Mobile Emergency Alert System

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I'm expecting less than one alert per year, tbh. Probably for flooding more than anything else.
 
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I don't understand what people are scared of, it's no different from a notification coming up on your phone except with a alarm. If you're nervous of loud noises then switching it off stops you confronting your fear and seeing it's not that bad, and just makes your anxiety worse. And if you're going to switch it off because of anxiety, surely sleeping through an emergency situation where you could be in danger and knowing nothing about it far more scary?
 
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Honestly didn't realise people were so bothered by this. Although I'm glad for the reminder cos I had forgotten!
 
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Seen some quite cruel tweets about this on Twitter, being really mean to those of us who are anxious about this. Mocking us and saying stuff like how do we cope, etc. Mental health issues quite often mean a person does not cope well with what seems like "little things" to everyone else, that's the point. There's a reason people are freaking out and a lot of the time it will be because they aren't well! Or they are domestic abuse survivors who have every reason to fear their phone going off at random. Or any other reason. Yes, conspiracy theorists have lactched on and are being over the top about government agendas and stuff but that's far from everyone who is upset by this.

I don't like the whole "be kind" thing because too often it is used to stifle opinion or people hide behind it because they don't want to own their tit but I do wish there was better understanding of mental health in 2023. People act like there is, like things are more open and accepted now but it often seems as bad as ever when it comes to how ignorant, judgy and mean people can be.
 
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And we’d jam the roads pretty quick if we tried to escape. I remember seeing footage of people in America in gridlock on the freeways/highways when there was some evacuation due to storms a few years back. Imagine the same scene in UK when a whole city gets jammed because of a broken down car :eek: 😅 My city has a lot of one way nonsense in the centre and one day a van caught fire and people going to work (it was around 8.30am) were jammed all around the city for at least 2 hours. In the UK I think we are more likely to get localised alerts for flooding saying to not go out in the car, or, in high heat maybe we’ll get “drink some water” :unsure:
The potholes in this town alone ensures we’re going nowhere fast 😂 I’m sure it will be used in those scenarios…Btw I’ve read anyone with a hearing aid is advised to turn them off incase it damages their ears,if you know anyone in that position, the MIL has one I had to let her know especially as she’s recovering from a heart op 😬
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Seen some quite cruel tweets about this on Twitter, being really mean to those of us who are anxious about this. Mocking us and saying stuff like how do we cope, etc. Mental health issues quite often mean a person does not cope well with what seems like "little things" to everyone else, that's the point. There's a reason people are freaking out and a lot of the time it will be because they aren't well! Or they are domestic abuse survivors who have every reason to fear their phone going off at random. Or any other reason. Yes, conspiracy theorists have lactched on and are being over the top about government agendas and stuff but that's far from everyone who is upset by this.

I don't like the whole "be kind" thing because too often it is used to stifle opinion or people hide behind it because they don't want to own their tit but I do wish there was better understanding of mental health in 2023. People act like there is, like things are more open and accepted now but it often seems as bad as ever when it comes to how ignorant, judgy and mean people can be.
I’m sure it would have a negative affect on some people ,especially if you’re the type of person that waits on things to happen ,the pandemic showed us that.
 
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And we’d jam the roads pretty quick if we tried to escape. I remember seeing footage of people in America in gridlock on the freeways/highways when there was some evacuation due to storms a few years back. Imagine the same scene in UK when a whole city gets jammed because of a broken down car :eek: 😅 My city has a lot of one way nonsense in the centre and one day a van caught fire and people going to work (it was around 8.30am) were jammed all around the city for at least 2 hours. In the UK I think we are more likely to get localised alerts for flooding saying to not go out in the car, or, in high heat maybe we’ll get “drink some water” :unsure:
I was once stuck in a jam for over 2 hours (less than a mile from home) because a bin lorry fell over 😭🤣
 
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I don't understand what people are scared of
Anything to complain about 😆, because 10 seconds to turn of a feature is too much.

And people with the meh survived without it and don't need it who by that measure should opt out of modern healthcare.

If you're worried about being tracked then you just wouldn't have smart phone full stop. The govs ability to send a message makes no difference. They ducked up by not making use of the features built into smartphones before and took them ages to send out texts during covid.

Some charities are using it to get a bit of publicity, they're after all a business and any attention is good. If you have a hidden phone, it'll probably be off or on aeroplane mode, definitely will be after weeks of doom mongering about the government now snooping in on your playlists 🙄.

It'll just be used to say don't go outside during really high winds or your area is going underwater, yes some people are so stupid they need telling.
 
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Sometimes it’s not that deep. I’ve turned it off because I don’t want it, simple as that. People need to stop getting so het up over what others are/aren’t doing.
 
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I was interested in my settings seeing as it seems to be the topic of the moment and I seem to have an app on my phone for emergency alerts and then a separate section in my settings for emergency alerts (specifically mentions threat to life / property) and a separate section for wireless emergency alerts! I am pretty sure the last two came with my phone but i had a fiddle and if i turn one setting off, it doesn't turn them all off so i am assuming it is only the new one that will send the alert in which case what is the point of the other two in my phone settings 😅 I also have an earthquake alert which is set as on but then below it does say it isn't available in this region - I am using a nokia
 
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There was a conversation about this when I was out in public earlier. One man was saying that alerts are to set up a system in case the UK is at risk from Russia, as this is a precaution that should be in place now .

