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Hi everyone. This is such a hard and personal topic that is soooo not spoken about enough.
I’ve been with my husband for 8 years. After 6 months he appeared to have ED, which I then found out was because of porn.
I said to him I really don’t want that in my life or relationship, please stop.

I thought he had stopped until after we had our first child and he turned up at the hospital after nipping out to get a few bits as I’d had a section. He brought me my iPad and it was on private browser mode. I had used it 24 hours previous and knew I’d never put it on that mode so it was obviously.

Very long story short but it has plagued our relationship:
- searched through people on Facebook to find pictures of girls he liked for porn ( still don’t get this one)
- using YouTube such as videos people are taking of girls walking around on nights out
- using instagram, YouTube and Reddit for porn
- in the first year of our relationship he downloaded an anonymous sex chat app but still can’t explain to me why
- no signs of him messaging other women but he did deactivate Snapchat and said he had used that for porn and deleted it to remove the temptation as he was trying to get better
- he has even used depop for porn (I’m not joking)

I threatened to leave him in march last year. He promised to recover. Discovered more again in July. Promised to recover…discovered again in February.

I feel awful, I do love him so much but I have lost all of my self esteem. He has been quite manipulative at times and quite mean in the past. He is getting better but I just find I’m struggling to cope with my life. We have two young children. Really just don’t know what to do. Sometimes I just wish I didn’t care others and wonder how other women would see this situation. I don’t really have anyone to talk to!
I have to second what others have said about getting yourself therapy of some kind.
I was in the same situation (although I was young) I left him 12 years ago and it is something that has affected me since in every relationship and still does, although not as much. So I would highly recommend finding some support/therapy for yourself!
 
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Hi everyone. This is such a hard and personal topic that is soooo not spoken about enough.
I’ve been with my husband for 8 years. After 6 months he appeared to have ED, which I then found out was because of porn.
I said to him I really don’t want that in my life or relationship, please stop.

I thought he had stopped until after we had our first child and he turned up at the hospital after nipping out to get a few bits as I’d had a section. He brought me my iPad and it was on private browser mode. I had used it 24 hours previous and knew I’d never put it on that mode so it was obviously.

Very long story short but it has plagued our relationship:
- searched through people on Facebook to find pictures of girls he liked for porn ( still don’t get this one)
- using YouTube such as videos people are taking of girls walking around on nights out
- using instagram, YouTube and Reddit for porn
- in the first year of our relationship he downloaded an anonymous sex chat app but still can’t explain to me why
- no signs of him messaging other women but he did deactivate Snapchat and said he had used that for porn and deleted it to remove the temptation as he was trying to get better
- he has even used depop for porn (I’m not joking)

I threatened to leave him in march last year. He promised to recover. Discovered more again in July. Promised to recover…discovered again in February.

I feel awful, I do love him so much but I have lost all of my self esteem. He has been quite manipulative at times and quite mean in the past. He is getting better but I just find I’m struggling to cope with my life. We have two young children. Really just don’t know what to do. Sometimes I just wish I didn’t care others and wonder how other women would see this situation. I don’t really have anyone to talk to!
He’ll never stop this behaviour nor grow out of it, not completely. It’s not a reflection of your desirability either, it’s his issue. Therapy is definitely the best bet as it doesn’t sound like you’d want to leave him. Try not to issue any more ultimatums if you’re not prepared to follow through. Once you’ve worked on your self-esteem you might find you’re less willing to accept this behaviour from a partner and you’re actually stronger than you think.
 
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Hi everyone. This is such a hard and personal topic that is soooo not spoken about enough.
I’ve been with my husband for 8 years. After 6 months he appeared to have ED, which I then found out was because of porn.
I said to him I really don’t want that in my life or relationship, please stop.

I thought he had stopped until after we had our first child and he turned up at the hospital after nipping out to get a few bits as I’d had a section. He brought me my iPad and it was on private browser mode. I had used it 24 hours previous and knew I’d never put it on that mode so it was obviously.

