Lucy Letby Case #74

[Ghostranch]

Why, why, why were they more concerned about pandering to Letby and avoiding a potential employment claim than they were about what was happening to those babies? It makes no sense. All the fuss about her welfare and ensuring she was okay boils my blood.

 

[AllieBee]

What are the statistical chances of this being complete bollocks?

100% I should say!

 

[Ghostranch]

Completely agree that some of the strongest evidence came from Baby E's case. And it's really telling that Baby E is rarely mentioned in the many articles banging on about unsafe convictions. I've read some vile comments on X about the mother lying.

 

[Aberscot]

Poor child’s E mother blaming herself for not requesting a post morton thinking she might have stopped her then.

Inquiry chairwoman Lady Justice Thirlwall told her: “You have absolutely nothing to feel guilty about, nothing. You have nothing to blame yourself for, nothing at all.

 

[mousse]

The conspiracy theories aren't coming from "quasi journalists" and "true crime dilettantes", they are coming from "experts" and "journalists".

I don’t care what they call themselves- if they have genuine new evidence which is going to overturn the verdict they should provide it to the defence. Otherwise they should shut the fuck up and refrain from adding to the torment those families have already been through. Those babies weren’t statistics they were children and their families deserve better than idle speculation from people who haven’t taken the opportunity to look at the whole picture.

Anyway, rant over and I shall go back to lurking.

 

[helcob1977]

The news coverage of this is embarassing clickbait journalism. Why let facts get in the way of hitting their monthly ad revenue target? It's depressing that the likes of the Guardian are getting in on the act. My friend implicity trusts the Guardian and keeps texting me their articles going "are you sure she's not innocent?" and I reply with a 5 page essay of why I'm sure

 

[Tofino]

Miscarriages of justice are incredibly rare - I think 80 odd in the last 15 years before the Post Office - and for murder even rarer - and for multiple murder (not counting terrorist bombings) more or less unheard of.

yeah, but, LuCiA dE bErK

 

[O'lee]

She visited the unit UNSUPERVISED in Feb 2017 !!!

 

[ImDavidBrent]

Here we go again, Channel 5 doing *another* Letby innocence fraud documentary, and look which crank they are using as a source !!!

I’m sorry but how frigging dare they! Especially during the Thirlwall enquiry.
shes guilty as sin you absolute idiotic scum who say otherwise.
I’m just so fed up of these people being given airtime/articles etc.

 

[Marcolf]

Just saying thank you to the people here doing all your research and analysis. I found these threads back at the 'Wrong Fella Della' point and they've really brought all the evidence together for me.

I'm not surprised at the obsessive band of fans and social media amplifying them but I'm more annoyed at the trad media giving them house room and Hitchens et al jumping on - clearly imagining they are going to be prophets in some Birmingham Six type scenario.

But I am SO glad to see this enquiry and I hope it's the start to calling some of these dreadful incompetents to account. I've been in meetings with managers like that - with their phoney BeKind viciousness and their f***ing lanyards. Cowards.

 

[sebanna]

Bit more in the Chester standard. Baby C’s mum sounds like a true warrior.

Thirlwall inquiry: Child C mother 'betrayed' by Countess of Chester Hospital managers

The mother of a baby son murdered by Lucy Letby has said she felt "betrayed on every level" at being "misled" by a…

www.chesterstandard.co.uk

They only let her read the full report on son's death in 2023, after the trial had started

 

[Wellthisisinteresting]

Letby is going try and appeal her conviction for the attempted murder of baby K. Judges will consider the case at a hearing on 24th October.

Child serial killer Lucy Letby to bring further conviction appeal bid next month

Judges will consider the case at a hearing on October 24, according to court listings.

www.independent.co.uk

GOD can’t this Cunt just piss off a die once and for all!

 

[MmmB777]

Do you think Doctor U, is Dr Noname or did she befriend another doctor?
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I'm sure she's killed far more than she's been charged with. The death rate was through the roof during that period of time. How Richard Gill thinks, amending the chart to add more deaths for Lucy, makes her look innocent, I don't know.