Other people were saying that since Storm Arwen, certain people ( applicable to the adults in the conversation) get a text when there is bad weather. I think these come from Northern Power grid, although these only go to people who's numbers they have access to , rather than every phone.

I don't know what I make of the alerts. In theory they can only make these alerts a rare occurrence because if they are too often people will ignore them and they will lose their impact.
 
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I really don't see the issue with the government testing emergency alerts on phones. People can disable the feature if they prefer so they don't have to go to all the effort of clicking to acknowledge it :rolleyes:

Countries like Japan regularly use it. While the UK isn't as tectonically active it does make sense to at least make use of the tech incase it's needed. We've had a helicopter hovering above with a loud speaker giving advice in the past, makes much more sense to make use of phones for stuff like this.

Seems another "I'm not a sheep, they're taking control" thing that people jump on
after extensive research my smartphone doesnt seem to have any of the disable functions. I'm turning it off full stop for later
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Curious to see what would happen at the Premier league match kicking off at 3pm. 40 000 or so sirens all going off at once
 
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Someone on Twitter last night said that war with Russia is imminent. Okay hun. 🙄
The anti vaxxers are having kittens!
The level of idiocy since the pandemic is frightening especially because these people are breeding and raising children.
 
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Curious to see what would happen at the Premier league match kicking off at 3pm. 40 000 or so sirens all going off at once
I was tempted to go to a public place just to hear everyone's phones go off but I'm far too lazy 😂 hopefully someone films it

I don't know what I make of the alerts. In theory they can only make these alerts a rare occurrence because if they are too often people will ignore them and they will lose their impact.
That's really the key which is why I'm not so worried. I remember we got flooded a while back and my mum refused to evacuate because she thought it was a joke, so having a system in place like this would have been very useful - at the time, not sure what the situation is now as I think you get automatic alerts if you're near a body of water(?), you had to sign up to flooding alerts to actually receive them and given that we never had been flooded it didn't seem like anyone really thought it would actually happen. I did end up signing up but then they would call every day to tell me about "possible" flooding which basically meant no flooding :rolleyes:
 
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To be fair while I can see and appreciate why flood warnings may be useful for some, this emergency alert not likely to be a system I will ever require,. I don't and am not likely to ever live near anywhere that will flood and if the bomb is going to drop, whats the point in telling us when there's nothing that can be done. I'd rather not know.

I think what most may possibly be objecting to is not the conspiracy theory stuff but the constant nannying/patronizing hand holding. Akin to tannoy announcements saying it's raining so the floor is wet. Have we really become THAT stupid?
 
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Someone on Twitter last night said that war with Russia is imminent. Okay hun. 🙄
The anti vaxxers are having kittens!
The level of idiocy since the pandemic is frightening especially because these people are breeding and raising children.
I know! I remember years ago when conspiracy theorists were crazy (usually people in the USA I saw on tv) outsiders now I can be talking to someone totally reasonable and suddenly they will say something absolutely insane as if jt the most normal thing ever. Terrifying.
 
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I've also turned it off because I'm chronically jumpy and could do without the mini heart attack, even if I know it's coming.
what concerns us when we were discussing this yesterday is drivers. apparently you must touch the phone to turn it off
 
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To be fair while I can see and appreciate why flood warnings may be useful for some, this emergency alert not likely to be a system I will ever require,. I don't and am not likely to ever live near anywhere that will flood and if the bomb is going to drop, whats the point in telling us when there's nothing that can be done. I'd rather not know.

I think what most may possibly be objecting to is not the conspiracy theory stuff but the constant nannying/patronizing hand holding. Akin to tannoy announcements saying it's raining so the floor is wet. Have we really become THAT stupid?
I actually agree with this "hold the handrail" type announcements on the tube are ridiculous, if you can't work this out yourself...the warning thing makes sense for me though, especially thinking about climate issues. I live near the river in London and am pretty paranoid about the flooding risk so I think it's a good idea for things like this, I think in Europe we have been an outlier for not having a system like this haven't we?
 
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To be fair while I can see and appreciate why flood warnings may be useful for some, its not likely to be a system I will ever require,. I don't and am not likely to ever live near anywhere that will flood and if the bomb is going to drop, whats the point in telling us when there's nothing that can be done. I'd rather not know.
Just because you're not likely to experience it doesn't mean that no one needs it. Plenty of people live near rivers or the sea and the alerts would likely only be if there's a 100% chance of flooding and a danger to life caused by it

Missile alerts normally get used to tell people to seek shelter. We're not exactly a country that's at war or have an annoying neighbour like North Korea, so we wouldn't get these alerts and even if we did... we'd be completely useless because we're not educated

It does strike as significant that the system is being rolled out during a war in Europe but it also seems like a system we should have had ages ago just in case in general
 
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