Very long story short but it has plagued our relationship:
- searched through people on Facebook to find pictures of girls he liked for porn ( still don’t get this one)
- using YouTube such as videos people are taking of girls walking around on nights out
- using instagram, YouTube and Reddit for porn
- in the first year of our relationship he downloaded an anonymous sex chat app but still can’t explain to me why
- no signs of him messaging other women but he did deactivate Snapchat and said he had used that for porn and deleted it to remove the temptation as he was trying to get better
- he has even used depop for porn (I’m not joking)

I threatened to leave him in march last year. He promised to recover. Discovered more again in July. Promised to recover…discovered again in February.

I feel awful, I do love him so much but I have lost all of my self esteem. He has been quite manipulative at times and quite mean in the past. He is getting better but I just find I’m struggling to cope with my life. We have two young children. Really just don’t know what to do. Sometimes I just wish I didn’t care others and wonder how other women would see this situation. I don’t really have anyone to talk to!
Good morning,

I don't want to be harsh, but I think that he sounds like a douche bag.

In my view, the reason you lost your self-esteem is not because of his behaviour, but because you still stay with him despite having threatened to leave him various times, then accepting his promises of bettering himself only to found out they have been broken, but you still stay with him!

If you do not want to leave him, despite having said that you would if he would not change his behaviour (which he has not changed as you now know), then maybe a break or trial separation would be a solution.
You could get therapy whilst being "on break" and he can do whatever he thinks is appropriate. If he wants to get therapy and cure his addiction it needs to be his choice.

You cannot control what he is doing, but you are in control of your actions.
It is not possible for us to know what drives his behaviour (it could be an addiction with deep-rooted issues or simple boredom coupled with lack of respect for you) but it is possible for you to explore why you are in such a relationship.
 
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Hi everyone. This is such a hard and personal topic that is soooo not spoken about enough.
I’ve been with my husband for 8 years. After 6 months he appeared to have ED, which I then found out was because of porn.
I said to him I really don’t want that in my life or relationship, please stop.

I thought he had stopped until after we had our first child and he turned up at the hospital after nipping out to get a few bits as I’d had a section. He brought me my iPad and it was on private browser mode. I had used it 24 hours previous and knew I’d never put it on that mode so it was obviously.

Very long story short but it has plagued our relationship:
- searched through people on Facebook to find pictures of girls he liked for porn ( still don’t get this one)
- using YouTube such as videos people are taking of girls walking around on nights out
- using instagram, YouTube and Reddit for porn
- in the first year of our relationship he downloaded an anonymous sex chat app but still can’t explain to me why
- no signs of him messaging other women but he did deactivate Snapchat and said he had used that for porn and deleted it to remove the temptation as he was trying to get better
- he has even used depop for porn (I’m not joking)

I threatened to leave him in march last year. He promised to recover. Discovered more again in July. Promised to recover…discovered again in February.

I feel awful, I do love him so much but I have lost all of my self esteem. He has been quite manipulative at times and quite mean in the past. He is getting better but I just find I’m struggling to cope with my life. We have two young children. Really just don’t know what to do. Sometimes I just wish I didn’t care others and wonder how other women would see this situation. I don’t really have anyone to talk to!
i'm so sorry this is happening to you, it's not your fault in any way. i'll be honest, i am absolutely shocked by his behaviour as a fellow woman and you are absolutely right to be upset.

I just really don't understand the mindset. what is he actually doing, is it really worth losing your life and family just so you can rub your penis to random women. its especially creepy and too far going on women's instagram, facebooks and social medias to get off to innocent photos. it actually makes my skin crawl the thought of uploading an innocent photo of myself and a man touching themselves to it.

I know this is not what you want to hear, but I am willing to bet he has spoken and engaged in contact with women on the sex chat app.

It's so so hard to leave a relationship especially when you have a family, so i feel for you so much :( i honestly think you need to though, just for your mental clarity. you deserve so much better than this. unless he really recognises the issue in himself, he will never change and will continue this behaviour until his d*ck stops working.
 
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Hi everyone. This is such a hard and personal topic that is soooo not spoken about enough.
I’ve been with my husband for 8 years. After 6 months he appeared to have ED, which I then found out was because of porn.
I said to him I really don’t want that in my life or relationship, please stop.

