reads like a good summary to me!I've been devoting a LOT of time to reading the case files. Witness statements, procedural evidence, follow-ups by UK police. It's fascinating.
It also seems that
1) the Portuguese police did a very poor job, initially
2) all the 'Tapas 7' felt an element of guilt at the childcare arrangements (unsurprising)
3) Gerry's personality doesn't lend itself to gaining sympathy
4) many of the wilder theories can be discounted by looking at the evidence
5) David Payne's interviews are rambling but that doesn't indicate any wrongdoing
6) Yvonne Martin acted in an astonishing fashion. She had no authority to question the McCanns or anyone else, and clearly she bore a grudge in not being allowed to get involved. Nasty sounding woman!
7) I hope further work was done in recovering mobile phone evidence. There's a few unanswered questions there.
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reads like a good summary to me!
Where did I mention Leicestershire Police or the Met? Why jump to that?
Just about everyday there's a news item about crap policing and corrupt and abusive officers all over the UK (but mainly the Met). Have you read the inquiry reports about these forces? Any force currently appears to be vulnerable to such exposés so someone from any force could feel touchy about it.
No one is using slang but rather British English.
You really should know that you shouldn't put words into people's mouths. That's what freed the Guildford Four and Birmingham Six after all.
I'm not trying to discredit you; I'm sorry that you don't like your authority being questioned. You were, after all, the one who was keen to tell us that this was your professional area.
Now, let's get on with the thread.
I don’t have any authority, just a somewhat niche perspective
I’ve always rather wanted to know if David Payne handed over the mobile phones as promised in his Rotatory interview.
Yes, that's the kind of thing you assume/hope the police forces followed up.
Quite possibly means nothing, but loose ends, like the deleted phone calls & texts, needed to be investigated further.
I feel some of the interviews lost meaning in translation. Looks like a few misinterpretations there.
Not the Rogatorys, they were in English and just straight transcribed.
What was the main gist about his phone? I mostly remember him mentioning phone numbers and the transcript is a pain to read
The police were asking him to check to whom numbers belonged, but he had a new phone which didn't have all the numbers. He offered to locate his previous phone for them.
David Payne's phone was also used by his partner Fiona, as she didn't have hers on holiday. And on occasion calls were made on behalf of others, like Gerry or Kate.
David Payne's phone was also used by his partner Fiona, as she didn't have hers on holiday. And on occasion calls were made on behalf of others, like Gerry or Kate.
There were also a number of Pay-as-you-Go phones that someone got for them (I think they had errrr one and the McCanns errrr* had the other) but he couldn’t remember the numbers but he thought he might still have them both Or one at least. Maybe. But he would look for it.
I sometimes wonder if it/they ever turned up.
(*flashbacks there to reading the interviews)
Yeah, such a lot of 'err'
In Fiona's interview it's 'tut'
In Fiona's interview it's 'tut'
But at least she got jammy dodgers.
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This case stinks to high heaven
It does indeed.
I never understood how the McCanns got a PR spokesperson in place so fast. I can’t remember when Clarence Mitchell came into the picture but I think there had been another PR in place for a couple of months. And they don’t come cheap. Paid for out of the Madeleine Fund I assume, or was it the taxpayer? I found their obsession with promoting themselves and “protecting their reputation” very weird, as you say when one’s entire focus as a parent with a missing child would be to find that child.
Sonia Poulton covers it all in her documentary. She did another one about the McCanns and the U.K. police. Really fascinating work and well worth a look if you haven’t seen it.
Weirdly, all of those people who did documentaries about the case you can watch on YT also have rather weird videos about conspiracy theories, which discredits them a bit for me.
Just seen on the Daily Mail so I won’t hold my breath.
They’ve been saying this for years now it feels like
This mornings tweet from MWT
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I can’t stand him.
Tbh it’s possibly a rumour put out by the McCann team to keep Madeleine in the public’s minds because she far more important than all the other missing children.
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How can they charge him with Madeleine's murder when there is no body? There's no proof that she's still alive, but no proof that she is dead either.
He hasn't had anything to do with Madeleine McCann disappearance. I think that German detective wants to go down in history as the cop that caught the killer
The mccanns will happily go along with it if it points the finger well away from them. They were the last people to see Madeleine. The police usually would take that stance. For reasons only known to themselves they havent!
The mccanns will happily go along with it if it points the finger well away from them. They were the last people to see Madeleine. The police usually would take that stance. For reasons only known to themselves they havent!
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