Lucy Letby Case #7

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To me the messages come across as people who don't like her, don't want to engage and are giving her the shortest answers out of politeness but to get her to stop. We all have people like that who don't get the memo. I don't see why there is such an issue of debating in this thread without having to agree with eachother and shut the convo down. Surely it's better to agree we have different opinions and discuss them, bouncing things back and forward than this constant need to silence any discussion? I don't get it.
Just picturing her colleagues say it’s a mum trying to make tea and look after her kids tired after work and Lucy’s texting non stop you would definitely be trying to get her to get the hint . Especially in such a full on job .
 
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It involved her parents doorstep, I'll let you fill in the gaps lol. 👀👀👀
Ok let me get back up your a. Let’s be mates. 😂. My mum strangled a social worker with a pair of trousers, I was born to a unmarried woman in Belfast. That was enough for social services to get involved back then
 
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Hi guys, working today and my friends and family have all had babies in Arrowe park hossie, finding it hard with it being so close to home today but will enjoy your thoughts!
I just wanted to say though, I've worked with 100s of nurses, dated a few as well and their sense of humour proper dark, nothing is off limits when it comes to this job. As others have said, coping mechanism.
A girl I was seeing was really attached to an elderly patient who would sing "seasons in the sun" on repeat, he died in a sad event and she was devastated at home, at work first thing she said was, "well at least no more seasons in the bleeping sun".
Just my input for today x
 
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At the time they wouldn’t have known the cause of death?
I think at the time the first death was unascertained and the other two were thought to be due to infection/pneumonia? So not all the same and they presented quite differently too.
 
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Ok let me get back up your a. Let’s be mates. 😂. My mum strangled a social worker with a pair of trousers, I was born to a unmarried woman in Belfast. That was enough for social services to get involved back then
Haha! She's even more fiesty with it then me! 😂😂 this is proper funny my new tattle bestie 😂😂😂😂😂
 
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Just picturing her colleagues say it’s a mum trying to make tea and look after her kids tired after work and Lucy’s texting non stop you would definitely be trying to get her to get the hint . Especially in such a full on job .
It all just raises so many questions doesn't it. Did she have friends, was she lonely, obsessed with her job, were the other nurses unkind because they found her unsettling? Most of which I doubt we'll ever know. However it turns out its devastating, we either have a young woman murdering babies or a young women whose life has been ruined.
 
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Were they all just really really tit at doing post mortems? I just don't get how, if this was all her, it could possibly have continued for so long with current health care standards and practices.
 
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This message raises questions...

On June 30, following the deaths of Child A, C and D, and the non-fatal collapse of Child B, Letby's colleague messaged her there was something 'odd' about that night (colleague is referring to the night Child A died).

Letby replies: 'What do you mean? Odd that we lost three and in different cicrumstances?'

Letby's colleague responds: "I don't know, were they that different?"

The collague added: "Ignore me, I'm speculating."


Firstly - 'something odd about that night'. Something clearly didn't sit well with her colleague from the 'get go'. If Child A is (currently) the first child and that felt odd...how did we get to 22 charges?

Secondly - What was her colleague speculating? Was she suspicious of LL and if so, why is she having that conversation with her.

Thirdly - When the colleague is discussing 'that night' (being the night Child A died) LL responds refering to the 3 babies, who all died under different circumstances.
It's almost like LL is trying to 'normalise' the deaths by saying, 'they all died with different things', so it can't be anything 'odd'.
 
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It all just raises so many questions doesn't it. Did she have friends, was she lonely, obsessed with her job, were the other nurses unkind because they found her unsettling? Most of which I doubt we'll ever know. However it turns out its devastating, we either have a young woman murdering babies or a young women whose life has been ruined.
We have loads of staff with ASD on my unit it's beneficial as we can usually see the bigger picture and more intricate details but can become obsessive. I get the feeling she was assumed as odd , she would have had full psych reports so it will come out.
 
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At the time they wouldn’t have known the cause of death?
But Lucy would have, sorry just thought your message before about Lucy dropping herself in it knowing it was all different ways would of been an excellent point, so went and had a check.

I mean she could of been trying to convince whoever she was texting, that they were all different to cover herself?
Either way, her colleague didn't seem convinced about them being different
 
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I’m not saying there’s an issue with it. Just that she’s in work texting or going straight home and texting about work and searching parents. It’s a bit obsessive.
I don’t give a tit what anybody says on here .. I used to finish my 13 hour shift go home have a bath and speak to my family and friends I didn’t need to constantly be texting work colleagues and searching patient’s familys up on social media . I would never dream to take a picture of a sympathy card . I know others have said they have done a little search of families at work but Lucy was literaly stalking the families. After each victim died she was looking the family up and not just once but multiple times . The strange thing is on one occasion she searched a childs mum up and went on to search for the previous three babies that died in her care . To many things are not normal with her behaviour . I think she is guilty and I hope they have better evidence coming Soon .
 