I thought he had stopped until after we had our first child and he turned up at the hospital after nipping out to get a few bits as I’d had a section. He brought me my iPad and it was on private browser mode. I had used it 24 hours previous and knew I’d never put it on that mode so it was obviously.

Very long story short but it has plagued our relationship:
- searched through people on Facebook to find pictures of girls he liked for porn ( still don’t get this one)
- using YouTube such as videos people are taking of girls walking around on nights out
- using instagram, YouTube and Reddit for porn
- in the first year of our relationship he downloaded an anonymous sex chat app but still can’t explain to me why
- no signs of him messaging other women but he did deactivate Snapchat and said he had used that for porn and deleted it to remove the temptation as he was trying to get better
- he has even used depop for porn (I’m not joking)

I threatened to leave him in march last year. He promised to recover. Discovered more again in July. Promised to recover…discovered again in February.

I feel awful, I do love him so much but I have lost all of my self esteem. He has been quite manipulative at times and quite mean in the past. He is getting better but I just find I’m struggling to cope with my life. We have two young children. Really just don’t know what to do. Sometimes I just wish I didn’t care others and wonder how other women would see this situation. I don’t really have anyone to talk to!
Hi lovely, I’m so sorry you’re having to deal with this, it is not uncommon at all. Unless he reaches out for help from professionals then I wouldn’t be putting your efforts into him. Sounds like he has porn addiction. Addiction is a horrible thing, regardless of whatever it is.

The thing with porn addiction a lot of people don’t understand is how actually dangerous it is. I have seen many men be arrested for possessing extreme pornography as well as indecent images of child and most cite porn addiction as the cause of ending up there. Obviously not all will but it’s like anything with addiction, you start off small and then need more and take part in riskier behaviour as time goes on. The fallout this behaviour has on families is absolutely massive, particularly where children are concerned because social services become involved. Again, I’m not saying he would ever be involved with such material but just trying to show how dangerous porn addiction can be.

No matter how much we love someone or try to help them, the only person who can commit to change is the person themselves. There are some apps you can download to monitor his activity if you decide to support him, accountable2you being a highly recommended one. Please make sure you look after yourself and reach out for support ❤❤❤
 
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Backstory: I have been with my partner for 8 years, we have one 5 year old child together and have had a very happy relationship. Like all couples, we have had minor issues but they have been about things like lack of communication etc, nothing too testing. We have had friends describe us as a “perfect little family” and my partner is described by everyone as all things good.



Two weeks ago, I decided to have a little snoop through his phone. I really did trust him, I just had this intuition that night to have a look while he was asleep. I noticed a new app was downloaded. It was yahoo mail, so obviously I clicked it.



There were tons of receipts for a webcam website, so I confronted him and he admitted to it instantly. He was very apologetic and said that it started one night because he got a bit bored of porn when I was out one time and saw an ad for the website so clicked it. He signed up and tried it out of curiosity which led to him having a huge addiction. He also admitted to having subscribed to a couple of people on onlyfans.



The worst part is, this addiction started in January 2018, and he has been doing it consistently since. That’s 6 years of our 8 year relationship. Our sex life has always been good, and he agrees too, he said it was never something that I wasn’t giving him. He just became addicted and would go through the guilt and regret every time but couldn’t stop.



Looking at the bank statements, I would guess he’s probably spent anywhere from 5-10k on this over the 6 years. A lot of that has been put onto a credit card that I thought he paid off and got rid off years ago.



He had times in those years where he felt so awful he debated ending his life, he said he always had guilt and it was eating him alive but couldn’t tell me as he knew it would hurt me.



How do I even deal with this? I’m so hurt, confused and blindsided, but I also know that addiction becomes not a choice and it takes a lot of professional help to overcome. Do I take into consideration it was an addiction?



He has said that now the secret is out, as much as it’s caused a lot of pain, he feels like a huge weight has been lifted off his shoulders and that he no longer is struggling with this alone. He wants to make this work, and has offered counseling for addiction and as a couple, he said he’s happy to go through all the steps needed to build trust, he’s happy to spend a long time not having a normal relationship while we rebuild. He even has suggested for my own peace of mind to have full control of all finances, child lock his phone etc (he said he doesn’t need that to stop, as his addiction has now become a painful reality and he thinks the websites are poison for how they affect the human brain), but he is trying to suggest things that would make me feel better.



