Madeleine McCann Netflix documentary

[uwu]

Also lets not forget that Gerry who started blogging once Madeleine went missing mentioned throwing away a fridge that was in their room and then deleted that part of the blog later. Now why on earth would you throw away a 'broken' fridge yourself, why wouldn't you alert the hotel who would get maintenance to look at it.

This is my opinion but I think they stored her body inside that fridge and then disposed of both together at the same time. It makes sense and obviously the PJ think the same as well as they kept mentioning a fridge in their investigation.

 

[Anita]

Cadaver odour was found in the living room behind the sofa ( that’s by 2 windows ) by the wardrobe in the Mccanns bedroom, in a bed of flowers under the bedroom were Maddie slept with her siblings, a pair of pijamas from Maddie, her toy cat, 2 items of Kate’s clothing and then the boot of the car and the car keys! I mean it wasn’t just one place was it!!! The dog wouldn’t get it wrong, never! That’s what they been trained to do!

 

[Queenie]

This is awful! My daugthers 4 and i just couldnt do that to her. No one would surely!

I never let my kids out of my sight, especially in a foreigh country. But I remember being in Gran Canaria the summer after Madeleine disappeared & a couple used to leave their baby in their hotel room for it’s nap, bring their baby monitor down to the pool & sunbathe for hours. Some people don’t deserve kids.

 

[Youtubegossip]

I wondered this but then I thought, by this time they already knew they were the main suspects and their legal team would have advised it. If someone was trying to pin my own child’s “murder” onto me I would listen to my legal advisor so that the case would remain open.

Just my thoughts I don’t think we will ever knew the full truth sadly.

Yeah exactly if you’ve done absolutely nothing wrong there’s nothing to be ‘pinned’ on you. It’s all very odd. Apparently Kate was muttering in interviews that they were dumb or something along those lines too?

Think the priest being a ‘shell’ of himself now is really realllllllly odd too

The points that we know to be FACT and not just us speculating:

1. Gerry replaced a broken fridge in the rental property. He apparently wrote this on his own blog
2. The dogs smelt both blood and cadaver in the room, in the later apartment they stayed at and in the rental car
3. The twins didn’t wake up for hours despite screaming and commotion constantly
4. Kate refused to answer numerous questions on legal advise but they released the info about her eye despite being told not to
5. There are pictures of them laughing with friends a couple of days later
6. The door was unlocked but the window was then opened and the only trace of ANYONE was Kate’s handprint
7. The stories kept changing about when they were checking and they also lied saying the room could be seen from where they were at the tapas bar

Obviously we’ll never know but those things don’t paint a great picture for them. There’s more too that’s just off the top of my head. It’s a travesty really, poor Madeline

 

[Apple In My Pie]

I haven’t watched the documentary but I’m very interested to get into it, I’ve read into the background of the case a little bit over the years, it really affects me because I remember Maddie going missing so well, she’s only a few years younger than I am.

(If this isn’t allowed please LMK but...)
Something I can’t shake off though is I really think Gerry was somehow involved (well, they both were!) but I do feel as if he was part of some sort of paedophile ring or similar, I remember there being rumours or hearing rumours that Gerry had accessed child abuse images which were subsequently destroyed and that there was an active paedophile ring around the Praia de Luz community?
Also that Gerry had made comments with one of the friends regarding the children, something to do with ‘making a sucking motion with the fingers’. (Might’ve read that in this thread actually!) which I found bizarre.
Something I also found weird was in the book ‘Madeleine’ written by Kate, there was a reference to something about when Maddie was born and her ‘perfect little genitals’, just thought that was an odd thing to think or to even comment on in a book? Perfect little fingers/toes/nose maybe but genitals? :s

Something just doesn’t feel right to me iykwim? I know they still have full custody of their children (I don’t think they should fwiw I think they need to be charged with neglect) so obviously shouting pweirdo is perhaps a bit over dramatic but it’s something I’ve never been able to shake off! I definitely think the pair of them know what happened to poor Madeleine though!

 

[Queenie]

Well I guess judging by some comments on here, that it’s perfectly normal to leave 3 children under 3 alone, in a foreign country with the apartment unlocked, because this, this really happened and no one seems to make this a fact, it’s not anecdotal, it’s a fact, so whatever happened to Maddie it was her parents fault! How do people forget that?! It’s a joke!

