Matthew Perry

[Ronlonglegs]

The opener to thread is awkward now.


Rip chandler, thanks for the many many laughs

 

[Ef27]

I agree with the above, she copied a girl on a tiktok trend who matched with Ben Affleck and it went viral. With this dating app you have to be recommended by a number of people already on it and pay to join, not just anyone can so she knew what she was doing and just wanted her 5 mins of fame. He was broken up from his partner apparently at the time too so I don’t think he did anything wrong imo.

 

[get the gossip]

Im shocked but not surprised sadly.

 

[Bubblegumblades]

The Matthew Perry thing is cringe, but at the same time they matched. If she wasn't interested due to age, she could have ignored him. She also states that he was a nice guy and from the sounds of it he wasn't being overly forceful and intimidating. I could understand the power balance argument if he were seen to be manipulative or using his status to pressure her, but seemed like they were just chatting. Him acknowledging he's her dad's age kind of suggests that he is aware it might be ridiculous. I'd be more wary if he downplayed it and tried to move her her attention away from it.

What gets me is that she acknowledged he was a nice guy and says she feels a bit guilty about it...but she still did it anyway. He is actually quite vulnerable, and just because she is younger doesn't mean that she is more vulnerable and not as predatory. Someone from high-school used to target older, larger "uglier" men as they'd be so grateful they'd spend loads of money on her.

 

[PreciousVenus]

She comes across as a right cow tbh. How does this show anything about predatory behaviour?

 

[Moley1]

In context I think they just mean when they feel comfortable to do so individually in their own personal way, they shouldn't have to be forced to rush out and post something just because the media are hungry for the clicks.

This reminds me of when John Lennon was murdered and someone shoved a microphone in Paul McCartney’s face and asked him how he felt. All he could come up with is “It’s a drag” which was taken to mean that he didn’t care that deeply. In fact he was devastated and could barely find the words.
Social media is a nightmare. Don’t say anything soon enough and there are questions. Say anything too soon and get the tone wrong and you get flak. Whatever you say gets picked over for alternative meanings. You have to be so careful.

 

[Kalimbaa]

The bit that struck me at the reunion was when Perry said that it was agony for him when a joke didn't land - you could see how insecure he was about being 'the funny one'. He barely said anything else mind so that bit would stand out

It was sad to see though. I think the dental work excuse was just damage control. He used to be so edgy and quick and now he looks addled and defeated. Booze and drugs have really done a number on him.

I though Courtney Cox was a bit flat too. Jen and Schwimmer threw themselves into it the most, bless them.

Corden was a raging arse as usual.

 

[mee43]

I did read the book.
And I thought he came across as incredibly self absorbed and selfish.
I read it thinking that it was an account of addiction by someone who’d cleaned up.
But actually, finding out that he hadn’t, doesn’t surprise me. Because it was very clear that he’d not reached the point of being truly sorry for the effect his addiction had had on others.
He was still very much in the poor me stage, and everything was to blame for his addiction but himself.
When they did the Friends reunion thing, I felt like the others excluded him a bit, didn’t fully interact with him, were a bit embarrassed by him. I felt sorry for him.
I now think he’d probably pushed most of them to the limits of friendship.
I’m certain now that the reason they were fairly slow
to put out statements after his death was because they knew they had to tread carefully, given that the sad truth was likely to come out about how clean he was (not).
I don’t know why I feel compelled to write such a lengthy post; I guess I just feel like his life and death are a perfect example of the fact that actors are always acting, and we never should never necessarily believe what they present as their real face.

 

[Webster2468]

Why should he unfollow porn stars?

Indeed - he also follows BBC The One Show! He clearly likes to mix it up

 

[BettyDraper]

I think it’s a tad unfair. He’s obviously lonely after his break up and he thought this girl liked him. If anyone’s in the wrong it’s her, why humiliate him like that? He didn’t do anything wrong in my opinion.

Completely agree. He seems to be quite a fragile person in terms of his addiction issues and he’s certainly been photographed looking quite unwell within the past couple of years. I’m not seeing him as the exploitative one here.

 

[MrsDimSum]

So sad to read how they were talking about him too. “I wonder how much this moron is willing to pay”

 

[Flowerpotgirl]

One of his exes did an interview saying he was good at persuading people to do favours like asking her to pick up packages and it was only after a while she realised what she was actually collecting. She said he did it with a few people so his hands would be clean and to everyone, he was drug-free when he was far from it. When asked, she said that was likely how Brooke was or is involved in it. Whether she is telling the truth or bullshitting for attention, I have no clue.

At the minute Brooke is claiming to be clean. She has joint custody of the boys but they live with Charlie and she just visits. One of the clauses is if she tests positive for drugs or alcohol, he gets full custody so I would assume she is regularly tested.