In those 6 years, he continuously made me feel good about myself, he put in effort to our relationship etc. he said he never chose that over me, it would be when I was out, not in the mood or asleep and before he went to work.



Just to add, he never had favorites. He would watch different people all the time and only ever watch one person a couple of times before never watching them again. He never had his own camera on, so they never saw him and he said he would literally turn it all off straight after and aside from feel the guilt and regret, he would never sit and think about it further. He said it was the same thing to him, as when you watch porn (although he knows it’s different and is empathetic about that).



He has now been very open and honest with me, even when some of the details are painful to hear. He has also been very honest with friends and family about it now too, and has shown a lot of remorse for what he has done not only to me but to everyone else.

Any thoughts on how I should deal with this? I feel so betrayed but addiction is a really difficult one to deal with.
 
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Backstory: I have been with my partner for 8 years, we have one 5 year old child together and have had a very happy relationship. Like all couples, we have had minor issues but they have been about things like lack of communication etc, nothing too testing. We have had friends describe us as a “perfect little family” and my partner is described by everyone as all things good.



Two weeks ago, I decided to have a little snoop through his phone. I really did trust him, I just had this intuition that night to have a look while he was asleep. I noticed a new app was downloaded. It was yahoo mail, so obviously I clicked it.



There were tons of receipts for a webcam website, so I confronted him and he admitted to it instantly. He was very apologetic and said that it started one night because he got a bit bored of porn when I was out one time and saw an ad for the website so clicked it. He signed up and tried it out of curiosity which led to him having a huge addiction. He also admitted to having subscribed to a couple of people on onlyfans.



The worst part is, this addiction started in January 2018, and he has been doing it consistently since. That’s 6 years of our 8 year relationship. Our sex life has always been good, and he agrees too, he said it was never something that I wasn’t giving him. He just became addicted and would go through the guilt and regret every time but couldn’t stop.



Looking at the bank statements, I would guess he’s probably spent anywhere from 5-10k on this over the 6 years. A lot of that has been put onto a credit card that I thought he paid off and got rid off years ago.



He had times in those years where he felt so awful he debated ending his life, he said he always had guilt and it was eating him alive but couldn’t tell me as he knew it would hurt me.



How do I even deal with this? I’m so hurt, confused and blindsided, but I also know that addiction becomes not a choice and it takes a lot of professional help to overcome. Do I take into consideration it was an addiction?



He has said that now the secret is out, as much as it’s caused a lot of pain, he feels like a huge weight has been lifted off his shoulders and that he no longer is struggling with this alone. He wants to make this work, and has offered counseling for addiction and as a couple, he said he’s happy to go through all the steps needed to build trust, he’s happy to spend a long time not having a normal relationship while we rebuild. He even has suggested for my own peace of mind to have full control of all finances, child lock his phone etc (he said he doesn’t need that to stop, as his addiction has now become a painful reality and he thinks the websites are poison for how they affect the human brain), but he is trying to suggest things that would make me feel better.



In those 6 years, he continuously made me feel good about myself, he put in effort to our relationship etc. he said he never chose that over me, it would be when I was out, not in the mood or asleep and before he went to work.



Just to add, he never had favorites. He would watch different people all the time and only ever watch one person a couple of times before never watching them again. He never had his own camera on, so they never saw him and he said he would literally turn it all off straight after and aside from feel the guilt and regret, he would never sit and think about it further. He said it was the same thing to him, as when you watch porn (although he knows it’s different and is empathetic about that).



He has now been very open and honest with me, even when some of the details are painful to hear. He has also been very honest with friends and family about it now too, and has shown a lot of remorse for what he has done not only to me but to everyone else.

Any thoughts on how I should deal with this? I feel so betrayed but addiction is a really difficult one to deal with.
From what you’ve said, whilst it may have been going on for a long time, it sounds as though it is worth seeing if he can work through this and that he fully acknowledges the issue. You will feel betrayed and it may take a while to build the trust up again but it can be done, as long as he is willing to accept that may mean he lives in the dog house for a while. I wouldn’t let him know straight away you’re willing to work things out but tell him he needs to sort his tit out for the sake of your child and you’re not sure you can get past it, he needs to sweat a bit.

