Hello all, newbie here, but I’ve been following from the outside for months. I’m so glad to finally be in.
I’m not a ginge, and I don’t shop at matalan, I do love a Turkish delight though!
I’ve been really backwards and forewords throughout this trial, I started off NG, then G, then back to NG during the defence opening statements, I was firmly back to G once LL took the stand.
I did have a bit of a wobble last week but I’m still camp G.
The main reason for my wobble was when it came out that DE has been criticised previously on an expert statement, my thought process being, any previous criticism is obviously damning, so why did the prosecution not try and find and an expert that hasn’t been professionally embarrassed or criticised, unless he was their only option, I am skeptical that experts witnesses have been known to result in miscarriages of justice in the past.
Then I’ve also thought, what if she has murdered babies, but not all of them (not that that makes it any better) but the fact she has murdered babies is going to mean she’s going to be convicted of murdering babies when she hasn’t.
Weighing everything up in my mind, I think she’s guilty of all, and unfortunately I think she’s guilty of more, and that the only reason she wasn’t caught earlier is because it was a build up that got worse over time. Obviously we’ll probably never know what’s driven her to it, but I think she only ever joined the nursing profession to target babies, I just can’t comprehend that someone would just one day start doing it out of the blue.
Looking at some of the arguments, she’s a scapegoat, it’s a witch hunt, sub optimal care etc, which I don’t agree with, but I also don’t think everything is black and white, sub optimal care for example can co exist alongside a baby murderer, I really don’t think it’s one or the other. I really don’t think she’s a scapegoat either, although I do think she’s a good reason to shift some blame now, rather than originally.
I really do feel sorry for everyone involved, apart from LL of course, the parents, the babies, the survivors. I worry that the staff at COCH are going to be forgotten about, it’s going to be so hard for them, professionally, to trust their colleagues. Likewise, the parents and then right down to us in the wider public, how do you get that trust back with healthcare professionals. Their are so many affected that a whole life order is really the only sensible option to feel even the slightest sense of justice.
The parents have had this case hanging over them for so many years that I wonder how have they managed to grieve for the babies they’ve lost, and For those that survived, how their lives have been changed forever, at the hands of one evil person.
Just one thing I’m wondering, when the jury go out to deliberate, do you think they’ll start with agreeing on baby A and work from there, or start from the very obvious insulin cases, I’ve never done jury duty So no idea if it has to be done in order of charges. I think she’ll get guilty on all of the jury can start on the insulin cases.
I also have to say, both the prosecution and defence have done brilliant jobs, and I really can’t see any grounds of appeal so BM gets a round of applause from me for that, despite the awful insensitivity on his part,it’s awful that the parents have had to listen to that, but I’m sure the prosecution, and witness care unit will have sensitivity explained this to the parents.
Here’s to a whole life order!
hopefully a WLO is on the way for u lucifer xx
Unless she's one of the ones who haven't been named) I hope MT gives a her a slap and asks her to deliver it to her on her first prison visit....
