Legit. If she is guilty, why do people think she'd give a fuck about reducing the families pain? She would have already murdered their babies, you can't get worse than that. I think we can all say with 100% in that scenario, she isn't someone who gives a shit about empathy or she wouldn't have killed their children.
I personally think the latter - shocker ha! I think @Tofino pointed out two sets of babies from multiples died in the same way, one with air one with insulin in two separate sets of multiples. Now we might not like statistics alone but fucking hell the chances of that not being a deliberate act are so so so tiny. I don’t think that’s opinion I think that would be statistically fact- it’s extremely extremely unlikely isn’t it. My opinion is that as each babies case is heard it will be overwhelmingly difficult to explain the similarities, coincidences and chances that this could all happen without intent. xThe fact that so many of the deaths were twins/triplets kind of makes me think its less coincidence too. Like if those babies shared non detected health concerns with their sibling, it would make sense for them to both be unwell. I feel the 'it's just too many to be innocent' would carry more weight if it were non related babies, but that's just me.
Or maybe she thought people would explain away the deaths due to them being twins
Exactly. I don’t see any real relevance in her pleading not guilty. We’re just speculating on the reasons.
) I’ve personally found no relevance in her “sweet pretty” appearance, I think being pretty does actually fit being a serial killer, it’s the old hiding in plain site thing that is very common and something she’d have to do, obviously serial killers have no choice in how they look, and that’s why I think it’s pretty irrelevant to me, also in my experience with women I’ve actually found the pretty ones tend to be batshit crazy lol. For me personally she’s not that attractive but she’s not ugly either, she’s very ‘plain’ imo (I myself am no oil painting)They cost a fortune! We would avoid agency unless we were on our knees, we would sometimes rather work on reduced staff than use agency. We've had some agency staff who barely spoke a word of English which is so dangerous on a mental health ward because they couldn't interact with the patients at all. Also I had to send an agency support worker home because he fell asleep on eyesight obs while a kid had a ligature round their neck! So lack of agency doesn't equal decent staffing, sometimes it's just more bloody work.
He had suspicions but no evidence though, he'd be the one removed from the ward perhaps even his post if he did that. Have seen it a few times myself, people raise concerns about x and they're not taken seriously, they are dismissed as being bullies, and the person who reported is driven out. Its a big, big, big problem in many settings and part of the reason people leave in droves- I left myself because I tried to fight the system and make it better and safer for patients and colleagues but its impossible to be honest. I have no idea of course what the culture was like there or how often and to who he reported, but it sounds like he is the same doctor who pushed for her to move shifts so assuming he didn't just say alright I won't bother. Especially given his level at the time for it to get anywhere it would have relied on support from his superiors which it seems he didn't have. Sad all round.
Yes, both the other medical experts Dr Dewey and Dr Bohin confirmed it/
I would just say if I’m allowed to share my opinion - this is the worst thing you could ever have to admit and in a court of law, in front of the babies parents. I should have done more. Absolutely anything would be preferable to this, any mistakes, any failings, staff shortages. Any idea that the docs are working with each other to remember mottling retrospectively to fit LL for things or because they’ve been influenced to think so is just absolutely blown out the water for me personally. They’re saying we knew something was odd, we knew things were unusual, we weren’t listened to but we should have done more. Heartbreaking all round!
Yeah Slingo was saying him raising concerns wasn’t plausible, and asked me where I thought him raising concerns would fit in the timeline.
Even that's a horrific thought. Imagine being her parents now. I can't even begin to think what they must be going through. Do they truly believe she's innocent? Who really knows.
Me too, I’m keen to hear more about her background, childhood and most importantly her psychiatric reports tbh.