The main thing to remember is, you can give him a second chance and try to move forward but you’re not confined to that choice and can change your mind at any time so just take things a day at a time and see how YOU feel about things. ❤❤❤
 
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From what you’ve said, whilst it may have been going on for a long time, it sounds as though it is worth seeing if he can work through this and that he fully acknowledges the issue. You will feel betrayed and it may take a while to build the trust up again but it can be done, as long as he is willing to accept that may mean he lives in the dog house for a while. I wouldn’t let him know straight away you’re willing to work things out but tell him he needs to sort his tit out for the sake of your child and you’re not sure you can get past it, he needs to sweat a bit.

The main thing to remember is, you can give him a second chance and try to move forward but you’re not confined to that choice and can change your mind at any time so just take things a day at a time and see how YOU feel about things. ❤❤❤
Thank you, this has been really helpful! I found out just over 2 weeks ago and during that time I have kicked him out twice. All of his stuff is at his dads house but he has been staying here as he keeps coming back to see our son, and then we end up talking and he doesn’t leave. He has cried multiple times and keeps saying how he thinks my mind is going towards breaking up and he is devastated by it.

He has been making a huge effort in this time. He took emergency leave from work and has spent everyday catering to my needs and emotions. He redecorated our bedroom in the first week, as it is something I had been saying I wanted to do for a while and I think he just wanted to make me happy in any way he could.

One thing I regret is that I have been continuously sleeping with him during this time, even though I have been saying I don’t think it’s fixable. It’s almost like I’m doing it as a trauma response. It’s all I can think about, but I think it must be because this whole situation is based on that and my very confused brain is confusing my thoughts and emotions.

I really do think this would be a turning point and I do believe he genuinely won’t do anything like this again. It’s destroyed him, but over 6 years, the amount of people he has masturbated too and interacted with is insane!
 
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Backstory: I have been with my partner for 8 years, we have one 5 year old child together and have had a very happy relationship. Like all couples, we have had minor issues but they have been about things like lack of communication etc, nothing too testing. We have had friends describe us as a “perfect little family” and my partner is described by everyone as all things good.



Two weeks ago, I decided to have a little snoop through his phone. I really did trust him, I just had this intuition that night to have a look while he was asleep. I noticed a new app was downloaded. It was yahoo mail, so obviously I clicked it.



There were tons of receipts for a webcam website, so I confronted him and he admitted to it instantly. He was very apologetic and said that it started one night because he got a bit bored of porn when I was out one time and saw an ad for the website so clicked it. He signed up and tried it out of curiosity which led to him having a huge addiction. He also admitted to having subscribed to a couple of people on onlyfans.



The worst part is, this addiction started in January 2018, and he has been doing it consistently since. That’s 6 years of our 8 year relationship. Our sex life has always been good, and he agrees too, he said it was never something that I wasn’t giving him. He just became addicted and would go through the guilt and regret every time but couldn’t stop.



Looking at the bank statements, I would guess he’s probably spent anywhere from 5-10k on this over the 6 years. A lot of that has been put onto a credit card that I thought he paid off and got rid off years ago.



He had times in those years where he felt so awful he debated ending his life, he said he always had guilt and it was eating him alive but couldn’t tell me as he knew it would hurt me.



How do I even deal with this? I’m so hurt, confused and blindsided, but I also know that addiction becomes not a choice and it takes a lot of professional help to overcome. Do I take into consideration it was an addiction?



He has said that now the secret is out, as much as it’s caused a lot of pain, he feels like a huge weight has been lifted off his shoulders and that he no longer is struggling with this alone. He wants to make this work, and has offered counseling for addiction and as a couple, he said he’s happy to go through all the steps needed to build trust, he’s happy to spend a long time not having a normal relationship while we rebuild. He even has suggested for my own peace of mind to have full control of all finances, child lock his phone etc (he said he doesn’t need that to stop, as his addiction has now become a painful reality and he thinks the websites are poison for how they affect the human brain), but he is trying to suggest things that would make me feel better.



