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Abominatrix

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Oh gawd that walmart story. I watched the true crime doco on youtube. The worst.
I can't get it out of my head, that woman and her utter lack of care for her kids' safety. I couldn't tell if she was just very, very stupid or missing several important pieces inside.
 

Oohthedrama

Iconic Member
Just reading the first link on this thread confirmed my thoughts on the issue.
I recommend you all read too.
I read it, but again, there’s too many grey areas to say for sure if he’s guilty or innocent.
And I’m not saying he is either way. Nobody knows, But half stories, people changing their stories, a bipolar father that comes forward, then backs off, “he did, he didn’t” etc etc etc.
It casts too much doubt on the whole thing.
Fact is with this docu, a director who needed a lead went after this story with the narrative that he was guilty. And approached these two men.

And I’m not saying for one minute it should be covered up because he’s dead,
but what is the point in bringing all of this to his kids door. Because they are the ones who will suffer. It’s not new evidence, it’s not getting justice, it’s just for “entertainment” purposes.

I feel a bit weird having all of this dragged up just for the sake of it, because that’s why the director went after the story. Not for “justice” for victims.
He was asked what the big stories would be and he went with this, Michael Jackson abusing kids.
Just my opinion, but I’ve not watched yet so I really should keep it to myself until then.
To be honest I don’t know if I want to the more I see about it right now.
 

blobby

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8821432/michael-jackson-leaving-neverland-evidence-james-safechuck/

I think there was a train station, but maybe didn't have planning permission or for some reason they decided to change it and build another train station later on? who knows, but a few accounts suggest he is actually telling the truth, however it's not the train station we all thought he meant.

I personally believe James and think MJ took a very unhealthy liking to him, I don't know why he tried to pretend him and Wade had never met before though or maybe he just didn't remember. I do actually believe Wade Robson in half of his story.. even though he is so sneaky and has actually done himself an injustice, obviously stretched his truth alot. I don't even think Michael liked him and kept trying to fob him off onto his cousin to get rid of him.

Surely if Wade just wanted to make money and sell a book like originally planned before he tried suing, he would of sold his story about Britney and Justin affair as I believe he is the reason they broke up and any inside information he has on that, back in 2013 that would of been a huge story?
 

Web30

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This is exactly where I am with it all as well.

The boy that identified the detail on his penis was Jordy Chandler who received the payout and then went into hideout
Im sure it was all his step dads doing. Didnt he come out and say his dad made him lie about it all
 

Web30

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Also, why would leaving neverland trigger them and make them realise this had happened to others, yet the court case wouldn't. She said they were with him in Bahrain which is where he went after the court case.
 

lime

Chatty Member
I wondered what happened to them. It feels like their documentary was really brave and compelling but made very little noise and had no impact. I'm surprised this hasn't been timed more to come out just before the biopic in October...
 

Prince fan 1999

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I believe he dyed Prince's hair when he was younger

Its strange because the kids do have lighter skin but then when you look at pictures of them next to Latoya, especially at the funeral, they have a similar skin shade and, as far as I'm aware, she never bleached her skin?

Prince also is rumoured to have vitiligo.
That's the first I've heard about Prince having vitiligo. I don't believe that's accurate.
 

Handerton

Chatty Member
Just the titles wind me up. Is “beat it” him talking about what he wants to do to a young boy? Was “dirty Diana” his Ghislaine Maxwell? Odious, creepy manchild.
 

PartOfMe

Well-known member
That vulture article is different, the documentary is HBO so should be well done. But not sure I can face watching it. He has so many dedicated fans that will just keep saying he was found innocent.
 

Miss Havisham

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If you didn't listen to music because an artist had allegations you wouldn't have fuck all to listen to

Especially all the rockstar from the 70s and 80s with questionable relationships with groupies teenagers underage girls
I think it depends - on if they were convicted (or pretty much guilty without a conviction) and what they were guilty of.
 
I read it, but again, there’s too many grey areas to say for sure if he’s guilty or innocent.
And I’m not saying he is either way. Nobody knows, But half stories, people changing their stories, a bipolar father that comes forward, then backs off, “he did, he didn’t” etc etc etc.
It casts too much doubt on the whole thing.
Fact is with this docu, a director who needed a lead went after this story with the narrative that he was guilty. And approached these two men.

And I’m not saying for one minute it should be covered up because he’s dead,
but what is the point in bringing all of this to his kids door. Because they are the ones who will suffer. It’s not new evidence, it’s not getting justice, it’s just for “entertainment” purposes.

I feel a bit weird having all of this dragged up just for the sake of it, because that’s why the director went after the story. Not for “justice” for victims.
He was asked what the big stories would be and he went with this, Michael Jackson abusing kids.
Just my opinion, but I’ve not watched yet so I really should keep it to myself until then.
To be honest I don’t know if I want to the more I see about it right now.
I can see your point on this. Maybe there doesn't need to be a documentary, but the victims certainly need justice. None of it adds up.
 

Upintheair83

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Yes! As a mother of boys too, it really frustrates me when people seem to minimise these situations with male youth vs female. He was clearly attracted to young boys of a certain age. Approaching puberty, but pre-pubescent. They found orders of naked child videos at his house? How is that not evidence?! If this was a white male 90s pop star with the same age GIRLS, they would be immediately banned and cancelled- imagine if Robbie Williams or Justin Timberlake had toured with a 12 year old girl sharing his bed. Photos with her sitting on his lap acting like a couple! “Oh nothing to see here, he just likes the company of young girls and it’s due to him missing out on his teenage years due to joining Take That at 15 / Disney Club at 10 / insert child star situation as an excuse!
Naked child videos??!! Where have you seen this evidence? Iv never heard or read that he was found with naked child videos.