a car, or if that aligns with the area with no CCTV, but I suspect it’s too far to be dragging someone unwillingly?And surely the attacker wouldn’t have full knowledge of CCTV coverage anyway? Doesn’t seem plausible at all to me.
2. She has decided to go missing or killed herself. This also seems unlikely to me; close family members do not seem to support the theory and they will know her best. Women are (largely, but not exclusively!) nurturing and I don’t think she’d have taken the dog with her if this was her intention. Oh and she arranged a play date with a friend minutes before the incident, which seems to indicate that she was planning ahead in a very routine manner.
1. Someone attacked her as she was dialled in to her work call, on or near the bench, and managed to take her to a nearby vehicle or other location before leaving the area. I suspect this is why they are still seeking witness reports and asking for dashcam. imo this is an unlikely scenario as it relies on a shockingly blatant attacker who chanced their luck on there being no witnesses. If you wanted to kidnap someone there are probably much less risky ways to do it than in broad daylight during a time where lots of people are walking their dogs in the area? If they managed to lure her to a vehicle (willingly in some way) then why did she leave her phone and the dog? What reason could someone give that would make you leave your dog off lead, your phone on a bench, and wander over to their waiting car for a moment??? I’m not sure the distance to the nearest place one could park a car, or if that aligns with the area with no CCTV, but I suspect it’s too far to be dragging someone unwillingly?And surely the attacker wouldn’t have full knowledge of CCTV coverage anyway? Doesn’t seem plausible at all to me.
2. She has decided to go missing or killed herself. This also seems unlikely to me; close family members do not seem to support the theory and they will know her best. Women are (largely, but not exclusively!) nurturing and I don’t think she’d have taken the dog with her if this was her intention. Oh and she arranged a play date with a friend minutes before the incident, which seems to indicate that she was planning ahead in a very routine manner.
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