Also if JG is possibly willing to let jurors have these appointments next week if they can’t be rearranged, he’s defo not going to stop you attending your wedding which you’ve likely had booked for months, possibly years!
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Are the jury present during sentencing?
Totally agree! I know we don’t know the facts about the delays with the jury but I’m finding it so frustrating now so I can’t even imagine how the families must feel. I felt sorry for the jury as it’s a long and difficult trial but I’m struggling to have any sympathy for anyone but the parents at this stage.
I definitely think there must be 1 or 2 difficult/stubborn jurors/fence sitters otherwise they would have reached a verdict by now. Although there is a huge amount of charges and evidence most people would have already have the opinion of either G/NG just a few months in so 10 months on must be certain
Does anyone know if the lifetime ban of discussing the trial and deliberations extends to therapy sessions? Like say for example if a juror needed counselling afterwards and wanted to discuss things they were struggling to cope with, could they talk about it in this situation?
Not that the court would ever know but just wondering
Not that the court would ever know but just wondering
They don’t have to be. They can join the public gallery or just go once they’ve been dismissed.
Lots of jurors choose to go back for sentencing but they don't have to. I didn't but I did phone the court to find out the sentence.
I think Boss Man Goss needs to crack the whip. They are the jury on one of the most complex and horrible trials we are ever likely to see. The only thing they should assume is that they are required to show up during sitting hours until the job is done. I’ve no doubt they’ve all made lots of sacrifices big and small up to this point and for that I am sorry. But this is the law and how it works, they need to respect the process. It’s bad luck for them they’ve been selected for this particular trial and lost the best part of a year but the parents (and the accused) have been in this for 7 years. Now on the home stretch and trying to take a week off because someone else has had to drop out? No no no!
Booked themselves on an all inclusive together thinking they'd be off for the week. 
I agree that the jurors must have known one of them needed a week off and presumed there would be another weeks pause. There's no point dismissing a juror though if the others are going to make appointments and not be available. I bet everyone involved in this trial just wants it over with, but at the moment it feels like it will never end.
Was thinking that they've been deliberating 60 odd hours now for 22 charges. That's still less than 3 hours per charge and considering we had days of evidence for each charge and were able to discuss as we went along, under 3 hours doesn't sound that long really.
Just feels like an age to us waiting I guess but with so much circumstantial evidence, I guess there is a lot to discuss.
Sorry if this has already been pointed out. I'm on holiday so only checking in when I can and the kids don't need me for something
Just feels like an age to us waiting I guess but with so much circumstantial evidence, I guess there is a lot to discuss.
Sorry if this has already been pointed out. I'm on holiday so only checking in when I can and the kids don't need me for something
Knew today was going to be spicey.
I think we can stand down for the foreseeable as they are nowhere near are they?
Imagine if they reached a verdict today though after the 12th juror got dismissed yesterday, you would be furious wouldn't you.
I am still trying to be generous to the jury as not a single one of us can know how hard it would be to give up 10 months of your life for a trial that was only expected to last 6 months (I know most of the delays have been due to juror absence) but even I feel frustrated today and really hope they are just been thorough rather than one of them just acting the twit.
I know I would commit fully if I was on this trial because luckily i am in a position where I could give up 10 months of my life. My employer would pay me, my kids don't need childcare, I have no social life, my home life is stable, I have no medical conditions.
Maybe some of these jurors don't have that luxury or maybe did at the start of the trial bit circumstances have changed.
Actually thinking about it I would be divorced by now if I was on the jury as my husband is so ducked off with hearing about Lucy Letby as it is and I am not connected to the trial.
I think we can stand down for the foreseeable as they are nowhere near are they?
Imagine if they reached a verdict today though after the 12th juror got dismissed yesterday, you would be furious wouldn't you.
I am still trying to be generous to the jury as not a single one of us can know how hard it would be to give up 10 months of your life for a trial that was only expected to last 6 months (I know most of the delays have been due to juror absence) but even I feel frustrated today and really hope they are just been thorough rather than one of them just acting the twit.
I know I would commit fully if I was on this trial because luckily i am in a position where I could give up 10 months of my life. My employer would pay me, my kids don't need childcare, I have no social life, my home life is stable, I have no medical conditions.
Maybe some of these jurors don't have that luxury or maybe did at the start of the trial bit circumstances have changed.
Actually thinking about it I would be divorced by now if I was on the jury as my husband is so ducked off with hearing about Lucy Letby as it is and I am not connected to the trial.
All this anger towards the jury these people didn't ask to do it they were summoned. It's been nearly 10 months long , if you are its tit as you can only claim £130 a day past day 10 so you are losing money and career progression combined with emotional stress of it all. So 10 months of loss of earnings , your life is on hold. I'm pretty sure they just want to go home but yeah they have to deliberate have the prosecution proved beyond reasonable doubt she's a serial killer of babies. That's the justice system , it's actually good it's taking so long as obviously the jury are combing through it all as she won't have grounds for appeal.
I have massive respect for the jury I would have got dismissed quickly it only takes a trip to the GP saying you are stressed and anxious from it all. The fact most of have them have stuck out this long slog is something to be applauded.
I have massive respect for the jury I would have got dismissed quickly it only takes a trip to the GP saying you are stressed and anxious from it all. The fact most of have them have stuck out this long slog is something to be applauded.
Shocking but also not too surprising as personally this jury have never really passed the initial vibe check. Just get your tit together and get on with it for the sake of all those poor families!
I’ve missed so much lately as summer holidays and kids have just gotten in the way. I hope everyone is well. It feels so long for a decision 
Is this him acknowledging Letby is a serial killer?
I’m actually glad it’s not gone to a majority yet, because it could have gone very badly if the juror that left was on the G train.
It could have been the difference between taking a majority yesterday would result in a G verdict and taking majority today resulting in no verdict / hung jury. (10:2 vs 9:2)
Hopefully they will come back with a unanimous decision and no one will have to wonder about the dismissed juror.
After 9 months of hearing evidence but not being allowed to talk about it, they're probably still on "so her and Dr Noname did they bang?"
oh I was but only because my son was swimming!! Nothing excitingAnyone else thinking our Queen toffifee is quiet today
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