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Why would the UK government, Cherie Blair, Gordon Brown, the Forensic Science Service and the British Police conspire together to protect the McCanns?
Why exactly would professionals in a prestigious role collude and risk everything to protect 2x parents who had killed or concealed the death of their child?
What's in it for them to do this, they wouldn't do it for nothing. I've got to say It sounds completely crazy to me.
you can think or believe what ever you want , I don't give a rats a, Because the Truth of what happened in PDL will come out at some point I firmly believe
P.S. try reading the case files just type McCann and case file's into Google and you shall find!
 
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you can think or believe what ever you want , I don't give a rats a, Because the Truth of what happened in PDL will come out at some point I firmly believe
P.S. try reading the case files just type McCann and case file's into Google and you shall find!
Sorry to be thick, what’s a PDL?
 
Why would the UK government, Cherie Blair, Gordon Brown, the Forensic Science Service and the British Police conspire together to protect the McCanns?
Why exactly would professionals in a prestigious role collude and risk everything to protect 2x parents who had killed or concealed the death of their child?
What's in it for them to do this, they wouldn't do it for nothing. I've got to say It sounds completely crazy to me.
I tend to think a lot of politicians got involved just to give support back in the early days before the 'negligence' side was really discussed. Someone on here described in detail how Gordon Brown was a personal friend of a neighbour of one of Gerrys friends (or something like that) Unlikely to be a conspiracy? Missing little kids are always a huge story (since Sarah payne, Holly and Jessica in Soham) so they probably just wanted to jump on the bandwagon and show their caring side!
 
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I tend to think a lot of politicians got involved just to give support back in the early days before the 'negligence' side was really discussed. Someone on here described in detail how Gordon Brown was a personal friend of a neighbour of one of Gerrys friends (or something like that) Unlikely to be a conspiracy? Missing little kids are always a huge story (since Sarah payne, Holly and Jessica in Soham) so they probably just wanted to jump on the bandwagon and show their caring side!
Hi,
just to say it was Gordon Browns Brother who was a neighbour of Jill Renwick the McCann's friend who lived in Glasgow or the surrounding area
please see below for an article that appeared in the Guardian in 2007 ( to add this article must have been written after Gordon Brown became PM as he was still the Chancellor of the Exchequer in May 4th 2007)

Jill Renwick
Renwick, who has known the couple since they all worked together at a Glasgow Hospital more than a decade ago, played an integral role in alerting the media of Madeleine's disappearance early on. Renwick spoke to Kate at 7am on the morning after Madeleine vanished, She described the anguish of the missing girl's mother as she pleaded for help, saying that they had been abandoned by searchers after scouring the resort all night. Renwick mobilised the McCann's wider circle of friend's, This led to phone calls to GMTV, the CID, defence secretary Des Browne and Newsnight presenter Kirsty Wark, she also stopped John Brown brother of the Prime Minister, who lived on the same streets herald asked him to bring it to the PM's attention
 
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From the Guardian 02.06.2007;
Jill Renwick has known the couple (Kate and Gerry McCann) since they all worked together at a Glasgow hospital more than a decade ago. She spoke to Kate at 7am on the morning after Madeleine vanished: "She just said, 'Help me, please help me'. She said, 'We've been searching all night until 4.30am, and then everybody left us'. At that stage there was only one police officer at the door. They didn't know what to do. So I phoned GMTV."
She also phoned the McCanns' wider circle of friends, who mobilised to phone anyone they could think of to beg for help. Renwick's sister called someone she knew in CID, someone had a connection with Des Browne, the defence secretary. One friend lives close to the Newsnight presenter Kirsty Wark, said Renwick: "She knocked on her door and said, 'I know you must think I'm mad but my friend's wee girl is missing, can you do anything to help?' Though they are not friends, Gordon Brown's brother John lives in the same street as Renwick: "I stopped him in the street the day afterwards and said, 'These are my friends. Do you think you could speak to Gordon about it?' And he said of course. I don't know if anything came about that way."

So the McCanns knew people who knew people and they put the word out that MM was missing. If my child was missing I'd do exactly the same.
 
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you can think or believe what ever you want , I don't give a rats a, Because the Truth of what happened in PDL will come out at some point I firmly believe
P.S. try reading the case files just type McCann and case file's into Google and you shall find!
Admit it, you want your version to be true don't you as you'll get some sort of satisfaction out of it. You think that because they were guilty of being poor parents in leaving the children alone then this would be punishment for them. I bet you'd still even think they did it if CCTV was produced showing the German sicko caught in the act.
 
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From the Guardian 02.06.2007;
Jill Renwick has known the couple (Kate and Gerry McCann) since they all worked together at a Glasgow hospital more than a decade ago. She spoke to Kate at 7am on the morning after Madeleine vanished: "She just said, 'Help me, please help me'. She said, 'We've been searching all night until 4.30am, and then everybody left us'. At that stage there was only one police officer at the door. They didn't know what to do. So I phoned GMTV."
She also phoned the McCanns' wider circle of friends, who mobilised to phone anyone they could think of to beg for help. Renwick's sister called someone she knew in CID, someone had a connection with Des Browne, the defence secretary. One friend lives close to the Newsnight presenter Kirsty Wark, said Renwick: "She knocked on her door and said, 'I know you must think I'm mad but my friend's wee girl is missing, can you do anything to help?' Though they are not friends, Gordon Brown's brother John lives in the same street as Renwick: "I stopped him in the street the day afterwards and said, 'These are my friends. Do you think you could speak to Gordon about it?' And he said of course. I don't know if anything came about that way."

