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I’mThankyou_

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No wonder they look shell shocked cos they know they played a part in this tradegy. And no doubt will be named in the compensation claims!!!
The only part they played was trying to stop this evil monster.
They were forced to apologise because they knew what came with being reported to the GMC, and they did so knowing if they folded, they could keep an eye on Letby and continue to push until someone listened and took action.

They will live with that guilt for the rest of their lives and no doubt it eats them up every night, but no, they played NO part.

They too are victims in Letbys sick game.

Edit to add, they had nothing to hide and it's ridiculous to speculate such a thing IMO. They took an oath and they stayed committed to that oath.
 
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Calmyourtitsdown

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Sharing again as thread closed, interview with Dr Ravi for anyone who hasn’t seen it. Quite detailed on the grievance compared to other interviews I’ve watched regarding the matter. Utterly heartbreaking what he states at the end 😞
Utterly shocking. Dr Jayaram in particular, has suffered a lot of ‘bad press’ over the course of this trial. Being mocked for being a ‘TV doctor’, looking for ‘fame’ & ‘clout’. But you can see the distress in this interview, just like Dr Brearery in the Panorama last night.

Tony Chambers should be behind bars 😠 Absolutely disgusting the way he threatened those consultants.

This just shows that the past 10 months, have been the top of the ice berg with this case.

As an employee of the NHS, I’m feeling very deflated. Especially as my own trust is currently being investigated by police, over some deaths and whistleblowing 😞
 
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slidders

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You know what bothers me now is you don't just go from nice nurse Lucy to murdering babies.

The review of all the babies she has been involved in will be major I think but how many babies has she been cruel to over the years that havnt ended in the collapse or death of a baby? Maybe a nip or some other deliberate act that has caused pain and discomfort that they will never be able to prove.

I refuse to believe she just started harming babies from nowhere.
I am firmly of the belief that she has a reason for every single one of those 250 odd medical notes found at her home. They may not all have resulted in murder, but she had them for a reason, it wasn’t just the case of some were brought home by accident and some on purpose as a trophy.
The one I find most sinister is the pristine one in the box from her first ever shift. So fucking weird.
 
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AmeliaPevensie

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Did anyone else think that Dr B and Dr J have done public interviews to protect themselves? To distance themselves? Yes we knew, yes we tried to intervene but we weren’t believed, it’s not our fault, we’re the good guys?

I just get a funny feeling about it.
But they did do everything they could. They refused to have her back once they'd finally managed to get her off the ward. They are the good guys. Now they are, quite rightly, exposing the fuck ups that led to her being able to murder for as long as she did. They are devastated. Good for them doing interviews to get the full truth out there!
 
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Treesy19

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Dawn on Panorama, I am not sure why the fuck she is on this deluded. Just because you hung out with Lucifer and went to school with her means absolutely nothing. Zilch. Given that serial killers can hide everywhere and hide their crimes from their own bloody spouses, it will have been easy for Lucy to not drop clues. The Dawns of this world are really bloody stupid.
“She’s the kindest person I’ve ever known” Jesus woman, dread to imagine the lesser kind people you are referring to in your life.
 
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AmeliaPevensie

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Those consultants were forced to write her a letter of APOLOGY, and threatened with referral to the GMC if they didn't. Fuck, if that was me I'd be doing more than interviews.
 
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DellaC

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I'm signing off for today. Hope you have a good night's sleep. Try and switch off from all this if you can. Easier said than done I know ❤

Nanight shitheads 😘
 
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Tobyonek

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In today’s Daily Telegraph about Dr NoName…
The article is discussing why various of the staff involved wanted to give evidence anonymously and this is what it said about him.
 

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DellaC

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I don't suppose any Australians have had any success being able to watch the BBC panorama piece?
Can you not use a VPN and watch it via BBCiPlayer?

Sorry if that's a ridiculous statement...I don't even know what a pissin VPN is but I've heard it mentioned in relation to this type of thing 😂😂
 
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F1Grid

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I’m gonna go off what the person I knew was like during school

She’d constantly have a drama, whether it be boys, family, mental health, anything. There was ALWAYS something. Very self absorbed but slyly, she too presented herself as vulnerable, sweet and kind. Gentle and quiet. The only ones who knew what a vindictive cunt she was were the people closest to her, and even then that took a while. Narcs like these brainwash you. It’s scary
Bet you anything Lucy pretended to have a panic attack and faint when she had her vaccines in school.
 
