Main takeaways for me today:
*the amount and distance of vomit
![Face with open mouth :open_mouth: 😮](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/1f62e.png)
*baby G was confirmed as being ivf baby (podcast), that’s 2 so far that we know for sure. What kind of monster knows the pain and effort involved for parents going through ivf, to then go after their baby (repeatedly)
![Disappointed face :disappointed: 😞](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/1f61e.png)
*the skill of the medical staff (minus LL) saved baby G
*the medical staff (minus LL) were a caring bunch that cared deeply about babies (from not sleeping/worrying/to making banners and one member of staff providing a cake for milestones)
*the medical staff had never seen these things before or since
*another baby who’s sudden deterioration couldn’t have been explained by accident or innocently
*LL having interaction with yet another baby just before a very sudden and unexpected collapse
*baby G was attacked on the last of LL’s 4 nightshifts which were her first since F (podcast)
what a coincidence that is ![Thinking face :thinking: 🤔](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/1f914.png)
*LL coming into the unit on night off, visited G and then txt colleague with some of babies obs from chart (why)
*more extremely unusual bleeding behind vocal cords (this has already been seen in 3 babies and is going to be seen repeatedly)
*medical experts showing LL to be a liar
*another baby BM has tried to write off just for being premature
*baby G despite being premature (was actually born even before baby A (podcast) which is mind blowing to me) was certainly a little fighter, when hearing about how her birth happened and all that followed. The fact she survived not only milk but likely air too (and why she was prob so unstable afterwards) shows what a little fighter she was
*her birth story in another hospital shows that there are problems/lack of care in other hospitals at certain times
*the staff had no idea what they were up against and that it was actually one of their own that they were working against, an unknown evil force, so therefore would not understand why these “odd” things kept happening or how to stop
*two internal investigations could not show what was responsible for these collapses, that nothing natural should be causing the deaths/collapses. And again multiple medics at the hospital and the experts in court have repeatedly said natural explanations would not make sense, these are sudden and unexpected, regardless of the fact these were tiny babies.
**Please feel free to add any other major points from today cos I’ve probably missed a Few
I’m lucky that both my babies were term, so I haven’t ever had a wee preemie and been through all that comes with it, but my friend has, and some on here have. And for me it’s getting so frustrating when these babies are being written off when they were doing so well and getting so much stronger despite the odds. I can only imagine how frustrating it is for parents of wee preemies having to listen to that suggestion. After reading today, and last Monday and listening to podcast it’s so clear that G was such a wee fighter and had been doing so well. The fact her parents thought once she got to 100 days they could finally relax
![Disappointed face :disappointed: 😞](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/1f61e.png)
until the evil LL got her hands on her. It’s so so sad that all these babies were doing so well, and would have been going home with their families until they had the unfortunate fate (prosecution’ words) of coming into contact with LL
I also thought these were a great few lines from BM today:
Mr Myers: "We don't know [the quantity of vomit as it was not measured]."
Dr E: "No, but it's a lot of vomit."
BM: "We don't know how much, do we?"
Dr E: "It was...an awful lot of vomit."
To me they are typical BM pantomime badie with his actual nonsense wording
I think the hospital obviously had many failings, nobody is denying that. But not one nurse, doctor, consultant etc would have suspected one of their own was causing harm to all these babies. For a lot of them they’re seeing these events as a one off unexplained event. They’re not present for all of the collapses, they’re not seeing the similarities because they can’t and they’re not all seeing LL’s constant presence at all of these events. A look through the notes for each collapse doesn’t even make it clear that she was the connection because she was often not the designated nurse for these babies. It’s only when you can step back and look at it all laid out that the dots start joining up. That’s why the police investigation lead to LL.
None of her colleagues would have even considered she was to blame at the stage we’re currently at (Baby G) because it’s unthinkable somebody would be doing all of this intentionally.
Could not have worded it better myself. Excellent post
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In all these types of crimes, medics dealing with these victims, try to make things a best fit medically at the time, because that is literally their job. They don’t expect a hospital to be a crime scene. However insane these crimes feel or how people aren’t stopped (Shipman doc is incredible to get a sense of this) has absolutely no relation at all to whether a crime took place. They are questions for after the trial and will certainly be asked I’m sure.
Fantastic point, there’s zero correlation between them not knowing it was LL at the time, and her murdering/harming all these babies. They would never have realised she was the common denominator at that time. They are always going to look for medical explanations rather than a murderer on the ward hiding in plain sight