I know people just love him, but I honestly wonder if he was ever really clean. I strongly suspect not, sadly. Brooke is another one who never seems to manage being sober. Imagine your kids being deemed safer to live with CHARLIE SHEEN! That’s really saying something.

 

[BigBrenda]

Feel really weird about this. Genuinely feel really sad about him dying. I knew he was troubled but what a shock. Hope he finds his peace now bless him.

 

[WadieHaddadsChocolates]

I did read the book.
And I thought he came across as incredibly self absorbed and selfish.
I read it thinking that it was an account of addiction by someone who’d cleaned up.
But actually, finding out that he hadn’t, doesn’t surprise me. Because it was very clear that he’d not reached the point of being truly sorry for the effect his addiction had had on others.
He was still very much in the poor me stage, and everything was to blame for his addiction but himself.
When they did the Friends reunion thing, I felt like the others excluded him a bit, didn’t fully interact with him, were a bit embarrassed by him. I felt sorry for him.
I now think he’d probably pushed most of them to the limits of friendship.
I’m certain now that the reason they were fairly slow
to put out statements after his death was because they knew they had to tread carefully, given that the sad truth was likely to come out about how clean he was (not).
I don’t know why I feel compelled to write such a lengthy post; I guess I just feel like his life and death are a perfect example of the fact that actors are always acting, and we never should never necessarily believe what they present as their real face.

Agree with all this.

I saw some interview he did a while ago for promotion of the book and thought he came off as entitled, bitter and thoroughly spoiled, tbqh. Not a likeable character, and he struck me as a 50 year old with an adolescent attitude in certain respects. they do say people get fixed at the age they become famous sometimes. His humour was bitter as hell too. He must have been hell to live with - anyone who comes off this badly publicly when trying to sell themselves is going to be a private nightmare.

He also was reportedly bitter as hell about women, and in denial about why his relationships failed, accusing them of wanting his money, but clearly went after women for whom the money would be the main factor of attraction. You're not getting a normal, well balanced woman to live with his level of addiction and attitude and mess, let alone a woman who has her own money. He positioned himself at women who would put up with him for the lifestyle being with a sick, bitter but very very rich dude would entail and even then couldn't keep them around.

I think fame is the worst thing for people like Perry, tbqh, especially the type of hugely lucrative fame which meant he never had to work again. It seems if there's a major personality flaw, it magnifies it.

I do find it interesting how mcuh time and work has gone into tracking and charging everyone involved in his OD, including the obviously corrupt doctors. It's good those people are prosecuted. However, the little people who die the same way rarely get anywhere near the attention given to their cases, which are no more or less tragic.

 

[Lonewolf]

Can't stand that margoyles she's a vulger little witch

 

[Tryger88]

“In time we will say more”? A slightly odd thing to say

In context I think they just mean when they feel comfortable to do so individually in their own personal way, they shouldn't have to be forced to rush out and post something just because the media are hungry for the clicks.

 

[femmegirly]

Addiction is an illness, but it’s an illness that turns the sufferer into a mean, scary, cruel, desperate, intolerable lying cunt. There’s a reason that none of the other Friends kept in touch with him, but kept in touch with each other. God knows what his live-in PA saw, heard and endured. The PA seemed to be the only person who was in his day-to-day life at the end.

My Aunt and Uncle drove round the worst bit of Dundee to buy drugs (heroin) for my cousin and helped him inject when he wasn’t able to. My aunt and uncle are the loveliest people who were in their 70s when this happened but were beaten down and manipulated by my cousin. You don’t know what it’s like till you’ve lived it. I hate my cousin for doing that to them, but they had very little support at the time and it got to the point that it was easier to give in to his demands.

 

[Plinkplonk]

A couple of the tributes (I think schwimmer's and Lisa kudrow's) talk about 'the 10 years' they had together which kind of suggests they weren't really in each other's lives once the show was over.
Jen's was definitely the most heartfelt.

 

[Sure…Media!]

I hope the rest of the cast are being left to their own grief rather than the media looking for the first statement

 

[Squittel]

This really is so sad. I’ve never been a fan of Friends, it just isn’t my style of humour but I always liked him. Out of all of them there was always an element of just… normality about him. Or as normal as you can be as a world famous multi millionaire. I guess it was his vulnerabilities.

I feel sad that he ended up living what was probably quite a lonely life. Yes, he had money and big houses but such underlying sadness to it all. I wasn’t shocked when I read the news, saddened absolutely but not shocked or surprised.

He seemed lovely, but a tortured soul. I hope he is remembered for more than his work on Friends.

I’ve already seen plenty of tweets taking the piss out of him dying in a jacuzzi which is depressing. I don’t think people realise just how dangerous water can be. As covered in here it could easily have been a heart attack. Or he could have slipped and bumped his head. There are plenty of ways to die in water without drugs and alcohol involved (and plenty more ways if they are involved)

I’m not a believer but I do hope he is at peace now.