It’s tricky isn’t it. Multiples I think are a bit more likely to be born early so it could be that but it also really feels like she was aiming to kill both in sets of twins and then when she manages it with O&P it seems like the ultimate goal for her. Also a lot of boys died. Makes you wonder about the “tiny boy” repetition.
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Follower of the thread and a left-hander with red (fake) hair, here. The only thing that makes me close to being a serial (sic) killer is when I trod on some spilt Rice Krispies. Well, maybe swatted a few flies in my time, too.
ETA: I tried going ginger/ strawberry blonde in younger years but was too olive skinned and dark-haired to carry it off. Dyeing the eyebrows, too, didn't help as I looked like one of the 'Children of the Corn'. Close friends and outspoken aunts told me I looked a twit.
ETA: I tried going ginger/ strawberry blonde in younger years but was too olive skinned and dark-haired to carry it off. Dyeing the eyebrows, too, didn't help as I looked like one of the 'Children of the Corn'. Close friends and outspoken aunts told me I looked a twit.
Oh wow my dads left handed and he’s an absolute boffended🥲🥲 I had a dinner lady in school she was really old and used to try force me to be right handed and said I was witch and would grown up to be evil
is this a thing lol
I spent the all of my 20's and late teens as a dyed ginger. I had plenty of people fooled into thinking it was natural but sadly the upkeep was just too much for me, I am now a blonde.... I definitely think red heads have more fun
It's fair to say I am jealous of all ye ginger/kissed by fire b*tches
If LL was ginger would she look more guilty ?
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Ffs I’m also left handed…..
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Aah now that’s better! Another intelligent sex goddess hereI’ll have you know that being left handed is actually a sign of intelligence, and being great in bed
Absolutely!If LL was ginger would she look more guilty ?
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I was victim of this in the early 2000’s …. Ginger in a bottle #TheyLied
Victim here too and don’t feel I ever fully recovered
I wondered if Tiny boy, may have been Child C, he was only 800g and would have been tiny even for a NNU baby. It just seems that if you were a multiple in NNU back then and your sibling had just collapsed you would be having a medical drama on Letby's next shift. Feel so sorry for the triplets parents as by that point a pattern was emerging and based on what had happened with the twin's once Baby O had died his brothers where sitting ducks.
Not been on for a couple of weeks. I've not been too well mentally, so had to come away.
What days did they say court was on this week? Does anyone remember?
What days did they say court was on this week? Does anyone remember?
Absolutely. And there are many siblings who have had an identical upbringing, and yet chose completely different paths in life. Whilst I agree that looking at past events can shed light on some of our behaviour in the present, I do not think that they are always a reliable indicator of how we will act in future. As human beings, we are cognitively very complex. Some would even argue that we have "free will" or "agency" -- that we have some control over environmental factors that enable us to make ethical choices. I'm not denying that factors in our past and environment do matter, but I think of them more as "enabling conditions" rather than "causes".
If we look at family relationships are "causes", then we erase "agency", and in doing so, we deny responsibility for our actions. So, to some extent at least, I believe that -- unlike a ball that once kicked (cause), can't change course (effect) -- we as human beings have the ability (cognitively) as rational beings to stop, think of our options, evaluate their consequences, and choose accordingly. I'm not talking about people who are biologically determined (e.g. someone with Tourettes or someone clinically insane). I'm just talking about the rest of us who have some control over our own thoughts and freedom to choose our actions. And your own experience, Tofino, is evidence that people can overcome adversity, rather than be at their mercy without choice.
LL seems to me, no matter her background, not to fit into the category of someone who is incapable of making choices. She's made plenty of them, and the court has decided she's (cognitively and mentally) fit to stand trial. Even her lawyer hasn't argued otherwise. It find it very improbably that she's had some serious mentally incapacitating condition that has gone undetected all this time; if there were, her lawyer would've said she'd not fit to plead. So, whether guilty or innocent (and I'm in camp G), whatever events took place in her past, interesting as they may be, these were not "causes" of what she did; she was not biologically determined to do what she did. She's morally and legally responsible for her actions.
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The trouble with saying "some people are born evil" is that it then makes us unable to hold them legally or morally responsible for what they do (like someone born with a particular hair, skin or eye colour, etc. Or someone who has genetically inherited a disease. It's not their choice; these are things beyond their control).
Some people are indeed born disturbed, but then we can't in those cases call what they do "evil" because it's not their fault how they were born, and what they did as a consequence. On the other hand, some people, though not born evil, "become" evil by doing "evil things". Those are the people who had control over what they did, and as a result, we can hold responsible for it.
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Is the photo used for the American podcast actually Lucy Letby? If so she looks different 
I can’t remember the days it’s on but I hope you’re ok
Hope you continue to feel better
xall I remember is it isn’t on today but back Tuesday. Think there is potentially one other day they’re off this week too though.
This thread is starting to remind me of all the Gingers in Catherine Tate…
They said at the time it would go on for about 6 months
No, it’s completely wrong which makes me distrustful of the whole thing tbh.Is the photo used for the American podcast actually Lucy Letby? If so she looks different
No it’s just a mock up of the original image of her. They probably weren’t allowed to use her image or something. It’s not that they’ve got it wrong and picked the wrong person, they will have googled her several times to get all the info from the case so impossible not to have seen the real image of Letby a million times. I’ve only listened to a few. It’s not groundbreaking stuff but so far a good quick refresher of everything she’s accused. Even I’m quick to forget sometimes the magnitude of it allIs the photo used for the American podcast actually Lucy Letby? If so she looks different
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