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This is the part of trials that I always find really interesting (and frustrating too). The prosecutions job is literally to package everything up in a nice parcel and present it in a way that seems to mean no other option could explain the circumstances. That's why they're prosecutors - of course everything will be delivered in a way to 'make sense'. The defence stance will be completely different and may open up more questions or be able to see things from a different angle.

Either way it's so emotional and I usually find Tattle trial threads really engaging and interesting to be involved in, and I hope over such a long time frame as this one it can be amicable and respectful :)
 
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"It's the last time I do you a favour changing shifts! Haha"

Hours after Child A died.

But apparently very traumatised.

Just very weird.
Haha !! After a baby has died... she a bloody nut job regardless of anything else ( I do think absolutely guilty also just for the record )
 
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It all just raises so many questions doesn't it. Did she have friends, was she lonely, obsessed with her job, were the other nurses unkind because they found her unsettling? Most of which I doubt we'll ever know. However it turns out its devastating, we either have a young woman murdering babies or a young women whose life has been ruined.
This has to be covered in the trial at some point because we actually don't know much about her other than she was a nurse? surely character is key here. Hopefully they'll go into her private life, friends, family, background, friends from uni. I've seen pics of her socializing at uni but that doesn't say a lot, loads of people go out at uni and don't necessarily have a friend group or are well liked and sociable. Right now she's coming across as a bit of a loner/loser
 
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It all just raises so many questions doesn't it. Did she have friends, was she lonely, obsessed with her job, were the other nurses unkind because they found her unsettling? Most of which I doubt we'll ever know. However it turns out its devastating, we either have a young woman murdering babies or a young women whose life has been ruined.
I know she’s either someone to be pitied or despised I just can’t work out how it’s going to go now
 
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I remember yrs ago a neighbour made a malicious report to social services about me. The SW who came out was 21. Found her on twitter witching about 'difficult clients' aka me. The cheek.
Hope you filed a complaint!
 
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Regarding Facebook this is what we know so far:

Child A died 8.58pm on 8th June

June 9th 9.58am - 13hrs after the baby died Lucy looks up mum on Facebook.

Please can somebody give me a reasonable explanation for why she would do this? Baby B was still in hospital. Mum was either still in hospital or visiting baby from 9am every day. Why would she need to check up on them on Facebook? What was she looking for?

also these dates:
June 10th
June 25th
Sept 2nd

Yet in police interview she says she has no memory of doing so. I mean, REALLY??

In a November 2020 police interview, police put to her that Letby had tracked the family of Child A on Facebook. She said she had no memory of doing so but accepted it if there was evidence on her computer doing so.

You’ve looked them up four times after the baby died, including 3 months later so you still remembered the name, you were telling colleagues you were affected by the death so much you wanted to actively avoid the parents, but you have no memory of ever looking them up? Not even an ‘oh yes I do remember now, it was because xxx’

It’s just not in the slightest bit credible. It makes me so suspicious of her.
 
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Regarding Facebook this is what we know so far:

Child A died 8.58pm on 8th June

June 9th 9.58am - 13hrs after the baby died Lucy looks up mum on Facebook.

Please can somebody give me a reasonable explanation for why she would do this? Baby B was still in hospital. Mum was either still in hospital or visiting baby from 9am every day. Why would she need to check up on them on Facebook? What was she looking for?

also these dates:
June 10th
June 25th
Sept 2nd

Yet in police interview she says she has no memory of doing so. I mean, REALLY??

In a November 2020 police interview, police put to her that Letby had tracked the family of Child A on Facebook. She said she had no memory of doing so but accepted it if there was evidence on her computer doing so.

You’ve looked them up four times after the baby died, including 3 months later so you still remembered the name, you were telling colleagues you were affected by the death so much you wanted to actively avoid the parents, but you have no memory of ever looking them up? Not even an ‘oh yes I do remember now, it was because xxx’

It’s just not in the slightest bit credible. It makes me so suspicious of her.
Stupid thing is even if she'd just made something up like it had really upset her and she was hoping to see the family were coping ok, it would have made her less suss than denial.
 
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Regarding Facebook this is what we know so far:

Child A died 8.58pm on 8th June

June 9th 9.58am - 13hrs after the baby died Lucy looks up mum on Facebook.

Please can somebody give me a reasonable explanation for why she would do this? Baby B was still in hospital. Mum was either still in hospital or visiting baby from 9am every day. Why would she need to check up on them on Facebook? What was she looking for?

also these dates:
June 10th
June 25th
Sept 2nd

Yet in police interview she says she has no memory of doing so. I mean, REALLY??

In a November 2020 police interview, police put to her that Letby had tracked the family of Child A on Facebook. She said she had no memory of doing so but accepted it if there was evidence on her computer doing so.

You’ve looked them up four times after the baby died, including 3 months later so you still remembered the name, you were telling colleagues you were affected by the death so much you wanted to actively avoid the parents, but you have no memory of ever looking them up? Not even an ‘oh yes I do remember now, it was because xxx’

It’s just not in the slightest bit credible. It makes me so suspicious of her.
Not saying its reasonable,

but most people will put up a goodbye post for a funeral and we don't know when Child B was discharged from the hospital (unless I've missed it somewhere)
 
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