In those 6 years, he continuously made me feel good about myself, he put in effort to our relationship etc. he said he never chose that over me, it would be when I was out, not in the mood or asleep and before he went to work.



Just to add, he never had favorites. He would watch different people all the time and only ever watch one person a couple of times before never watching them again. He never had his own camera on, so they never saw him and he said he would literally turn it all off straight after and aside from feel the guilt and regret, he would never sit and think about it further. He said it was the same thing to him, as when you watch porn (although he knows it’s different and is empathetic about that).



He has now been very open and honest with me, even when some of the details are painful to hear. He has also been very honest with friends and family about it now too, and has shown a lot of remorse for what he has done not only to me but to everyone else.

Any thoughts on how I should deal with this? I feel so betrayed but addiction is a really difficult one to deal with.
Obviously I don't know your partner, but the general pattern seems to be that they get caught, claim it's an addiction (which I'm not saying it isn't but it's almost like a 'well I couldn't help it i was addicted' mentality). Then they stay clean for a while until they start to need a fix again because they are bored or whatever.

You don't know he didn't have favourites - you only know what he's told you.

I can't tell you what to do but I would suggest he deal with his addiction on his own whilst not in a relationship. You deserve better and I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

I'm in my forties now but put up with this sort of tit in my early twenties and I actually believed I was irrational and controlling. I thought other women didn't mind their men looking at porn/ going to strip clubs etc so what was wrong with me? But in fact it's something that I would just not tolerate in a relationship and that is my boundary.

I hope you and your little one will be okay xx
 
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I really wonder if I am on the wrong track here.

But how can it be a good and trusting relationship if you are tempted to look at his phone whilst he is asleep, and then actually do it and then say you saw the new yahoo app so "naturally" opened it?
This is also a huge breach of trust and privacy.

You must have had any form of suspicion or bad feeling or mistrust, anything at all to make you look at his phone.

Then him staying over too often and sleeping with you, which makes you feel bad - you do not uphold your own boundaries, nor does he respect them.

He does not want to lose you, but should give you the space you need and go home and not sleep with you when you are feeling like this.
And you must uphold your own boundaries and send him home.

It is good that he can stay at his father's place.
You could fix times for him to see your son, times for the two of you to talk and ideally joint therapy sessions.

But it sounds like you have not had a breather to collect your own thoughts and feelings. Maybe try to have a weekend on your own.
 
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Obviously I don't know your partner, but the general pattern seems to be that they get caught, claim it's an addiction (which I'm not saying it isn't but it's almost like a 'well I couldn't help it i was addicted' mentality). Then they stay clean for a while until they start to need a fix again because they are bored or whatever.

You don't know he didn't have favourites - you only know what he's told you.

I can't tell you what to do but I would suggest he deal with his addiction on his own whilst not in a relationship. You deserve better and I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

I'm in my forties now but put up with this sort of tit in my early twenties and I actually believed I was irrational and controlling. I thought other women didn't mind their men looking at porn/ going to strip clubs etc so what was wrong with me? But in fact it's something that I would just not tolerate in a relationship and that is my boundary.

I hope you and your little one will be okay xx
I agree. He is telling you what you want to hear & things like him decorating your bedroom is just him trying to get into your good books @Unknown345 has he actually done any genuine work on himself or just blamed his addiction and that’s it? You don’t appear to be upholding any boundaries, are still sleeping with him..what actual consequences has he faced aside from going to stay at his dad’s which he isn’t actually doing? All that’s happening is he is learning what he can get away with.
 
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I think unless you've been in this situation you have no idea how hurtful and soul destroying this is, to find out that a long term partner is keeping all these grubby secrets, and lying to you constantly. It makes you think you're going insane and it's like the death of a relationship because you can't see them any other way then. If you stay with the person who has betrayed you, you have to learn to love them again and to love yourself. Because it can crush your self worth completely.

