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So any registered nurse can hold the drug keys and it's been like that for the 14 years I've been nursing.
All the wards I've worked on have been the same. We have one set of keys and any nurse can hold them. We pass them around as and when we need to access meds.
Doctors and nursing assistants cannot hold the keys or access the medicines.
Pharmacy do a stock check twice per week and anything out of the ordinary is flagged up.

Controlled drugs is always a 2 nurse job to get them out and administer them and sign for them. You need 2 sets of keys for controlled drugs.

I work on nicu and we were single nurse check for all medicines except controlled drugs. This changed about 3 months ago off the back of Lucifer and now everything is 2 nurse checked except for benign things like multivitamins. However it still remains that any nurse at any time can ask for the keys and access medicines without question.
In your expert opinion do you think now they are being too safe-concious or that it should always have been this way?
 
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In your expert opinion do you think now they are being too safe-concious or that it should always have been this way?
It should have always been this way, especially on neonates and paeds because the doses are so small and it's easy to make a mistake. There's probably lots of missed drug errors when we single nurse checked.
It's a pain in the neck but pretty much everyone agrees it's the best thing to do.
 
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The fifty-something incel is in a huff because the prison authorities aren't letting his fellow nutters write to Lucifer
 
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The fifty-something incel is in a huff because the prison authorities aren't letting his fellow nutters write to Lucifer
I just watched this too. He thinks the defence are blocking Lucifer from seeing that there are ‘so many’ people on her side… No I think the defence just think Science on Trial are all a bunch of nutters & they, Lucifer & her parents don’t want to be associated with such idiots. One of Mark’s ‘fans’ even said it’s because the defence are planning an appeal & can’t be seen to take advice from social media… I don’t think so you bunch of deludes!!
 
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It should have always been this way, especially on neonates and paeds because the doses are so small and it's easy to make a mistake. There's probably lots of missed drug errors when we single nurse checked.
It's a pain in the neck but pretty much everyone agrees it's the best thing to do.
It’s been double nurse check for a long time on peads, but I didn’t know it had changed for adults. Is that across the board or just ITU?
 
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It’s been double nurse check for a long time on peads, but I didn’t know it had changed for adults. Is that across the board or just ITU?
Long time lurker here 👋🏻
I’m an RN adult trained and we have always double signed for controlled and intravenous drugs plus insulin and certain subcutaneous/intramuscular drugs. Oral medications do not require witnessing but we are expected to do due diligence with right time, right route, right drug and right patient. This is the policy where I work however it may differ!
 
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It’s been double nurse check for a long time on peads, but I didn’t know it had changed for adults. Is that across the board or just ITU?
I don't know what they do on adults, I'm on neonates. I was on paeds until 2021 and it was single check. It varies between Trusts.
 
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I don't know what they do on adults, I'm on neonates. I was on paeds until 2021 and it was single check. It varies between Trusts.
Sorry, I got the wrong end of the stick there.
Must be different in different areas then.
 
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So what, is Ben not supposed to have a life just because these simps don’t?
 
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This is the kind of utterly despicable comments being made on the public Nurse Lucy Letby Group fb site.
Just took a look at that page. That Chris is a complete weirdo along with all the rest of the Lucy stans. He says Hummingbird is closed and people have been telling him its not and is still active. He doesn't believe them. He says proper people don't Google they go on the BBC instead, Judith Moritz thinks Letby is innocent, anyone who disagrees with him is a troll, and also that anyone who disagrees with him must have been on the jury and therefore its a mistrial. I honestly cba to argue with him but it shows the level of intelligence of the guilt deniers is very very low. Not sure what they think they are gonna achieve, I doubt Letby is even going to appeal and they have no say over that!
 
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I just watched this too. He thinks the defence are blocking Lucifer from seeing that there are ‘so many’ people on her side… No I think the defence just think Science on Trial are all a bunch of nutters & they, Lucifer & her parents don’t want to be associated with such idiots. One of Mark’s ‘fans’ even said it’s because the defence are planning an appeal & can’t be seen to take advice from social media… I don’t think so you bunch of deludes!!
Spot on. I forced myself to watch that swank, forced myself to stop imagining the disgustingness of his smell, ignore all the tics and the beard stroking and the scratching. But what I got from it was that because the prison are rejecting communications from a bunch of cranks they are somehow corrupt? They have a duty of care to Letby.
 
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Just took a look at that page. That Chris is a complete weirdo along with all the rest of the Lucy stans. He says Hummingbird is closed and people have been telling him its not and is still active. He doesn't believe them. He says proper people don't Google they go on the BBC instead, Judith Moritz thinks Letby is innocent, anyone who disagrees with him is a troll, and also that anyone who disagrees with him must have been on the jury and therefore its a mistrial. I honestly cba to argue with him but it shows the level of intelligence of the guilt deniers is very very low. Not sure what they think they are gonna achieve, I doubt Letby is even going to appeal and they have no say over that!
He is a nasty piece of work. Also the part where he gleefully imagines the bereaved families being stripped of compensation.
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Spot on. I forced myself to watch that swank, forced myself to stop imagining the disgustingness of his smell, ignore all the tics and the beard stroking and the scratching. But what I got from it was that because the prison are rejecting communications from a bunch of cranks they are somehow corrupt? They have a duty of care to Letby.
They probably also don't want to wade through the death threats and hate mail which will greatly exceed any letters of support.
 
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