So the McCanns knew people who knew people and they put the word out that MM was missing. If my child was missing I'd do exactly the same.
They weren’t searching though. It was too cold and dark!!
 
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They weren’t searching though. It was too cold and dark!!
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I don't know? In her book, Kate mccann describes being out until the small hours searching, going down a back alley on her own and opening the bins in terror of what she might find. They spent some of the night in the friends apartment then gerry and someone else went back out looking at about 6am. She says she didn't sleep for days. I felt for her to be honest.
 
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I've just been catching up with this thread. The new book sounds interesting, though again you wonder why he doesn't just take his evidence to the police rather than try to make money. Somewhere up thread is a discussion about the McCanns and co staging an accident/disposing of Madeleine's body to save their careers/lifestyle etc. I'm in the same business as them and am sure they would never have lost their careers for losing a child in an 'accident'. They could have glossed over the negligence part - look how quickly they got out of Dodge when questions about that were raised. As a motive to stage M's abduction it doesn't work. The GMC doesn't even strike off doctors who've accidentally killed their patients.
The theory goes that it wasn’t that they staged an abduction because they were worried about losing their jobs. It is that they were making decisions in real time in split seconds, and the speculation is that the loss of jobs issue must have been on their minds along with other things as they quickly came up with a plan. And that plan unfolded and developed and changed in real time as the minutes, hours, days and weeks passed, including seeding the idea of (rather than “staging”) an abduction because they had to have an explanation as to why their child had vanished.

It can’t be understood really unless you put yourself in their shoes as it was happening - not years later with the benefit of hindsight.

So they find M dead behind the sofa and have to make some drastic immediate decisions in a matter of minutes. There is no time for a long chat about whether or not the GMC will strike them off because they’ve killed their own kid due to negligence. And even if they were confident the GMC wouldn't strike them off, they would certainly have been aware that they were facing:

- a lot of questions about said negligence (and how exactly do you “get out of dodge” about that when you’ve admitted that your 4 year old child is dead and you were at the restaurant when she died and had done the same thing every night that week?)
- Portuguese police involvement and a potential court case in a foreign country, and possible jail time
- a lot of uncertainty for days, weeks, months and the implications of all that on the twins
- the other friends dragged into it
- a huge potential scandal if the papers get hold of it
- and in the light of that possible scandal, questions about their professional competence from the wider public (which surely would impact any decisions by the GMC?).

All this presumably would have gone through their minds in a flash. And then it was a question of cutting their losses and doing what needed to be done, which is I’m sure how Gerry at least would have thought about it.
 
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The theory goes that it wasn’t that they staged an abduction because they were worried about losing their jobs. It is that they were making decisions in real time in split seconds, and the speculation is that the loss of jobs issue must have been on their minds along with other things as they quickly came up with a plan. And that plan unfolded and developed and changed in real time as the minutes, hours, days and weeks passed, including seeding the idea of (rather than “staging”) an abduction because they had to have an explanation as to why their child had vanished.

It can’t be understood really unless you put yourself in their shoes as it was happening - not years later with the benefit of hindsight.

So they find M dead behind the sofa and have to make some drastic immediate decisions in a matter of minutes. There is no time for a long chat about whether or not the GMC will strike them off because they’ve killed their own kid due to negligence. And even if they were confident the GMC wouldn't strike them off, they would certainly have been aware that they were facing:

- a lot of questions about said negligence (and how exactly do you “get out of dodge” about that when you’ve admitted that your 4 year old child is dead and you were at the restaurant when she died and had done the same thing every night that week?)
- Portuguese police involvement and a potential court case in a foreign country, and possible jail time
- a lot of uncertainty for days, weeks, months and the implications of all that on the twins
- the other friends dragged into it
- a huge potential scandal if the papers get hold of it
- and in the light of that possible scandal, questions about their professional competence from the wider public (which surely would impact any decisions by the GMC?).

All this presumably would have gone through their minds in a flash. And then it was a question of cutting their losses and doing what needed to be done, which is I’m sure how Gerry at least would have thought about it.
Interesting post👍. I get your point about 'real time' thinking, you're making it up as you go along without the benefit of hindsight.
I've never bought into the idea MM died from an accidental fall - kids are tough, you would break your fall from a relatively low height such as a window ledge and would be unlikely to sustain a head injury, also head injuries even if serious don't usually cause death straight away, it can take days to die.

I can see 'real time' thinking playing a part in the 'window slammed shut' and 'the windows were jemmied' story; the parents tried to conceal that they'd left the door unlocked and tried to create a story that an intruder broke in via the window as this looked better than saying they left the door unlocked.
 
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If you’re drugged and slip off the back of a settee onto a tiled floor I can absolutely see a fatal head injury occurring.
 
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