Anyone going through this I urge you to put yourself first no matter how anyone tries to guilt trip you or make light of your feelings. We all have different boundaries and if it was that easy, emotionally and financially to just "walk away" there'd be a hell of a lot more singles in the world. Sometimes it's just not an option to up and leave if you can't afford it or have the strength to. So you have to look at how else you can navigate the situation
 
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I agree. He is telling you what you want to hear & things like him decorating your bedroom is just him trying to get into your good books @Unknown345 has he actually done any genuine work on himself or just blamed his addiction and that’s it? You don’t appear to be upholding any boundaries, are still sleeping with him..what actual consequences has he faced aside from going to stay at his dad’s which he isn’t actually doing? All that’s happening is he is learning what he can get away with.
I feel so awful for saying as @Unknown345 is understandably extremely distressed right now, but I rolled my eyes when I read about the redecorating the bedroom. They always do things like this when they're in the dog house and as for his crying and saying he debated ending his own life!
 
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I agree. He is telling you what you want to hear & things like him decorating your bedroom is just him trying to get into your good books @Unknown345 has he actually done any genuine work on himself or just blamed his addiction and that’s it? You don’t appear to be upholding any boundaries, are still sleeping with him..what actual consequences has he faced aside from going to stay at his dad’s which he isn’t actually doing? All that’s happening is he is learning what he can get away with.
Hi, essentially yes, he is trying to get into my good books of course! But how do you decide the line between someone who is actually remorseful and doing everything in their power to make it up to you and someone who is just trying to pull a fast one? I mean that as a genuine question, because either way would look similar I guess?

In terms of working on himself, during this time he didn’t reach out for help. He did delete his account a few times but as reactivation is easy, he always ended up back on there. He said he didn’t seek help because of how embarrassed he was about it. Now though, he has reached out to therapists and booked in sessions. He has also reached out to family and friends too. He’s looked into software that can monitor his phone and send me alerts to any adult content being viewed (I think he is just trying to offer as much as possible to fix this situation).

I don’t disagree with your points on sleeping with him, but please do keep in mind that this is very traumatic for me and a lot of my actions will be trauma based. I currently feel very hypersexualised and it is 100% from the emotions in my mind. The brain works in strange ways unfortunately so I hope I’m not being judged for this!
 
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I think unless you've been in this situation you have no idea how hurtful and soul destroying this is, to find out that a long term partner is keeping all these grubby secrets, and lying to you constantly. It makes you think you're going insane and it's like the death of a relationship because you can't see them any other way then. If you stay with the person who has betrayed you, you have to learn to love them again and to love yourself. Because it can crush your self worth completely.

Anyone going through this I urge you to put yourself first no matter how anyone tries to guilt trip you or make light of your feelings. We all have different boundaries and if it was that easy, emotionally and financially to just "walk away" there'd be a hell of a lot more singles in the world. Sometimes it's just not an option to up and leave if you can't afford it or have the strength to. So you have to look at how else you can navigate the situation
You are right and it is something that I do not understand.

I think my advice sounds harsh because I find it hard to understand.

Especially if it is felt that the relationship was good and if the conduct/ disrespect continues.

Of course I understand that it can be problematic financially, but I guess outside of financial worries I do not understand why someone would stay in a relationship where they feel disrespected/betrayed/lied to on an ongoing basis.
 
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I think unless you've been in this situation you have no idea how hurtful and soul destroying this is, to find out that a long term partner is keeping all these grubby secrets, and lying to you constantly. It makes you think you're going insane and it's like the death of a relationship because you can't see them any other way then. If you stay with the person who has betrayed you, you have to learn to love them again and to love yourself. Because it can crush your self worth completely.

Anyone going through this I urge you to put yourself first no matter how anyone tries to guilt trip you or make light of your feelings. We all have different boundaries and if it was that easy, emotionally and financially to just "walk away" there'd be a hell of a lot more singles in the world. Sometimes it's just not an option to up and leave if you can't afford it or have the strength to. So you have to look at how else you can navigate the situation
This is exactly how difficult it is. You really do pour a huge amount of love into a person over 8 years. I thought he was different, loyal. I am still finding it hard to look at him and see the things he has done because it’s the same person I loved looking back at me and it doesn’t even feel real. Especially as it’s been 6 years, in those years we welcomed a child, have had so many amazing memories and had a very happy relationship…. I now know this was happening but how can I process what happened when I was so happy for those years? :(
 
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Hi, essentially yes, he is trying to get into my good books of course! But how do you decide the line between someone who is actually remorseful and doing everything in their power to make it up to you and someone who is just trying to pull a fast one? I mean that as a genuine question, because either way would look similar I guess?