Exactly! The ONLY reason Madeleine went missing is solely her parent’s doing. Not saying they killed her but had they been looking after her properly we would not be having this debate now. Madeleine would be alive & well had she not been left alone that night.
I bet their house was well locked up & secured & everything in it insured when they went on holiday yet they left their most precious pissessions alone in an unlocked apartment. Those children were far too young & vulnerable to be left like this & incapable of raising the alarm or defending themselves against intruders. I bet when Kate & Gerry returned to the apartment after their boozy dinner each night they locked the door behind them, so only thinking if themselves!
They left themselves wide open for something like this to happen & unfortunately an innocent child suffered for their selfishness. It makes me furious!

 

[Youtubegossip]

I so hope that before I die the real truth of all of this finally comes out. It’s like watching a crime drama on tv and the end never getting released

 

[Anita]

The truth is they have lied about a lot of things, and I don’t know about you but if that was me and I was innocent I would say come on question me all you want because I have nothing to hide, the quicker we do it the quicker we will be out there looking for her! But no, there was photos of them having lunch and laughing actually laughing days after she went missing! Who does that?!?

 

[SarahGard83]

How can they compare it to dining out in your own garden? Yes I've put my children to bed and enjoyed some time in the garden when they were younger but I knew it they were to wake I'd be able to hear them and that they were in a familiar place with familiar surroundings. If they were to wander out of bed then they wouldn't get far. This was a foreign country and NOT in plain sight of the restaurant. It's neglect!

 

[Mayday]

 

[Bandmcarrierbag]

I think the public believe the parents had something to do with t because nothing seems to add up. I also think there is a class issue. If they hadn’t been two drs just a single mum from a council estate they would have been ripped apart by the press.

People can’t inderstand why kate left the twins when she found Madeleine gone, why she didn’t answer the questions, why she washed her toy and so on.

 

[Youtubegossip]

Also lets not forget that Gerry who started blogging once Madeleine went missing mentioned throwing away a fridge that was in their room and then deleted that part of the blog later. Now why on earth would you throw away a 'broken' fridge yourself, why wouldn't you alert the hotel who would get maintenance to look at it.

This is my opinion but I think they stored her body inside that fridge and then disposed of both together at the same time. It makes sense and obviously the PJ think the same as well as they kept mentioning a fridge in their investigation.

Threw away a fridge? Why on earth would you throw away a fridge when you are staying in a complex where staff members would do that or get it fixed for you. Would never even cross my mind to dispose of a fridge in Portugal.

Get more annoyed the more I hear

 

[karenjet]

What’s bugging me is that all the criticism I’ve seen is for the parents - who I do agree were neglectful. And I’ve seen nothing criticising the police. Any potential evidence was destroyed by having dozens of people in the crime scene that night. They botched the investigation from the very beginning by not having the area sealed off.

Social services would never have removed the twins because of neglect. They’re well loved, happy and healthy.

Maybe a bit personal but a long time ago now I found the body of someone very close to me. If you’d asked me before how I would have acted I would have said I’d be hysterical for days. Looking back now it seems mental but at the time I was stressing about the mess on the floor and worried the police would think my home was dirty.
Seems completely ridiculous now. If I’d had tv cameras there I’m 100% I would have looked suspicious to everybody. You think you know how you’d act in the face of trauma but being in that situation can be very different.

 

[uwu]

I want to know why THEY the parents didn't bother to actively search once for their Daughter, joined no searches whatsoever. It's because they knew she was dead and they knew where they buried/dumped her body.

People need to really dig deeper into this case rather than believing a one sided documentary (which is rumored to of been funded by the McCanns) which leaves out so much information that is easily found in the PJ files.

All the money they spent from that fund was on dodgy investigators and fighting the libel suit in Portugal oh and to pay off their mortgage. None was used to actually find Madeleine.

 

[Twittwat]

^ What I don't understand is why they didn't have a babysitter with the children, apparently the resort offered this free of charge (surely they could afford it, though?) Maybe the McCanns and the other parents in their group probably felt embarrassed this would have been practically every night but even so.
I find it difficult not believing the theory about Madeleine waking up in a daze due to being given Calpol or something similar and unfortunately fell and hit her head on the hard floor by the sofa where the specialist dogs alerted like crazy. If so, I'm curious as to where they disposed of her body without anyone seeing anything. It's awful to think about but just can't get my head around it.
I don't know if it's already been mentioned but statement analysis expert Peter Hyatt has an interesting video on YouTube explaining how he's of the opinion the McCanns know their daughter is dead. His account doesn't mean he's 100% correct but it's definitely food for thought.