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Mardymermaid

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Im finding the comments on Facebook about how letby had her whole life ahead of her so tone deaf and ignorant to the suffering of the families. I don't care if she had her whole life ahead of her, I care that the victims got to live very little of theirs because of her. I don't care about the fact she's messed up her own future. Im furious she's taken theirs.
 
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ravenhood

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You could see how much it’s affected Dr Breary on panorama last night. He looked like a broken man to me tbh and someone wanting change. Not like someone out to save themselves. I cried listening to him
 
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Did anyone else think that Dr B and Dr J have done public interviews to protect themselves? To distance themselves? Yes we knew, yes we tried to intervene but we weren’t believed, it’s not our fault, we’re the good guys?

I just get a funny feeling about it.
No I personally think they have been silenced for SO LONG, unable to tell their story, been accused of involment, huge coverups and they can finally tell their story. I don’t see anything funny behind it at all personally x
 
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veevee04

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Dawn on Panorama, I am not sure why the fuck she is on this deluded. Just because you hung out with Lucifer and went to school with her means absolutely nothing. Zilch. Given that serial killers can hide everywhere and hide their crimes from their own bloody spouses, it will have been easy for Lucy to not drop clues. The Dawns of this world are really bloody stupid.
“She’s the kindest person I’ve ever known” Jesus woman, dread to imagine the lesser kind people you are referring to in your life.
Her loved ones are victims of her. She's fooled them. The fact they are willing to go on tv with no identity blurring shows how much shes able to manipulate them , her family her loved ones who if she had one shred of empathy would be insisting they not go on tv as they would be subject to a braying mob. She's held this side of her in for a very very very long time , this is her public image, no one knows the other side of her. The only time she feels comfortable showing it is when they cant defend themselves. There's a few glimpses at motive when Dr J said how Lucy would only go back to work when she had a personal apology and said you will work with me.

Who the fuck would want to work with people who think you are capable of murder? It's bizarre.

She's bloody clever, she enjoys manipulating things and watching the consequences. worst thing is she feels nothing even for her family and closest friends. I don't even think she wanted to kill or even harm, it wasn't about the babies it was causing maximum chaos for her own amusement and getting away with it. Even making the big consultants apologise to her and the ceo kiss her feet, all power and control. The babies were iust collateral damage for her. They had no meaning to her , just pawns in her game to cause drama. It's sick.

If she had one shred of anything in her she would tell her family / friends the truth insist they don't speak on tv for her.
She cares not for anyone even her own blood.
 
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LilyRose1234

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Not sure if this has been said but I feel quite uncomfortable with some of the reporting about her health problems and potential issues conceiving as a motive. Plenty of women are unable to have children, I think it’s quite offensive to suggest it’s a reason why she murdered small babies. She did it because she is evil, and a psychopath, and maybe for her being unable to conceive was a trigger, but to be honest if you’re inclined to kill babies, anything could be a trigger.
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Also thinking on the sentencing, defendants don’t have to attend their trial and can be tried in their absence - there’s plenty of procedure to follow etc but it is possible provided the court is satisfied the trial will still be fair etc. Not sure how, practically speaking, given they don’t have to attend their trial at all, you could then compel them to attend sentencing (although they definitely should have to hear the damage, hurt and pain caused!). Realistically though I’m not sure it can easily happen - there’s a saying that hard cases make bad law, which is basically that knee jerk legislative changes following difficult cases are usually inadequate and ill thought out.
Lastly, I hope she doesn’t try anddo anything silly, firstly she needs to sit and think about what she’s done every single day (regardless of taxpayer cost etc), and secondly they’re investigating thousands of other babies - if there are more, their parents will likely never know
 
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RosieSparkle

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Something I found interesting about the letter of apology is that in no part did it retract their concerns or accusations. It apologised for distressed caused, but it didn't say we were wrong. Maybe that's the only reason they signed it.
 
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CELESTE CROCKETT

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I started my nurse training in 1988 before the reorganisation and Trusts created
We had old school matrons
In 1991 that all changed

Managers of hospitals should never be NON CLINICAL. NEVER. Thats been a huge error.

I left nursing in 2017 aged 48. My last managers were an ex prison officer & an ex WHSmith manager. How could they possibly grasp clinical conditions, problems and protocol. I was sick of it.
 
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