In terms of working on himself, during this time he didn’t reach out for help. He did delete his account a few times but as reactivation is easy, he always ended up back on there. He said he didn’t seek help because of how embarrassed he was about it. Now though, he has reached out to therapists and booked in sessions. He has also reached out to family and friends too. He’s looked into software that can monitor his phone and send me alerts to any adult content being viewed (I think he is just trying to offer as much as possible to fix this situation).

I don’t disagree with your points on sleeping with him, but please do keep in mind that this is very traumatic for me and a lot of my actions will be trauma based. I currently feel very hypersexualised and it is 100% from the emotions in my mind. The brain works in strange ways unfortunately so I hope I’m not being judged for this!
I didn’t intend to judge you at all so I apologise if that’s how it came across. However, I have been there with an addict who says the right things, puts blockers on phones and changes for a grand total of 3 weeks before they are right back to their usual self. I would hate for that to be the situation you find yourself in. If he is serious about therapy, perhaps if you do some joint sessions it will help you both going forward in setting boundaries and what is/isn’t acceptable surrounding his online activities. I wish you lots of luck 💛
 
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Hi, essentially yes, he is trying to get into my good books of course! But how do you decide the line between someone who is actually remorseful and doing everything in their power to make it up to you and someone who is just trying to pull a fast one? I mean that as a genuine question, because either way would look similar I guess?

In terms of working on himself, during this time he didn’t reach out for help. He did delete his account a few times but as reactivation is easy, he always ended up back on there. He said he didn’t seek help because of how embarrassed he was about it. Now though, he has reached out to therapists and booked in sessions. He has also reached out to family and friends too. He’s looked into software that can monitor his phone and send me alerts to any adult content being viewed (I think he is just trying to offer as much as possible to fix this situation).

I don’t disagree with your points on sleeping with him, but please do keep in mind that this is very traumatic for me and a lot of my actions will be trauma based. I currently feel very hypersexualised and it is 100% from the emotions in my mind. The brain works in strange ways unfortunately so I hope I’m not being judged for this!
It is understandable how you feel.

But is there no way you could get a break, even if it is just for the weekend?
How can you sort out your thoughts and feelings if you have no space?
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This is exactly how difficult it is. You really do pour a huge amount of love into a person over 8 years. I thought he was different, loyal. I am still finding it hard to look at him and see the things he has done because it’s the same person I loved looking back at me and it doesn’t even feel real. Especially as it’s been 6 years, in those years we welcomed a child, have had so many amazing memories and had a very happy relationship…. I now know this was happening but how can I process what happened when I was so happy for those years? :(
Why did you look at his phone?
What would have happened if you would not have looked at his phone?
 
Just to add - I do believe this was an addiction honestly. To do something for that long, that often and spent that much money on, it had to be addiction. I’m not trying to justify his actions at all, the opposite even! But there is a lot of debt from this and I can’t imagine someone would put themselves in that position willingly.

he used every card he owned. One credit card that I didn’t know about & then once maxed, would use two other cards & his debit card until he would make a monthly payment and be able to use the original credit card again. I’m surprised he used his debit because the chance of being caught there was high, but that’s how addiction works isn’t it, you desperately use anything you can :(
 
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It's really really complicated. Because they haven't actually physically cheated (yet!), it will make you doubt yourself. I think for me, unless the person really really showed that they were willing to change their ways fully, had full transparency in absolutely everything they did, with their phone, life, bank accounts etc. I couldn't stay and would be looking at ways to get out, however long it took me.

It sounds simple and straightforward on paper how you should deal with it, but it really does suck the life and essence out of you.

People laugh and call others vanilla for not wanting their man to watch porn, and only fans and soft porn is so socially acceptable these days, you're made to feel stupid for not accepting the perving and lack of self control.
 
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