Yep that’s definitely Noname. Jesus that’s a lot of messages. How many were while supposed to be working

so by March 2016 Breary has added the sudden unexplained deteriorations to the chart and Letby is obviously there for all of those. “We still need to talk about Lucy” that could be the dramatisation title right there

 

[Hazara04]

This is probably the effect he has on all women tbf. I can smell his tweets - stale piss, meds and rotten onions.
Nah I’m actually filing this under things that absolutely never fucking happened. Big stinky weirdo liar.

If some creepy unwashed bloke started to talk to me about serial killers in a pub I would run a mile too.

 

[MmmB777]

Im behind and only up to the period immediately after the triplets death, she’s reading the consultants emails to each other. One says something along the lines of “we are currently all under suspicion. We need external help to look at all of us, our lives outside of the hospital, to shed light on this”
And he was right because there was somebody with all the incriminating evidence stuffed in bags under her bed!!! That had been searching the parents in groups. In the middle of the night. When the parents were still there for other children. Somebody that had sifted through a bin to take home and keep a blue towel used to record the 30 minute resus of child M.

 

[MavisBeacon]

Bundling everything under "The Unit" obfuscates where the decisions (and therefore blame) really lies, as it smooshes together the actions of the nurses, doctors, admin staff, management, board etc in response to a truly horrific but extremely rare situation. Letby got away with harming and killing far too many babies. The appropriate processes were not in place at many levels, from the NNU itself and the labs all the way up to the top to identify and escalate the unexplained deaths, and there seems to have been a reluctance among many people who could have done something to look too hard or risk negative publicity.

Hopefully the inquiry will tease out whether the situation at CoCH NNU was unusually shambolic/poorly run, which allowed Letby to get away with her crimes for so long, or whether it was similar to any other NNU in the country, with the only difference being they don't have serial killers at work. Either way, I hope that there is a decent set of recommendations that enables any other similar healthcare killers to be rapidly identified and stopped.
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PS Fuck Phil Hammond - does he not understand what 'unexpected and unexplained deaths' means?? The babies who went to trial were stable and doing well, considering their state. That's why she didn't get pinned with every single collapse and death on the ward while she was there. Jesus effing Christ he is really annoying me.

 

[MmmB777]

i just have total disbelief still that a baby like Baby D, essentially full term, with no sign of infection in her bloods, no overwhelming infection that could have killed her let alone as rapidly as that.. could have ever been signed off as dying from infection?? No wonder the consultants refused to let this go and said that the clinical pictures were not adding up. It’s unbelievable they weren’t listened to.

 

[AllieBee]

Thank god it’s a statutory inquiry. Madness to think it nearly wasn’t. Most of these people would have refused to be involved if they thought they could!

I think it will shake up management teams across the whole NHS especially if prosecutions follow.

 

[Ghostranch]

It must also be infuriating for the members of the juries, particularly the first jury who sat and listened and deliberated for 10 months which must have been stressful given the nature of the crimes, to now hear all this from idiots who clearly know very little about the case.

It is just utterly disrespectful to them, isn't it? They gave up so much of their lives, had to listen to harrowing details and quite clearly considered all the evidence carefully. I feel so bad for them that they can't speak out about how they reached their decisions.

 

[AllieBee]

Oh yes I saw some of these a few days ago but not his most recent ones. This is more than just conspiracy theory. He’s utterly vile and he’s exactly why the families need to remain anonymous.

He's disgusting. A total creep. Karma will come to him
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It well established that the Police took statements from certain parties, including parents, before Letby was named specifically to avoid the possibility of the defence crying "foul".
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I haven't been here for some time but the lack of understanding, in particular by X users, about the police and legal process and hoops they have to jump though not to compromise evidence is frustrating. The sheer volume of false assumptions and accusations of wrong doing that are so basic, the evidence would have been inadmissible, is scary. Most just make it up as they go along as it feeds into their fantasies of an "us and them" society where they are the downtrodden intellectuals fighting the good fight against the v some organised evil that rules them. It doesn't fit the narrative that some of the cruellest evil walks amongst us and wears many disguises, often posing as the most caring and altruistic and smiles and nods at the right times.
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I'll also place a wager that he will read this and be unable to resist posting about it on X and doubling down on his efforts or making some unpleasant remark about me, rather than reflecting on the foolishness of this particular crusade..

He will. He spends most of his life reading on tattle hoping to see a post about him. Sad little pervert. See he was rooting for that vile Huw Edwards to be let off as well. Tells me all I need to know about him, definitely needs his hard drive checking