Apparently it didn’t fit in with the children’s sleeping routine to put them in the night crèche because it meant them going to bed very early because the selfish idiots couldn’t wait a couple more hours to go out on the piss. Which made no sense anyway because they went out at 8pm.. surely that’s a normal bed time for 2 babies and a 3 year old?

 

[Anita]

No one is saying that they killed her nor is the police, they think it was an accident, they were after all left unattended for hours by their own parents in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country whilst their parents had a few drinks and eat with friends, so whatever happens to her it’s the parents fault, who after all are meant to protect and be there for them when in need, and they weren’t. Police didn’t try and frame anyone for anything, they were juts trying to do their job the best way they could buy unfortunately it wasn’t meant to be. The conclusion the police came about this case is from evidence not especulations, that’s why he felt the need to write the book so people know what he was up against, a lot of politics that’s for sure.

 

[GiggleBee]

I find the parents soo dodgy! Kate , the mum is adamant she was kidnapped, yet police think she got the apartment and was looking for her parents. Kate is 100% sure she was kidnapped - I find it so strange. Her parents or someone on that holiday know a lot more than they are letting on.
Reminds me of jonbenet Ramsay - parents know a lot more!

Didn't she shout 'theyve taken her' when she saw the empty bed? That's not normal.

 

[Bubu]

I’m so confused about the former head of CEOP (child exploitation and online protection) -Jim Gamble. Something very shady about him. I’m on episode 5 atm but in a prior episode when he was talking about Gerry and advising him how to write a letter to madeleines abductors he was telling him it’s never to late to realise you’ve done a stupid thing (it was along those lines anyway). And he said he was saying this as he was trying to get that into Gerry’s head as he thought he may have been behind this as he felt something wasn’t right about him. But then on episode 5, around the 50 minute mark he says
the Portuguese police were “clutching at straws” when Kate and Gerry were made suspects. Why such a massive contradiction?

Did a bit of reading last night and there are theories that Gerry in 2002 was convicted of having child pornography, but all records of this got deleted and all was left was an empty CAT file where all the information on the offences should have been. Who do they think deleted the file? None other than Jim Gamble. Who better to lead a paedophile ring than the head of CEOP?!

Edited to add- I got to the end of that episode and Jim gamble is now of the opinion that the McCanns have nothing to do with it and he seems to be basing that opinion on seeing the twins loving relationship with Gerry McCann. Wtf?! That doesn’t make him innocent especially if madeleines death was accidental. And covering up her accidental death if they’d drugged her would make it an even more plausible theory of what happened if Gerry did have a CAT file for child pornography prior, as they would have lost custody of the twins and their jobs etc

 

[Dontsugarcoatit]

No thought not, I was actually concerned I was a massively over protective parent (I’m really not the things my boys do is just ridiculous, I mean the 16 year old climbed in the loft this week, waited until I came upstairs and dropped down out of the hatch to scare me the little swine, that’s not a child that’s molly coddled) but I wouldn’t ever leave them asleep abroad in an unlocked or locked apartment, what if there was a fire and they’re locked in!? Honestly doesn’t bare thinking about.

Can I also come to the point lots of people have made that if I was a “council estate mum” (god I hate that term I know lovely people who live on council estates but I know what you’re getting at) they’d have been arrested on landing in the uk and done with negligence and endangering a minor. Why have social services paid no visits to this family? My eldest went to school full of Kevin the teenager nonsense “I hate my mum” “she treats me like a slave” (he’s most certainly not whipped, starved and shackled just simply asked to do the dishwasher) “there’s nothing in” (there’s no potnoodles he can rush to eat so he can go back to his PS4) you get my drift, by 4pm I had 2 women from social services here asking to check my kitchen cupboards and fridge and the children’s bedrooms and asking about the children’s chores I mean, seriously? Yet these utter half Whitt’s left 3 babies in a room abroad, unlocked and pissed off for a meal and some drinks after not even having the poor little buggas all day and they’re okay Pull the other one

 

[whatamess123]

I haven’t decided if I can watch it yet.

I’m glad they used her name in the title though. Calling her Maddie drives me absolutely crazy. It’s taking her name away from her. And she herself apparently hated that and corrected people if they called her it. I remember James Bulger’s mother saying the same when people would call him Jamie.

Agreed.Just starting it now. Talking about James Bulger ,and his parents (especially his mother) ,and comparing them ,is like night and day.James` mother fought from day one for her son ,still raises money for charities for lost children.She is truly inspirational. The Mccans` on the other hand ,seemed to grab the donations ,and the limelight.God i hope i`m wrong in disbelieving their stories..