Lucy Letby Case #24

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I think he was rotational as well because he mentions in a text message about "if he's left the Trust" so he may not have been privy to what the consultants were thinking and the action they were trying to take. Things were being discussed in Consultant meetings and he probably wasn't in attendance. This was in June, rotation probably takes place August/September. Depending on the Trust so he may not have been there for a lot longer.
agree. I think he lived in the hospital accommodation where the other doctors she had been friendly with had, before she moved.
 
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If it was a case of she loved the chaos and NICU was too slow for her why didn’t she go and work on a different type of ward like a&e trauma or something
Maybe less opportunity to create chaos there as already emergency medical care. Maybe she liked the vulnerability of the babies.
 
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I went down a rabbit hole
( dear god if I am apprehended will yous all confirm I had these pics for here 😂😳)

I’ve found lots of pics of her and her friends I don’t believe seen in the media, they went on a girls holiday to Greece… so many of the pics she’s centre and pulling faces … I am awaiting a lot of story’s to come forward about her, feeling the odd vibes from the pics.
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She reminds me so much of my friends cuntinlaw same hungdog face absolute minger
 
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Has court already finished for the day or is it just bad reporting? They always seem to do really short days compared to other trials
 
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So after Q she was placed onto clerical duties for 2 years before being arrested in 2018. Is that right? What would that be? Admin? And I wonder what they told her the reason was and if she just accepted it? I’m not sure I’d tolerate being placed into clerical duties for 2 yrs! Do you think we’ll get that detail or will it not be considered relevant to the trial?

Actually thinking about it they must have raised it as a competency issue right, because at this point they weren’t thinking intentional harm and murder.
 
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Thanks for answering my question - I don't live in the U.K. I didn't know a witness could stop the press from reporting their name because it would upset their family and effect their career. Very interesting, I hope if I ever do anything stupid I'm in the U.K!
he will have been reported by the trust and the investigators to the GMC for breaching social media policy by discussing patients without protecting anonymity on a social media platform. He will have been disciplined as they see fit, we might not know what effect that has had on his career.
the assumptions and character assassination based on an unknown private life other than he was friends with someone who has duped tens of people over a much longer time period is tedious and unnecessary. He was in the wrong by discussing names with her on social media messaging, and I do hope that has been dealt with. If they had an affair then yes it’s morally disgusting but that’s his morals and his future, nothing to do with the justice for the babies and deserved consequence/punishment for LL imo.
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So after Q she was placed onto clerical duties for 2 years before being arrested in 2018. Is that right? What would that be? Admin? And I wonder what they told her the reason was and if she just accepted it? I’m not sure I’d tolerate being placed into clerical duties for 2 yrs! Do you think we’ll get that detail or will it not be considered relevant to the trial?
it’ll all come out after the verdict - as with a lot of other ‘between the lines’ info I hope!
 
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It happens, somehow. The best mate nurse of Charles Cullen had no idea whatsoever what he was up to.
There was a couple that were ferocious supporters of Shipman, he was a wonderful doctor, they shouted at the press to leave and were very vocal that it was all lies and absurd. Turns out Shipman had murdered the husband’s Mother and Father. Many HCSK offend for years before people notice a pattern. Clearly there were people linking her because they noticed her being involved with all the unexpected and unexplainable events but Letby being normal/seemingly nice (I do think we’ve heard plenty of people having run ins with her or getting bad vibes too) must have stood in the way of them feeling it could be purposeful harm. Also I don’t believe this relationship with Noname went any further than obsessive texting but he is a man and probably would have been quite happy if it did, so him telling her she’s incredible and amazing isn’t a surprise. She has a constant source of attention in him.
Dan’s write up
 
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If I recall correctly I think she was going to drive the car home at the end of her shift but start of his? And he was going to collect next day at the end of his shift. So I don’t think a partner would notice that.

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R is Dr Noname.

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Not quite sure he realised what he was offering…
Wonder if they both kept their promises!!

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I can’t imagine how much this would have hurt the parents hearing this. It’s really stuck with me. It’s not the babies 😢


R: No more doubt - it's not you, it's the babies.
I got the feeling earlier on, that that’s exactly what she wanted and why she latched on to Dr Noballs. Someone from the hierarchy to have her back when it all inevitably came out. Now I’m thinking that’s why the dramatics and tears when he took the stand for the first time.
 
