The experts Dr Dewey and Bohin both said the blotchiness it could only happen if air was administered, and obviously that means air has entered the abdomen.
I don’t think it would look the same. I think that’s exactly what the radiologist said today, that it can happen from a line but this is unlike anything he’s seen before and such an amount and the placement means it’s highly likely ‘air administered’ as in purposeful because of the amount and force. If this could happen from accidental air embolism in a line, I would expect people to have seen it many times before and it would be more common in general, not for it to be highly unusual. I think his point today was it was extremely rare for neonates to ever die from air embolism full stop. I guess I’d conclude that with so many babies having lines like this, you would think although everyone is obvs trying to minimise the risk of it happening all the time- it would surely happen more often and look the same way as the two babies he’s seen it in on this case but he hasn’t, only these two
I don’t know if I’m the only one figuring it like that though! Maybe somebody cleverer can think on that ha xI think she was confident that she wouldn’t be found guilty because of the different methods used.
Exactly. This is a gossip forum at the end of the day
Because the prosecution are hanging onto this 'she was present at every single case' argument and so I'd be interested to know the full landscape of the collapses/deaths. If there were 10 collapses and deaths in a month and she was present at them all, sure that looks suspicious. If there were 30 collapses/deaths in a month and she was present/on shift for 10, that changes things dramatically. We only know what the prosecution have given us so far, and they've been (as is their job) selective with the info.Can I ask, why does what Lucy didn’t do mean she is somehow more likely to be innocent for the things she is alleged to have done? The point of the investigation into the charges she is up for is that they are unexplained and have evidence of foul play. I’m not sure why explained events that don’t show foul play or her lack of presence mean she wasn’t capable of the things she’s accused of
I wasn't really referring to this case, it's just not a good precedent to set that if you are a witness, you also are free game for you personal life to be exposed and scrutinised. In this case yes it's good you'd volunteer, but it should be choice not an expectation or you are also being treated like a criminal on trial. There is a reason these things can only happen when charged. They also would never have the time or resources.
That’s deeply concerning if true. Regardless of if she’s guilty or not guilty, that hospital believed she should be moved to days because they feared she was somewhat to blame for infant deaths and collapses and not only did they move her to day shift, let her supervise a student nurse, but they also allowed her to cover nights when short staffed?!? Shocking.
I’m not saying people aren’t thrown under the bus within the NHS/ any work place. I’m not saying that’s unbelievable, I just think it is very hard to believe with such a huge allegation.
Wow. Although I can’t pretend I understand it all, it definitely makes for very interesting reading.
hello! With respect and if it’s ok to answer your question.. do we think we on Google are going to find out more about air embolism than these medical experts? I would think more than likely not. I think they will have probably looked into these scenarios and options already before they’ve concluded that it’s been administered. I’m not policing people on speculating that way, it’s just my honest answer to that question. We’ll definitely hear more about why they feel that way. I am sure the defence will continue to push that kind of idea, maybe their expert will offer something like that (although I think they’re pushing that it was cpr and after PM air) but they’re going to have to do that lots of times when findings are similar. So lots of bizarre and rare accidents, bad luck, coincidence the unexplained and unexpected things happen after LL interventions, whole unit negligence AND evidence that it’s administered is wrong AND two other babies poisoned which means a different murderer or 2. I am aware people might think I’m being obnoxious listing it like that but genuinely I feel that’s what it looks like and I feel it’s going to get harder and harder to explain. Thanks x
It happens all the time, just 9/10 you’re not aware of it as it’s not reported. I get it might appear “unorganised” but I don’t really know what you want to have happened? They have all concrete evidence before an arrest? That doesn’t happen unfortunately. As I have mentioned before, she was arrested further times to allow her to be questioned under caution of the further charges that came to light as they did their investigation. She HAS to be given an opportunity to answer the charges & any evidence. They’ve done everything right here police procedure wise
Who else would it be? Noone else was there for all of them like she was, that's part of why she's here in the first place. Unless we are adding a conspiracy to murder babies and frame her? That seems very elaborate.
Nurse Bennion was described as a Senior Neonatal Practitioner. It’s unclear but I think that might mean she’s a Nurse Practitioner. If so it’s a big step up from a Staff Nurse as she would be very experienced and have additional training in diagnosis and would probably be able to prescribe a limited number of drugs. If this is the case she’s a very experienced and knowledgeable lady.
I absolutely believe this...I still struggle with the sheer number. There's hospital failings and there's failings. This is absolutely colossal and that is why I think its malicious but I certainly believe some of the staff will cover their own backs.
Yeah can we not lay the blame at his feet. He seems to be getting more rage than her herself and I don't think that's fair.
