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She literally wrote a note saying ‘I killed them on purpose because i am not good enough to care for them’ ‘I am evil I did this’. That’s far more damning than a doctor saying he should have done more when he had suspicions.
I know it’s going to sound daft, but if she did this, I can’t fathom how she could do normal, everyday things like go on holiday to Ibiza, buy a house, go clubbing with her friends and then go to work and kill babies. It’s like how can you just disassociate so much and carry on like everything is normal?I sort of what to know but don’t want to know what sort of force is required to inject a significant amount of air into the blood stream
I wondering if she spent the holiday in Ibiza jonesing for a hit. Be telling what she googled or text in that time.
I also was wondering if her parents are there supporting her regardless. Like in we need to talk about Kevin.
The legal standard for the jury is ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ not 100% certain. I do understand what you are saying about unusual doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened elsewhere and mean something other than air embolus, but in the absence of any other medical expert evidence (appreciate this might come with the defence) then the jury are within their right to accept the prosecutions finite number of experts as true, beyond reasonable doubt.
He's done a LL summary of today so I can only assume he's there but maybe we've given him performance anxiety
Looks like he’s not the only one to be angry at then. But very, very damning for Lucy that multiple colleagues had suspicions about her. Especially if we don’t see her raise any concerns herself. And very damning that the hospital bosses ignored the concerns people were raising.
Exactly. Only one other time he has seen it and it’s in this case. To me the other stuff sounds like he’s scrutinising the research this is based on. Saying that his judgment it has to be administered with force or huge amount of overwhelming sepsis is wrong because it’s not based on premature babies. To me that just goes to show that it’s extremely unlikely to happen to prem babies and considering they’re almost always hooked up to the sort of equipment that could potentially cause it then I think he should have seen more of it? Again feel like I’m never making any sense!
The expert said the amount of air he seen at the spine was very unusual and would have to be introduced with force so is not indicative of longline placement errors.
But it is an anonymous forum where people discuss stuff, think you might be taking it all a bit seriously to be honest. Surely people don't just have to discuss things present as evidence in court, the post isn't exactly claiming anything wild is it, whether its true or false doesn't really matter.I think we should just submit random fb posts by (anonymous) people as evidence in court.
I know, I’ll find somewhere to post anonymously, oh like here, and write the complete opposite and present it to the prosecution. That would be the case sealed then.
Yes, I am being a sarcastic c**t.
I agree, I’m very angry with him that he didn’t do more, but at least he did try - it was the senior management who didn’t take action and they need to be held accountable for this. It must be a terrible thing to live with and sounds like he’s trying to do the right thing now, even though it’s very late in the day!
This ...!! This is one of my biggest questions....like so many, I am "on that fence" right now....but what are the odds of events like this happening to twin/triplet siblings in a short period of time " like this" I'm a nurse of many years but an adult nurse, so a lot of medical stuff I'm working hard to get my head around....but, as I say, I.keep coming back to what are the odds of this happening in such a way....it baffles me!! As in...with no sinister reason about the occurrences!!
It is. It’s your body’s adverse response to an untreated infection. I developed it when I was in labour with my son. I didn’t know what it was until I read my notes afterwards and the obstetrician called me in for an appointment post partum to discuss it. I just remember feeling like I was going to die and my temp and heart rate were through the roof.
A criminal case? I thought we had two staff members anonymous now (I might be wrong). I just assumed it might be a request that was granted or because they may still work at COCH.
I'm not defending her but is it possible that she's on valium or some other sedative throughout this trial?? I am sincerely asking this btw, is it possible?
Can I ask, why does what Lucy didn’t do mean she is somehow more likely to be innocent for the things she is alleged to have done? The point of the investigation into the charges she is up for is that they are unexplained and have evidence of foul play. I’m not sure why explained events that don’t show foul play or her lack of presence mean she wasn’t capable of the things she’s accused of
Whether there was an explained death, or a death whilst BA wasn’t at Grantham hospital didn’t mean she wasn’t guilty of what she did do and I’m not sure why it would here either. It’s proven LL is there for all of these unexplained events where there is evidence of foul play.
you rude bitches, see how you like it