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I’m in Scotland too. Let’s just hop on the train together, why not. Wee day out!
Maybe her reaction to his name being confirmed was because he is married and it's a big secret? Maybe she really cared about him and worried that the involvement in this case would damage his family/reputation. Doesn't seem that he had any dirt on her which was one of the initial theories.
I think she had hoped he’d stay by his word and support her in this trial. And now he’s a prosecution witness. Of course she’s distressed
I’m a cynic, and did wonder initially if he was married. Then as the texts went on, I thought ‘Oh no, he’s genuinely into her’ and sounded young.
Now… 100% he was married during all of this (whether he is or not now) and that’s why he is indeed ‘Dr Noname’.
Seen it all before. Tale as old as time.
Ps. I haven’t commented on these threads for ages, but still been following. I’ve genuinely been doing this
the past few days with what’s come to light.
Dr Noname - you were wanting your ego stroked, and possibly your leg over. How that has spectacularly back fired for you.
Now… 100% he was married during all of this (whether he is or not now) and that’s why he is indeed ‘Dr Noname’.
Seen it all before. Tale as old as time.
Ps. I haven’t commented on these threads for ages, but still been following. I’ve genuinely been doing this
the past few days with what’s come to light. Dr Noname - you were wanting your ego stroked, and possibly your leg over. How that has spectacularly back fired for you.
I just cannot see this at all. I can't imagine her having any empathy towards his family or his reputation. I think its all about her. He was just another pawn in her game.
I am clearly no expert at all but I can't imagine that someone who consistently murders babies can have any normal feelings about anything or anyone.
Come in to my parlour said the spider to the fly.
I think she’s crying because ultimately she hasn’t won, he’s turned on her.
I wonder if the press would continuously describe it as a friendship..”flirty friendship” is as far as it’s ever got in terms of description, if there was any evidence that it was anything different or more (not denying that possibly both of them would have been happy for it to go there). If it was a romantic relationship at any level then the defence could claim it means she’s more “normal” and the prosecution could say she’s of bad character for having a relationship with a married man (although I don’t see how/why it’s relevant when you’re a baby murderer tbf). I just feel there’s been a very marked change in the press who repeatedly describe it as a friendship and I am yet to see anything to suggest it wasn’t. Her reaction absolutely can’t be explained from what we’ve seen so far… bonkers!
I think its easier to think of evil people this way, but they can absolutely have feelings of love and affection towards others, who knows if it's the same way we feel it but even Hitler loved his mother. Feeling bad for Dr Sleeze doesn't make her any less horrendous if she's done this, but people aren't that black and white.
I reckon it's that he's turned on her, if I was texting a fella for a few months/couple of years and he's later gone on to grass on me about something I'd be fuming - so if she loved him, even if unrequited, it's definitely not a reach to think she'd be devastated, about him giving evidence against her on multiple murder charges.
Just goes more against her imo, no reaction to murdered new borns, but cries and tries to run away over a fella slagging her off though.
Has he grassed her though? He’s been cited as a prosecution witness in a murder trial, he probably didn’t have a whole lot of choice in the matter. I did wonder if it was feelings of regret almost, like she’d never have the life she thought maybe with him
Oh absolutely. I'll be the first to admit I'm a very black and white thinker, I drive my family crazy
It is easier to think of her this way, you're right, it distances her from me. I will never understand her, I'll read the books when they come out but in my head and heart I just see her as pure evil. I envisage a swinging brick in her chest.
Her reaction to him was really melodramatic considering the length of time it's been since her supposed relationship with him. I mean it's been over 6 years since then and it's not looking as if it was anything more than what we're seeing, a flirty friendship. The reaction doesn't match the situation and it felt very fake, almost as if that's how she thought she should react.
I guess we will never know what has really gone on with Dr Nonamenowifenoballsnoscruples but I'm really interested to see if their friendship ended when she was taken off the ward or if it continued? If it went further than what we've seen. It's intriguing but has no relevance in the case so we will probably never know.
Wait WHAT? I missed this, did he do that??
Exactly - he would of had no choice at all.
No, it was her colleague joking with LL for being flirty with the doc. LL said nothing was going on that he was just a friend or something along those lines.Wait WHAT? I missed this, did he do that??
ETA: my phone autocorrected “doc” to “fox” and I’m wheezing.
She said “certainly don’t fancy him” obvs she could be saying that cos the opposite is true but I get the impression it’s funny and a bit of a joke between her and the other nurse because he’s prob a bit of a minger/old/married or all of those things
Ah I was going to ask this before, do people get called to be witnesses even if the don't want to?
Would the press be able to suggest further though? As more revealing t(s)ext haven’t being presented in court.
On the flip side, more suggestive texts could potentially indicate deceit on the Dr’s part, not good for the credibility of a witness, and, like you say, what’s a dalliance in comparison to a baby murdering? And really, how relevant is it? Ofc we’d all like to know though, damn those pesky reporting restrictions, can just imagine the Sun’s headlines.
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They do, and as he was there for some of the deaths/involved in the care of some of the babies, it seems right that he would be called to give evidence. Especially given his friendship with the defendant.
I think if it was factual and had been heard in the courtroom that they were in a relationship then it would be reported so
but maybe it’s not been brought in as evidence from either side but I’d have thought it would be fairly relevant if he was a former partner. I would have thought factually it might say their messages continued but aren’t relevant rather than specify “social and work related” I guess they wouldn’t say “their messages were then cockington pics and shower dildo related” I just don’t get any sense they were hot and steamy- baby deaths and his own kids just seem like the ultimate passion kill. Just seems like he’s getting pleasure from being mr cringe “promise me won’t you” and she’s enjoying the sympathy and attention. Icky AF either way.
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