11:15am
Mr Johnson refers to Letby's 2019 police interview, in which she said room 2's light was off, and there was 'an element of light coming from the doorway', and Child I was by the window.
Ashleigh Hudson said Child I had a blanket over her, and a 'tent structure' keeping her secure.
She said she could not see Child I due to the canopy and the lighting.
Mr Johnson says Letby did not have a better view.
Ms Hudson said she switched on the light and looked at Child I, who was 'gasping', 'incredibly pale', and in a 'very bad way'.
Ms Hudson initially thought the deterioration was so rapid she thought she was too late to save her.
She said you "cannot see" a child from the position Lucy Letby was in.
Mr Johnson says we have a "head-on credibility conflict", of two accounts who "don't live in the same world".
Mr Johnson says in cross-exmination, Letby was asked about looking from a brightly lit corridor into a dark room would improve her ability to see.
He says her first response was "I don't know".
NJ: "She 'conceded' she would not have been able to see, yet she persisted that she could see [Child I].
NJ: "We had a break, we came back, and I asked Lucy what she had said in interview...
He says Letby had said "Maybe I spotted something Ashleigh couldn't spot."
Mr Johnson had asked Letby: "You don't have better eyesight than Ashleigh, do you?"
LL: "No."
NJ: "The question is, how would you be able to spot the colouring [of Child I better than Ashleigh Hudson from the same point of view]?"
LL: "I had more experience so I knew what I was looking for/at."
Mr Johnson adds: "You will remember the way she corrected herself."
He says there was a very long pause.
He added at the time: "Your answer, you explain it."
He said Letby was "finding it difficult to concentrate on all the dates".
Mr Johnson said there was nothing about the dates in this context.
He says did Letby make an innocent mistake, or did something else slip out, under the pressure of the witness box?
He says Letby caused the problem for Child I. He says Child I recovered well.