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It's been bugging me for ages and I've had to go on an internet deep dive to find the photo of the man who's face always springs to mind when I think of Dr Noballs Sorry to extinguish any remaining fantasies...
 

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It's been bugging me for ages and I've had to go on an internet deep dive to find the photo of the man who's face always springs to mind when I think of Dr Noballs Sorry to extinguish any remaining fantasies...
Yes yes yes.

Oh what was this guy on?
 
There was a couple that were ferocious supporters of Shipman, he was a wonderful doctor, they shouted at the press to leave and were very vocal that it was all lies and absurd. Turns out Shipman had murdered the husband’s Mother and Father. Many HCSK offend for years before people notice a pattern. Clearly there were people linking her because they noticed her being involved with all the unexpected and unexplainable events but Letby being normal/seemingly nice (I do think we’ve heard plenty of people having run ins with her or getting bad vibes too) must have stood in the way of them feeling it could be purposeful harm. Also I don’t believe this relationship with Noname went any further than obsessive texting but he is a man and probably would have been quite happy if it did, so him telling her she’s incredible and amazing isn’t a surprise. She has a constant source of attention in him.
Dan’s write up
thanks for this love. This part of the article is damning to me in terms of his perception of her care on the shop floor at that time compared to what he now knows about her/stepped forward as a prosecution witness. There is enough evidence to change his opinion 180 from how it was and that will be evidence we probably haven’t heard a lot of yet 😔

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thanks for this love. This part of the article is damning to me in terms of his perception of her care on the shop floor at that time compared to what he now knows about her/stepped forward as a prosecution witness. There is enough evidence to change his opinion 180 from how it was and that will be evidence we probably haven’t heard a lot of yet 😔

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Yes very odd to me too! You are amazing and so brilliant and flawless and impeccable…..BUT if you’re ever in the tit let me know 🤔🤨
Desperate to hear from (the lovely) Dr Gibbs and Dr SB about what they did after baby Q.
 
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Some videos of BM and Prof Owen Arthurs arriving in court (also has Sally Linsey and Lucy’s parents at the end)


I wanted to find a video of Ben speaking but no luck so far
I ont know how I feel about the parents I really don’t . After hearing everything they must know now that she’s guilty . How are they still supporting her I just don’t understand . Maybe they are waiting for a verdict but they must know now that it’s not looking good for her .

personally I just couldn’t support or go a trial if my child did those evil acts
 
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GET OFF TATTLE AND GO NOW! 🤣🤣🤣 (joking haha).
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I made it but only for a couple of hours, and I’m 💯 going back!

As the prosecution were delivering the start of the evidence for Child P, there was 400+ slides to go through, honestly cannot imagine how the jury have dealt with that for every single case. It was heavy. They have to go through all the swipe ins and outs from the shifts, all the medical stuff, prescribed meds, medical notes etc. so that took up a lot of the time. I understand why they do it but wow just so much info.

Even just hearing the children’s names made it all feel a lot more real as well. I think one of the most eye opening things was the amount of messages between LL and Dr no name. Obvs I now know his name and can see from google that he does still work in that area, so that’s potentially why he didn’t want to be named? They read out the messages that are relevant and hearing ‘it’s not you it’s the babies’ when LL was supposedly questioning what could poss be happening just made me feel cold, and yet another reason he won’t want to be named. He really did go out of his way to reassure her ALOT that she had done everything she could. In between the slides we did get glimpses of LL but I’d defo like to see her in abit more detail, and think if we get to know when the police interviews will be shown I will go back for those. Also as someone else mentioned the use of ‘lol’ when talking about the shift where so much had happened didn’t feel right at all. I don’t feel I got a true picture only being there for a short time, but I did see that she spends a heck of a lot of time on whatsapp&facebook messenger before and after events. If I remember more I’ll write it down these are just my first thoughts now ive got home! Gutted I missed people taking the stand! Defo going back!…
 
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I ont know how I feel about the parents I really don’t . After hearing everything they must know now that she’s guilty . How are they still supporting her I just don’t understand . Maybe they are waiting for a verdict but they must know now that it’s not looking good for her .

personally I just couldn’t support or go a trial if my child did those evil acts
I’d support my child no matter what. That wouldn’t mean I would support what they did. Some people are different aren’t they.
 
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